i provided the logs that set off the powderkeg. who are you in all of this?

[Xenodolf]

Not all wars are finished, but here are some numbers for the community to ponder:

 

Money stolen through attacks:

Socialist International: $187,870.40

Terminus Est: $4,193,829.18

Infrastructure lost through attacks:

Socialist International: 3719.5, Estimated Value (calculated at the cost of 1 infra at 750): $14,966,300.93 (Just about $119.75 real US dollars lost.)

Terminus Est: 49.5, Estimated Value (same calc as above): $199,175.13 (Just about $1.60 real US dollars lost)

Military Losses:

Socialist International: 332,813 Soldiers, 1,338 Tanks, 87 Aircraft, 2 ships Estimated value lost (taking average cost of each resource at 12:00 Server time): $3,684,824

Terminus Est: 139,305 Soldiers, 864 Tanks, 25 Aircraft, 0 Ships. Estimated value lost (same as above): $1,821,628

Total Monetary Losses

Socialist International: $22,844,954.11 ($182.76 US Dollars)

Terminus Est: $2,208,673.53 ($17.67 US Dollars)

 

Hope everyone has a great night!

 

EDIT: Edited the real US Dollars Lost on the Infrastructure. The US Dollars value is not an actual value. I simply divided the damages by 3,750,000 and then multiplied that number by 30 to get these values.

 

   The US Dollar value is not of actual value?! really brah, then why put it    nobody cares about how much real money you made up to think we lost in a Internet game kid.   

[Aisha Greyjoy]

Money is money, and as far as I know, donations are the only way dollars turn into game money, so I think its fair to reference.  Still, don't get too excited about doing damage roughly equal to one guy having a night of drinking in an upscale bar.

[Shellhound]

Please, lord Hereno, do show us what is so hilarious about these logs.

He has no reason, if he did he would say why to try and show that he's smarter. He's trying to show that he doesn't care about the logs and take attention away from the fact that he was wrong.

[iljohn]

Though that guy in the upscale bar can only go 1 a month

[Xenodolf]

Money is money, and as far as I know, donations are the only way dollars turn into game money, so I think its fair to reference.  Still, don't get too excited about doing damage roughly equal to one guy having a night of drinking in an upscale bar.

so now game money and real moeny are the same    , please just help me figure out how its ' fair to reference ' game money with real money ?

Edited November 10, 2014 by Xenodolf

[Grillick]

As soon as I can buy back a donation with in-game money, I'll consider the two fungible.

[Hereno]

As soon as I can buy back a donation with in-game money, I'll consider the two fungible.

this needs to happen

 

also i'd like my infra back

[Adama]

so now game money and real moeny are the same    , please just help me figure out how its ' fair to reference ' game money with real money ?

The reference is that your alliance is getting demolished by an 8 man attack force.

[Xenodolf]

The reference is that your alliance is getting demolished by an 8 man attack force.

was it now ? terrible reference then. and as i pointed out before here comes the slide-line cheerleading squad rooting harder now   how is saying we spent / lost real money referring to us losing a war, when in actually nobodies lost anything but troops and infa all brought with 'real' game money... 

 

edit - of course someone commenting has actually spent real money 

Edited November 10, 2014 by Xenodolf

[SAI-40]

was it now ? terrible reference then. and as i pointed out before here comes the slide-line cheerleading squad rooting harder now how is saying we spent / lost real money referring to us losing a war, when in actually nobodies lost anything but troops and infa all brought with 'real' game money...

 

edit - of course someone commenting has actually spent real money

I think the basic idea is that, if you wanted to buy all of that back with Donations, that is what it would cost you. The game does at times involve real world money, I think it's perfectly fair to include. Don't latch onto that though, you have to acknowledge the fact that your alliance hasn't even made a real impact in the war, it's just taken a beating and at the same time proved that it holds no political weight. It's also shown that Hereno couldn't give less of a shit about his Alliance or his members, which begs to question why anyone would stand behind him, or an Alliance that doesn't care about them.

[Odin]

I think i would wait 30 days till nation delete, start anew, and better tell no one who i am.

   

 

Will you ever offer/accept peace TEst? 

[Phiney]

I think i would wait 30 days till nation delete, start anew, and better tell no one who i am.

   

 

Will you ever offer/accept peace TEst? 

 

We have offered the same peace terms to any member of SI that has come to us asking for peace, and we have stated it a number of times here. a. Remove your leader from power and the alliance or b. leave the alliance and publically denounce your leader.

[iljohn]

so you guys must really hate there leader

[Odin]

We have offered the same peace terms to any member of SI that has come to us asking for peace, and we have stated it a number of times here. a. Remove your leader from power and the alliance or b. leave the alliance and publically denounce your leader.

 

I meant peace with Hereno, ever?

[Solomon]

I meant peace with Hereno, ever?

If you're trying to negotiate on Hereno's behalf, I recommend private channels.

[Xenodolf]

I think the basic idea is that, if you wanted to buy all of that back with Donations, that is what it would cost you. The game does at times involve real world money, I think it's perfectly fair to include. Don't latch onto that though, you have to acknowledge the fact that your alliance hasn't even made a real impact in the war, it's just taken a beating and at the same time proved that it holds no political weight. It's also shown that Hereno couldn't give less of a !@#$ about his Alliance or his members, which begs to question why anyone would stand behind him, or an Alliance that doesn't care about them.

 

okay

[Placentica]

I meant peace with Hereno, ever?

No you meant peace for SI, and they answered you.

[Vincent]

I do not see any reason for DEIC to be involved in the peace settlement as I am not aware of any request from either side that they need a third party meditator involvement at all. And I believe both SI and Test is more than capable of solving this without third party involvement and even then we need a credible and reputable third party - preferably someone who are neutral.

[Jodo]

I do not see any reason for DEIC to be involved in the peace settlement as I am not aware of any request from either side that they need a third party meditator involvement at all. And I believe both SI and Test is more than capable of solving this without third party involvement and even then we need a credible and reputable third party - preferably someone who are neutral.

Oh, OH! ME, PICK ME. I'M NOT IN TEST AND TOTALLY NEUTRAL.

[Aisha Greyjoy]

I really expected SI to put up a fight.  The overwhelming one-sidedness has me admiring Terminus Est quite a bit. 

[Toxxikation]

It's easy, Xenodolf. $30 buys $3,750,000 in game. Using that conversion rate the estestimated damages are up over $180 now. Since donations are pretty commonplace, I thought it would be interesting to the community. Trust me, I had a lot of fun reading the numbers.

[Greatnate]

Although it seems overvalued for a non-fungible good, the real dollar value stats are certainly more entertaining than in game money.

[Xenodolf]

It's easy, Xenodolf. $30 buys $3,750,000 in game. Using that conversion rate the estestimated damages are up over $180 now. Since donations are pretty commonplace, I thought it would be interesting to the community. Trust me, I had a lot of fun reading the numbers.

i suppose you're making ''estestimates'' would be interesting if like i said prior anyone paid for donations, but go ahead by all means.. so in short you made us  lose ' 180$ ' without making us lose 180$  right just brag on how you're winning no need to start using point less ''estestimates'' sheesh 

 

 

I really expected SI to put up a fight.  The overwhelming one-sidedness has me admiring Terminus Est quite a bit. 

 

 

sorry to have let down the masses' but sometimes things don't workout yunno..

Edited November 11, 2014 by Xenodolf

[Shellhound]

i suppose you're making ''estestimates'' would be interesting if like i said prior anyone paid for donations, but go ahead by all means.. so in short you made us  lose ' 180$ ' without making us lose 180$  right just brag on how you're winning no need to start using point less ''estestimates'' sheesh 

 

 

 

 

sorry to have let down the masses' but sometimes things don't workout yunno..

Is all of SI as dense as you and Hereno or do the others just not realize the retarded !@#$ you say? It's a stat, a simple comparison to show what it would cost if you rebuilt using donations. It's not a huge deal. If you want to get your panties in a bunch over it just ignore the dollar amounts and realize that they're also kicking your !@#$ in in-game amounts as well.

Edited November 11, 2014 by Shellhound

[Toxxikation]

All of our interactions with them seem to be this way, Shellhound.

 

As for you, Xenodolf, the community seems entertained by them, so I'll continue providing them. Maybe I'll put it in "Number of Pokémon Cards that could be purchased" so it'll be easier for you to understand.