Xenodolf Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Not all wars are finished, but here are some numbers for the community to ponder: Money stolen through attacks: Socialist International: $187,870.40 Terminus Est: $4,193,829.18 Infrastructure lost through attacks: Socialist International: 3719.5, Estimated Value (calculated at the cost of 1 infra at 750): $14,966,300.93 (Just about $119.75 real US dollars lost.) Terminus Est: 49.5, Estimated Value (same calc as above): $199,175.13 (Just about $1.60 real US dollars lost) Military Losses: Socialist International: 332,813 Soldiers, 1,338 Tanks, 87 Aircraft, 2 ships Estimated value lost (taking average cost of each resource at 12:00 Server time): $3,684,824 Terminus Est: 139,305 Soldiers, 864 Tanks, 25 Aircraft, 0 Ships. Estimated value lost (same as above): $1,821,628 Total Monetary Losses Socialist International: $22,844,954.11 ($182.76 US Dollars) Terminus Est: $2,208,673.53 ($17.67 US Dollars) Hope everyone has a great night! EDIT: Edited the real US Dollars Lost on the Infrastructure. The US Dollars value is not an actual value. I simply divided the damages by 3,750,000 and then multiplied that number by 30 to get these values. The US Dollar value is not of actual value?! really brah, then why put it nobody cares about how much real money you made up to think we lost in a Internet game kid. - Anarkhist leader of the Svøbødnäyä Tęrritøriyä Groznyj Grad - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisha Greyjoy Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Money is money, and as far as I know, donations are the only way dollars turn into game money, so I think its fair to reference. Still, don't get too excited about doing damage roughly equal to one guy having a night of drinking in an upscale bar. Duke of House Greyjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Please, lord Hereno, do show us what is so hilarious about these logs.He has no reason, if he did he would say why to try and show that he's smarter. He's trying to show that he doesn't care about the logs and take attention away from the fact that he was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iljohn Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Though that guy in the upscale bar can only go 1 a month (^。^)y-.。o○ (-。-)y-゜゜゜ this is how i make my cloud http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag291/petgangster/efb30519-f381-4330-a62b-11db0d2a058b_zpscilyk2rj.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenodolf Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Money is money, and as far as I know, donations are the only way dollars turn into game money, so I think its fair to reference. Still, don't get too excited about doing damage roughly equal to one guy having a night of drinking in an upscale bar. so now game money and real moeny are the same , please just help me figure out how its ' fair to reference ' game money with real money ? Edited November 10, 2014 by Xenodolf - Anarkhist leader of the Svøbødnäyä Tęrritøriyä Groznyj Grad - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grillick Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 As soon as I can buy back a donation with in-game money, I'll consider the two fungible. 1 "It's hard to be a team player when you're omnipotent." - Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 As soon as I can buy back a donation with in-game money, I'll consider the two fungible. this needs to happen also i'd like my infra back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adama Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 so now game money and real moeny are the same , please just help me figure out how its ' fair to reference ' game money with real money ? The reference is that your alliance is getting demolished by an 8 man attack force. If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a roll. There is one you will follow. One who is the shining star, and he will lead you to beautiful places in the search of his own vanity. And when there is no more vanity to be found, he will leave you in darkness, as a fading memory of his own creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenodolf Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) The reference is that your alliance is getting demolished by an 8 man attack force. was it now ? terrible reference then. and as i pointed out before here comes the slide-line cheerleading squad rooting harder now how is saying we spent / lost real money referring to us losing a war, when in actually nobodies lost anything but troops and infa all brought with 'real' game money... edit - of course someone commenting has actually spent real money Edited November 10, 2014 by Xenodolf - Anarkhist leader of the Svøbødnäyä Tęrritøriyä Groznyj Grad - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAI-40 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 was it now ? terrible reference then. and as i pointed out before here comes the slide-line cheerleading squad rooting harder now how is saying we spent / lost real money referring to us losing a war, when in actually nobodies lost anything but troops and infa all brought with 'real' game money... edit - of course someone commenting has actually spent real money I think the basic idea is that, if you wanted to buy all of that back with Donations, that is what it would cost you. The game does at times involve real world money, I think it's perfectly fair to include. Don't latch onto that though, you have to acknowledge the fact that your alliance hasn't even made a real impact in the war, it's just taken a beating and at the same time proved that it holds no political weight. It's also shown that Hereno couldn't give less of a shit about his Alliance or his members, which begs to question why anyone would stand behind him, or an Alliance that doesn't care about them. 1 "They're turning kids into slaves just to make cheaper sneakers. But what's the real cost? ‘Cause the sneakers don't seem that much cheaper. Why are we still paying so much for sneakers when you got them made by little slave kids? What are your overheads?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I think i would wait 30 days till nation delete, start anew, and better tell no one who i am. Will you ever offer/accept peace TEst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiney Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 I think i would wait 30 days till nation delete, start anew, and better tell no one who i am. Will you ever offer/accept peace TEst? We have offered the same peace terms to any member of SI that has come to us asking for peace, and we have stated it a number of times here. a. Remove your leader from power and the alliance or b. leave the alliance and publically denounce your leader. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iljohn Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 so you guys must really hate there leader (^。^)y-.。o○ (-。-)y-゜゜゜ this is how i make my cloud http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag291/petgangster/efb30519-f381-4330-a62b-11db0d2a058b_zpscilyk2rj.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 We have offered the same peace terms to any member of SI that has come to us asking for peace, and we have stated it a number of times here. a. Remove your leader from power and the alliance or b. leave the alliance and publically denounce your leader. I meant peace with Hereno, ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I meant peace with Hereno, ever? If you're trying to negotiate on Hereno's behalf, I recommend private channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenodolf Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I think the basic idea is that, if you wanted to buy all of that back with Donations, that is what it would cost you. The game does at times involve real world money, I think it's perfectly fair to include. Don't latch onto that though, you have to acknowledge the fact that your alliance hasn't even made a real impact in the war, it's just taken a beating and at the same time proved that it holds no political weight. It's also shown that Hereno couldn't give less of a !@#$ about his Alliance or his members, which begs to question why anyone would stand behind him, or an Alliance that doesn't care about them. okay - Anarkhist leader of the Svøbødnäyä Tęrritøriyä Groznyj Grad - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Placentica Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I meant peace with Hereno, ever? No you meant peace for SI, and they answered you. Hello! If you don't like this post please go here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=usercp&tab=core&area=ignoredusers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I do not see any reason for DEIC to be involved in the peace settlement as I am not aware of any request from either side that they need a third party meditator involvement at all. And I believe both SI and Test is more than capable of solving this without third party involvement and even then we need a credible and reputable third party - preferably someone who are neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodo Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I do not see any reason for DEIC to be involved in the peace settlement as I am not aware of any request from either side that they need a third party meditator involvement at all. And I believe both SI and Test is more than capable of solving this without third party involvement and even then we need a credible and reputable third party - preferably someone who are neutral.Oh, OH! ME, PICK ME. I'M NOT IN TEST AND TOTALLY NEUTRAL. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisha Greyjoy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I really expected SI to put up a fight. The overwhelming one-sidedness has me admiring Terminus Est quite a bit. 1 Duke of House Greyjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxxikation Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 It's easy, Xenodolf. $30 buys $3,750,000 in game. Using that conversion rate the estestimated damages are up over $180 now. Since donations are pretty commonplace, I thought it would be interesting to the community. Trust me, I had a lot of fun reading the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatnate Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Although it seems overvalued for a non-fungible good, the real dollar value stats are certainly more entertaining than in game money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenodolf Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) It's easy, Xenodolf. $30 buys $3,750,000 in game. Using that conversion rate the estestimated damages are up over $180 now. Since donations are pretty commonplace, I thought it would be interesting to the community. Trust me, I had a lot of fun reading the numbers. i suppose you're making ''estestimates'' would be interesting if like i said prior anyone paid for donations, but go ahead by all means.. so in short you made us lose ' 180$ ' without making us lose 180$ right just brag on how you're winning no need to start using point less ''estestimates'' sheesh I really expected SI to put up a fight. The overwhelming one-sidedness has me admiring Terminus Est quite a bit. sorry to have let down the masses' but sometimes things don't workout yunno.. Edited November 11, 2014 by Xenodolf - Anarkhist leader of the Svøbødnäyä Tęrritøriyä Groznyj Grad - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) i suppose you're making ''estestimates'' would be interesting if like i said prior anyone paid for donations, but go ahead by all means.. so in short you made us lose ' 180$ ' without making us lose 180$ right just brag on how you're winning no need to start using point less ''estestimates'' sheesh sorry to have let down the masses' but sometimes things don't workout yunno.. Is all of SI as dense as you and Hereno or do the others just not realize the retarded !@#$ you say? It's a stat, a simple comparison to show what it would cost if you rebuilt using donations. It's not a huge deal. If you want to get your panties in a bunch over it just ignore the dollar amounts and realize that they're also kicking your !@#$ in in-game amounts as well. Edited November 11, 2014 by Shellhound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toxxikation Posted November 11, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2014 All of our interactions with them seem to be this way, Shellhound. As for you, Xenodolf, the community seems entertained by them, so I'll continue providing them. Maybe I'll put it in "Number of Pokémon Cards that could be purchased" so it'll be easier for you to understand. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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