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Well, that is the legal definition. 

 

Aisha was 6/7 when she married Muhammad and he consummated the marriage when she was 9/10. 

thats correct

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so marrying a teen and having sex with them makes you a pedophile even if they are 15 and give you their consent?

 

Basically Islam is similar to socialism in the view that all are equal and the first welfare state was muslim. However you know things like no religion are wrong. But Islam is egalitarian in most sense

Does Islam say anything about property and economy?

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Does Islam say anything about property and economy?

Yes. No interest, welfare, Tax of muslims and non muslims. Different banking systems

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so child rapist then

 

all heil the prophet!

 

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noun
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unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of thevagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.
 
He was married to her and she gave consent
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rape1
 
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noun
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unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of thevagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.
 
He was married to her and she gave consent

 

Abu, would you legalize marriage between a 5 year old girl and a 45 year old man, if the 5 year old gave "consent"?

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Abu, would you legalize marriage between a 5 year old girl and a 45 year old man, if the 5 year old gave "consent"?

not complete marriage but a betrothal where the girl is promised to the man. if either changes mind then it can be annulled

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I take all your insults with modesty. He was a shepherd John 10:1-21

When He said "I am the Good Shepherd", it was not meant to be taken literally. When He said that, He meant that he was defending us as a Shepherd would his sheep. That part of the Bible even compares the pharisees to hired hands who don't care about the flock, while The Shepherd (representing Christ) would gladly give up his life for the flock.

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the idea of a nationalized sex industry rubs me the wrong way even though i'm in favor of the legalization of prostitution

 

sex work is work and sex workers should be treated with respect

 

nothing they're doing is wrong or immoral, that's just ridiculous, and idk why this thread is about that

 

but what bothers me about it is the idea of the state paying people a wage to sell their bodies

 

it's just a very raw form of capitalist wage slavery because the product being sold is literally a person

 

but i guess in the end i'd have to be in favor of it when i support things like nationalizing the oil industry, etc.

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Well Hereno it's just one of those cases that I don't very much trust private business to do good by their workers. Obviously a government can do wrong too of course but I believe it's a better "bet" than handing it over to private businesses. 

 

I fully agree sex workers should be treated with respect.

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Legalize? Yes. Nationalize? I'd say no.

 

Why? Because if you nationalize it, in all likelihood, they would be paid a fixed wage, or a fixed amount of money per customer. This wouldn't be fair at all, given the differing skill, performance, and attractiveness of the workers. If the government lets them choose their own rates, and get a fixed percentage for taxation, and perhaps a fixed lump sum for providing them with security, regular medical checks, and a place for the deed, then sure, go ahead.

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I would guess most would work for an employer who should be responsible for and charged for medical and security. I dependent contractors should provide evidence to the state medical and security are evident.

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Dunno if this is already mentioned, but in Nova Scotia (irl) at least, it's legal for anyone to work as a sex worker, but it is illegal for someone to manage said worker (aka no brothels, Pimps etc.).

 

It's a very strange rule with a lot more abstract points which I haven't stated, but it protects the sex worker in the sense where it's not illegal, and they can seek help without fear of being persecuted.

We have seized the means of production. Though union, and self-governance, we have organized between all peoples of the land.

 

 

 

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Dunno if this is already mentioned, but in Nova Scotia (irl) at least, it's legal for anyone to work as a sex worker, but it is illegal for someone to manage said worker (aka no brothels, Pimps etc.).

 

It's a very strange rule with a lot more abstract points which I haven't stated, but it protects the sex worker in the sense where it's not illegal, and they can seek help without fear of being persecuted.

 

We have a similar system here where being a sex worker isn't illegal but purchasing sex is, so the sex workers themselves are protected from legal consequences while the people who seek to buy sex are not.

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Women make the men stronger. We fight harder when we have something to fight for. The human race would be extinct without them, and Abu can only have bum babies.

 

Back to the original post, making prostitution legal or a profession would cut down on sex crimes, it would help control stds, add to the tax base, take away from programs like welfare and the fraud of it. This would take the shame out of it and bring it to face where it belongs. Movies use sex to sell, same with beer, football, smokes, even burger joints hint at sex to help sell.

 

I find it quite odd that our society finds using sex to sell things acceptable, but the actual selling of sex to be something that should be banned. it is likely due to the fact that the service of selling sex actually involves the use of the body instead of something like selling a hamburger.

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We have a similar system here where being a sex worker isn't illegal but purchasing sex is, so the sex workers themselves are protected from legal consequences while the people who seek to buy sex are not.

 

That is what a lot of people seem to think is a "correct" but it always comes off as nonsense to me. 

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That is what a lot of people seem to think is a "correct" but it always comes off as nonsense to me. 

 

I don't know if it's "correct"  and I don't really care, that's just how it works here and it seems to be doing what it's meant to do, but I have no idea whether or not it actually solves the underlying problems that come along with prostitution. If I had to guess, I'd say it doesn't.

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All prostitution should be outlawed, the place of women is to be mothers and homemakers; to increase the population. The same way it is the place of men to be workers and soldiers for the State.

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All prostitution should be outlawed, the place of women is to be mothers and homemakers; to increase the population. The same way it is the place of men to be workers and soldiers for the State.

 

You don't get to dictate the place of women and men, they have the right to choose what they do themselves. You'd do well to abandon the sort of backwards thinking you have presented.

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You don't get to dictate the place of women and men, they have the right to choose what they do themselves. You'd do well to abandon the sort of backwards thinking you have presented.

The welfare of the State, that is the people as a whole collective unit, is superior in importance to the whims of the individual. The kind of petty liberalism you espouse would only result in a declining birthrate and thus the general decline of the entire Nation. It is not backward to assign roles to individuals, all people must contribute to society according to their abilities, while the State gives to them according to their needs. Women biologically can increase the population, thus it is their role, the same way the Queen Ant and the Soldier Ant have their own roles. Human beings are an animal just the same and follow the same logic. Remember that for every one child a women does not have, the foreign nations produce three or more children, thus three or more workers and soldiers, it is a numbers game and there is strength in numbers.

 

Liberalism is the political outgrowth of bourgeois relations of production and thus must be smashed. The rights of the individual must always be subordinated to the Nation.

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The welfare of the State, that is the people as a whole collective unit, is superior in importance to the whims of the individual. The kind of petty liberalism you espouse would only result in a declining birthrate and thus the general decline of the entire Nation. It is not backward to assign roles to individuals, all people must contribute to society according to their abilities, while the State gives to them according to their needs. Women biologically can increase the population, thus it is their role, the same way the Queen Ant and the Soldier Ant have their own roles. Human beings are an animal just the same and follow the same logic. Remember that for every one child a women does not have, the foreign nations produce three or more children, thus three or more workers and soldiers, it is a numbers game and there is strength in numbers.

 

Liberalism is the political outgrowth of bourgeois relations of production and thus must be smashed. The rights of the individual must always be subordinated to the Nation.

 

I can agree with both of you on that. On one hand assigning roles to people isn't nice but at the same time if you remove the poisonous elements such as mass immigration you do need to make sure your population is increased. Personally I'm a believer in supporting everybody so the jobless especially have all the time in the world to do such things and throw in a cash incentive for them to "donate" children and abortion rates could well decrease. Need to actually support orphanages more though.

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Yeh because the solution is to regress to the 19th century patriarchy rather than to support families with better childcare provision.

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Yeh because the solution is to regress to the 19th century patriarchy rather than to support families with better childcare provision.

Who says I do not support extension childcare provision and related welfare. The State should pay the full costs to the mother/family of raising children to support the growth of the population. I am a fervent supporter of the equality of men and women and would support it to the death, but equal doesn't mean indifferent, and we should all have a role to build the Nation. It's a biological fact that only women can make children, they do not come from the sky with storks!

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