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Also Donald Trump lies about everything. Crime is down once Obama took office so are jobs. Apparently Mr. Gingrich thinks feelings are more accurate than facts.

Yes, there are less jobs since Obama took office.

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Feelings are easier to twist and manipulate than facts. Trump is nothing more than a fear monger. Sadly, he's accurately read the feelings of considerable portion of Americans.

 

And, Hillary is every bit as corrupt and conniving as she's painted. I hate her, don't get me wrong. But, at least she isn't a demagogue and a jackass. I'd rather vote for a professional crook than an incompetent joke.

 

But, I won't vote. I quit voting for far less cause than this current mess. This system and the majority are pathetic. I'm fully disgusted with it all and have little regard for anyone who has any faith in it. This is capitalism at its finest. The shitty end of the stick for all you cretins.

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Japan wtf. Also pls tell me how the FBI's statistics are corrupt. There is somwthing called interest on debt. Now I want trump to win so I can show you how badly you are wrong. See ya in Canada your political ideology won't really fit in their. What is the worst Hillary could do people open up YOUR DAMN EYES DO NOT GIVE INTO FEAR AMERICA IS STRONGER THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN THE WORLD MIGHT LOOK BAD BUT THAT IS WHAT THE MEDIA PAINTS IT TO BE. PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE. Vote for Hillary in November and save the country that we call home. And no unemployment is at an all time low Alexei. Look at facts.

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REASON WHY DONALD TRUMP CANNOT BE PRESIDENT

HAS BANKRUPT HIS COMPANIES 4 TIMES. WANTS TO RUN HIS COUNTRY LIKE HIS BUISNES A BANKRUPT COUNTRY IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

WANT TO BUILD A WALL TO KEEP MEXICANS OUT THIS IS NOT CONSERVATISM THIS IS THE COMPLETE AND TOTAL OPOSITE.

IS NOT A SELF MADE MAN UNLIKE BILL GATES, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG HE INHERITED TONS OF MONEY AND A BUISNES FOM HIS FATHER.

STIFS HIS WORKERS. WHEN ON OF HIS CASINOS WNT BANKRUPT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THINGS FOR HIS COMPANY WERE PAID PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR.

There is much more but it would take me hours to say it all but I will not.

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REASON WHY DONALD TRUMP CANNOT BE PRESIDENT

HAS BANKRUPT HIS COMPANIES 4 TIMES. WANTS TO RUN HIS COUNTRY LIKE HIS BUISNES A BANKRUPT COUNTRY IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

 

A handful of failed businesses to literally hundreds of successful ones. I hope you do everything 100% perfectly, because that's the same (unreasonable) standard you're holding Trump to.

 

Also: Holy quadruple post, Batman.

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REASON WHY DONALD TRUMP CANNOT BE PRESIDENT

HAS BANKRUPT HIS COMPANIES 4 TIMES. WANTS TO RUN HIS COUNTRY LIKE HIS BUISNES A BANKRUPT COUNTRY IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

WANT TO BUILD A WALL TO KEEP MEXICANS OUT THIS IS NOT CONSERVATISM THIS IS THE COMPLETE AND TOTAL OPOSITE.

IS NOT A SELF MADE MAN UNLIKE BILL GATES, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG HE INHERITED TONS OF MONEY AND A BUISNES FOM HIS FATHER.

STIFS HIS WORKERS. WHEN ON OF HIS CASINOS WNT BANKRUPT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THINGS FOR HIS COMPANY WERE PAID PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR.

There is much more but it would take me hours to say it all but I will not.

 

You always get like this when I utterly destroy what you've said, you start posting several posts of drivel.

 

No business man doesn't have a failure of some kind, most have many more successes as Trump does. Business failure isn't even necessarily down to the person in charge either. Market changes, economic crashes, and so on can make a business fail that normally wouldn't. As for bankrupting the country... America is already so in debt that it might be best if instead of constantly putting it off someone addresses it now.

 

??? Not Conservatism? Neither was the religious spin they added on it but thats seen as "real Conservative" in America. They're already coming up with names for Trump's brand, Trumpism I believe. Also please do explain how building a wall is against Conservatism? Is building roads against Conservatism too? Dams? Flood defenses? Where does the Conservative allowance on buildings start and end? 

 

Actually Trump gets a lot of stories of treating his workers well.

 

Why would the FBI fiddle with statics. It is sadening to me that no other people side with me on this.

That Donald cannot be president

 

Why would the FBI say that Clinton did wrong but that it was all perfectly fine and no charges should be levied against her? Government workers fiddle with statistics if that is what is demanded of them by the government. If Obama wants to appear more tough on illegals to calm people down so he can flood the country with less pushback, then the statistics get cooked. 

 

Conservatism is supposed to mean less government unlike Donald Trump who will bankrupt this country. Even if you hate Hillary vote for somone who is qualified for this job.

 

Hilarious. In regards to "qualifications" Trump is actually more experienced than Obama was (least "qualified" President ever) when he became President. Oddly this lack of qualifications never mattered then. Of course the whole matter of qualifications is nonsense as in reality all you need to fulfill is the nationality and age checks, but even if we play along it's all a load of bunk regardless.

 

Japan wtf. Also pls tell me how the FBI's statistics are corrupt. There is somwthing called interest on debt. Now I want trump to win so I can show you how badly you are wrong. See ya in Canada your political ideology won't really fit in their. What is the worst Hillary could do people open up YOUR DAMN EYES DO NOT GIVE INTO FEAR AMERICA IS STRONGER THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN THE WORLD MIGHT LOOK BAD BUT THAT IS WHAT THE MEDIA PAINTS IT TO BE. PLEASE MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE. Vote for Hillary in November and save the country that we call home. And no unemployment is at an all time low Alexei. Look at facts.

 

Badmouths the media as supposedly helping Trump... the media that has had Hillary's back this whole time and has been waging a war (that they've been losing, and a few of them have began bending the knee) against Trump.

 

As for the FEAR! What? Trump's message is that he will make America again, that it will win, that it will prosper. People like yourself (and Hillary herself) can only scream that Trump will make the sky fall and that America will be doomed. So pray tell who is trying to play on fear? 

 

Trump supporters in reality aren't afraid, they've never been braver in actuality. It's people like you who are in fear. I'd peg it to the fear being due to globalism being under serious threat as Anti-globalism forces in countries across the west gain more and more strength... but that seems too complicated for you. You just heard Trump is a bad man that says mean words and the funny man on TV you watch totally told you the sky would fall if Trump won. That about right?

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You always get like this when I utterly destroy what you've said, you start posting several posts of drivel.

 

No business man doesn't have a failure of some kind, most have many more successes as Trump does. Business failure isn't even necessarily down to the person in charge either. Market changes, economic crashes, and so on can make a business fail that normally wouldn't. As for bankrupting the country... America is already so in debt that it might be best if instead of constantly putting it off someone addresses it now.

 

??? Not Conservatism? Neither was the religious spin they added on it but thats seen as "real Conservative" in America. They're already coming up with names for Trump's brand, Trumpism I believe. Also please do explain how building a wall is against Conservatism? Is building roads against Conservatism too? Dams? Flood defenses? Where does the Conservative allowance on buildings start and end? 

 

Actually Trump gets a lot of stories of treating his workers well.

 

You think I liked the religious spin? that is part of what is destroying the Republican party. 

Building roads and bridges are actually useful too.

 

 

Why would the FBI say that Clinton did wrong but that it was all perfectly fine and no charges should be levied against her? Government workers fiddle with statistics if that is what is demanded of them by the government. If Obama wants to appear more tough on illegals to calm people down so he can flood the country with less pushback, then the statistics get cooked. 

 

 

Hilarious. In regards to "qualifications" Trump is actually more experienced than Obama was (least "qualified" President ever) when he became President. Oddly this lack of qualifications never mattered then. Of course the whole matter of qualifications is nonsense as in reality all you need to fulfill is the nationality and age checks, but even if we play along it's all a load of bunk regardless.

 

 

Please explain how President Obama is unqualified.

 

 

Badmouths the media as supposedly helping Trump... the media that has had Hillary's back this whole time and has been waging a war (that they've been losing, and a few of them have began bending the knee) against Trump.

 

As for the FEAR! What? Trump's message is that he will make America again, that it will win, that it will prosper. People like yourself (and Hillary herself) can only scream that Trump will make the sky fall and that America will be doomed. So pray tell who is trying to play on fear? 

 

Trump supporters in reality aren't afraid, they've never been braver in actuality. It's people like you who are in fear. I'd peg it to the fear being due to globalism being under serious threat as Anti-globalism forces in countries across the west gain more and more strength... but that seems too complicated for you. You just heard Trump is a bad man that says mean words and the funny man on TV you watch totally told you the sky would fall if Trump won. That about right?

Really? Fox news has had Hillary's back?

 

In reality Trump supporters ARE afraid. They are afraid that Mexicans are taking all their jobs. They are afraid that ISIS will kill them. They think all Muslims are evil. They are afraid that Hillary will take away their guns.  They are afraid of a women president.

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Rubbish, trade agreements such as NAFTA have destroyed the American working class.

NAFTA needs reform, no question about that.

 

So you think drug dealers and rapist should just be able to come across the border then?

OK...

 

We'll still be living in a Democratic system, stop eating the lies the democrat party feed you. Crooked Clinton and Pervy Bernie are not good sources of info! 

And a 70-year old orangutan who can't even spell WikiLeaks right is better?

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You think I liked the religious spin? that is part of what is destroying the Republican party. 

Building roads and bridges are actually useful too.

 

 

Please explain how President Obama is unqualified.

 

 

Really? Fox news has had Hillary's back?

 

In reality Trump supporters ARE afraid. They are afraid that Mexicans are taking all their jobs. They are afraid that ISIS will kill them. They think all Muslims are evil. They are afraid that Hillary will take away their guns.  They are afraid of a women president.

 

And yet it came in and changed what Conservatism was. Trump defeated such forces already and if he wins will likely put those forces in the ground so whats the problem?

 

And a border wall isn't useful? I'm not going to bother to post statistics here on the dramatic decreases Hungary and Israel have had in illegals due to their border walls as facts like that are racist and don't matter as we are told. Lets ask instead what the issue is exactly? The wall has a door, it ain't going to stop legal immigration You drive up to it, show your papers, wait, and then get let in or not. It's simply for illegal immigration which should not be happening and will also have the side effect of helping in the fight against the drug gangs which heck, would be reason enough to put up the barrier, unless you prefer doing nothing or having American police roaming the border in large numbers having gunfights instead.

 

They had Trump's enemies in the GOP for a long time, not all of Fox News but most though they are now more on his side since it became inevitable he'd be the nominee. Telling you have to go straight to Fox News. 

 

This is why you will lose. Afraid that jobs are going? People in certain states have been seeing the lion's share of their jobs moving elsewhere for a great many years now, it's not that "Mexico is taking jobs", it's that a lot of them have already been taken and only more will go with the advent of Globalist Clinton. The Democrat's response to them? You can't fight globalism, those jobs gone and going you can't ever get back so suck it up because <insert meaningless platitude here>. No one is afraid of ISIS actually, who is really scared of a group of bandits in the deserts of the middle east in the west? What people are afraid of is letting in undocumented people who might be ISIS and the even more dangerous issue which is Muslims who sympathise with the group. That is something to be scared of certainly, the reasonable thing to do, to not be afraid is illogical. As for women... Conservatives don't really tend to have a problem with having a female leader actually. Women tend to make good leaders actually for Conservatives as being female has it's advantages if you know, you ain't hopelessly corrupt and hated like Crooked Clinton.

 

NAFTA needs reform, no question about that.

 

OK...

 

And a 70-year old orangutan who can't even spell WikiLeaks right is better?

So you'd prefer Clinton who worships at the alter of things like NAFTA?

 

Already addressed. Everyone stopped at the border counts as a tick towards the number who have left. If an illegal is stopped he is counted... if he tries again and is stopped again then he counts twice, and so on. When he finally gets across... he ain't counted as having came in as he is you know, undocumented. In short, it's all very dishonest.

 

The Democrat name for Trump is "Dangerous Donald" for your information as it seems you are not aware by using that instead of a nickname like the person you responded to. There is a reason you don't hear it much, it's a terrible nickname to attack someone with as Trump's whole thing is that he's a strongman who'll play hardball with people taking advantage of America. 

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please give me one example of a member of ISIS crossing over Mexico US border. Israel actually has a decent reason to have border walls. I have no problem with illegal immigrants either as long as they aren't  criminals I think they should be allowed to live in the US until they gain full citizenship. Have you ever heard of a ladder to get over a wall?

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please give me one example of a member of ISIS crossing over Mexico US border. Israel actually has a decent reason to have border walls. I have no problem with illegal immigrants either as long as they aren't  criminals I think they should be allowed to live in the US until they gain full citizenship. Have you ever heard of a ladder to get over a wall?

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/14/islamic-state-operating-in-mexico-just-8-miles-fro/

 

Not that it matters if they do or not as the cartels are reason enough, you know smugglers, real bad dudes. 

 

A decent reason? Keeping out illegals yes, glad you agree.

 

??? By definition an illegal immigrant is a criminal so I am glad you agree once again. 

 

Ladder? Have you ever heard of guards to guard the wall?

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How many gaurds do you propose to cover the entire wall?? Give me an example of a cartel just running across the us mexico border.

Well, the bigger the wall, the more guards, means better employment rates.

 

Sign me up.

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How many gaurds do you propose to cover the entire wall?? Give me an example of a cartel just running across the us mexico border.

 

More guards means more jobs, the wall is a massive job producer and the best part is Mexico will pay for it so whats not to love? Not just more guards either. At least until the wall is full operational they'd require builders, the creation of concrete facilities near the border specifically for the wall (which will have even more workers). Of course everyone is aware that the pathetic fence had several issues and delays but... who was in charge? The likes of Obama who really doesn't want a barrier, they love illegals. With Trump who will see the wall as his legacy, something that will be a monument to him, "The Great Wall of Trump" so to speak, he will fight to ensure that it gets built as soon and as grand as possible. Don't say he wouldn't. You can't on one hand say he's a guy with a huge ego whose doing it for himself if you then say he wouldn't ensure that the country builds a monument to himself (as without him a wall would have been unthinkable).

 

Also lets not forget that the wall simply does it all, the benefits it brings are numerous. It combats it illegals as is well known but It also combats the drug cartels, the criminals, drug deals, and rapists, and we assume some good people. It even tackles racism and xenophobia, yes thats right. Think about it. In the Nordic countries for example there has been an increase in such things due to the huge influx of immigrants, people who really shouldn't be present in the country but they're lead by cucks so thats that. The wall keeps the nasty folk out (the good folk immigrate legally) leading to less immigration thereby reducing racism/xenophobia. 

 

Anyway I couldn't provide exact numbers on guards, I could make a educated guess but nothing would satisitify you so no point. Either the number given would be "too small" or "too large" with you, no way to win. 

 

Excuse me? Asking for evidence can be a good thing to do in a lot of cases. Asking for it for something like that just makes you appear ignorant. 

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/31/us/mexico-border-sinaloa-cartel-raid/

 

Cartels smuggling drugs and other nasty business is sort of well known. 

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