Exar Kun -George

Congrats on the leadership changes and good luck

This statement contradicts itself

Arthur was replying to a post specifically asking him a outright question, and he gave a honest answer. Never once did we claim to be victims, whats presented is his reasoning for his actions at the time. I believe you are correct, however this is the underwritten message of many posts ive / aero / arthur made, so i apologize if it was not transparent enough. However I can say with certainty Camelot does not support the actions IQ took, and we are sorry for having been any part of it I actually disagree, denouncing their actions isnt a apology, Camelot was apart of the colo that did act with no morals and caused many people to quit, and simply posting a denouncement would be a dis-service to you, our members, the people who were forced out and every other community member. Arthur posted the apology because he does regret being part of the colo that allowed BK / NPO to war for 8 months and force many people out. The alliance is working hard on repairing broken trust and relations with everyone and I truly hope you will see that soon. From my understanding NPO ect were already mad they refused to peace, so I believe hes referring to peacing out, however I can ask Arthur for deeper clarification if you would like.

Out of respect To t$ I will tell you this is incorrect, when Partisan said he would be willing to speak to us so we can discuss this, he did so in good faith. Ive seen reached out and plan to continue to as time goes on.

Thanks for displaying Arthurs ability to act rational and compromise?

I do want to interject here Patrick is no longer a member or Representative of Camelot. In fact he is one of the few that did not embrace the changes and adjustments we have made over the last three months and left.

Sorry for the late reply, got informed ill be returning to work next week so had to get everything arranged. I appreciate the canned response from you and T$, our relationship has certainly been strained since even before the war, mostly in-part due to our actions. Myself or Arthur will reach out soon so we can begin discussing these issues and hopefully begin the process of moving forward. In addition we have spoken to Epi again regarding the way he presents himself and the alliance's opinion of the events that have happened and moving forward we believe there will be no more confusion that we do not support the negative actions of IQ. Looking forward to talking to you soon

Feel free to reach out to me on discord Azazel#3606 Like i said I am not sure what comments he made specifically but id be happy to discuss your concerns and hopefully quell atleast some of them. I believe we have made a huge amount of progress in the three months since the war, some things may come slower, but they are happening for sure

He can certainly put his foot in his mouth often, but with that said Epi has been changing and adopting our changes, admittedly slower than others but the change is happening. Like i said, this isnt a overnight process, it will take time. Id be grateful if you give us and out 2IC some time to adopt our principles

While Camelot was powerless to end the war alone, at the time we did choose to support our ally that had already exited the war. In hindsight we shouldn't have allowed that minor skirmish to derail the plan to end the war and should have looked at other ways to end that peacefully

For sure, however the point here was not to explain the BK pov or drama, but more so of Camelots, while a "open secrete" to most, the validation of information is what had the impact. I personally am not fully aware of the situations that occurred between Cam and T$ and im sure your dislike of Camelot was founded. Not side sweeping at all, im more than happy to have this open discussion with you Certainly, we made a lot of mistakes, there is no doubting that. This behavior is something we are trying to correct moving forward and I hope we can prove ourselfs as changed.

I understand where you are coming from for sure, the reason I provided context here is merely for the ability for others to see the mindset and some of the reasoning certain decisions were made. I think context and providing as much information as we can is important to moving forward and making sure mistakes like this are never made again

Not the point at all, as i explained this decision was definitely made in error. At the time emotions were heated and a decision we consider a mistake was made, its not sopmthing we can change or fix. I merely added this section to outline what caused us backing out of that agreement, regardless of it being the correct decision or not

Sorry to hear you feel that way, Camelot really has been working hard on changing our image and inner workings over the last three months. There have been setbacks for sure and more mistakes made. This is a new world for a lot of members and the government of Camelot, and the change wont happen overnight. While I am not sure what you are referencing, I do not doubt it occurred. Camelot is undergoing an entire culture shift and some people will take a bit longer to adopt the new ideals and fundamentals of the alliance. With that, regardless of your opinion, we ask that you please keep a open mind and allow us to prove ourselves, even when we may stumble from time to time. We hope our actions and determination will be something that could attest to our commitment to what Arthur wrote. And if you find something that doesn't sit well with you, then I really encourage you to talk to us about it.

So after reading through, I find it interesting how much people forget or omit about this situation, espec regarding Camelot. Firstly I think everyone is trying to remember Camelot as it is now, in the war Camelot had little to no sway, was omitted from the major channels for a large portion of the war and for a decent portion was in the mid to lower 20s as far as alliances go. In fact it was common knowledge that goons wanted to roll Camelot but BK was stopping them. Second is that Camelot was involved for a period of time in a plot to end the war, with the plan being standing up with several other IQ alliances and demanding that IQ end the war. However this was stopped by tCW changing sides and North Point hitting a Camelot protectorate. I think objectively at that point not wanting to aid the people who just hit your protectorate, who refused to pay reasonable reps to de-escalate, is a reasonable thought. In hindsight it was a bad decision, considering the theft of NP bank and Epi’s involvement, however this is wrong and we are correcting our past mistakes with payments to them. Next people overlook the continued behind closed door actions people took during the war, for example when IQ refused to give out terms for weeks stalling the talks, myself and Epi leaked the entirety of them to kev and or Pika in a voice call to try to help get the convo started. Not to mention countless other calls with members of that coalition where we openly were against the war. So is Camelot guilty of some stuff? for sure, we do not think we're innocent of all guilt. Early on Camelot was definitely a catalyst, Epi ran around defending IQ. At the time NPO informed them T$ and others have asked to roll Camelot so really Camelot felt it was not really left with any alternatives. However post war Camelot has rearranged the internals almost entirely, with a good amount of help from people in Rose and were truly thankful. Sure we have had our “spats” here overall Camelot is not the same alliance, we share none of the old goals of IQ and are trying to prove to the rest of the community as such. So on that note, we do apologize for the actions we took and we take full responsibility for them, however we ask the community around us to give us a chance to reinvent ourselves before you make your final decision on us. Grudges are what led to GW14, the continued bitterness between TKR / BK, the grudges and refusal (mostly on bks part) to actually discuss issues and so on. Camelot wants nothing more than to fix itself, its image and help our allies where we can. If anyone has question, i'm always willing to take DMS or you can message Aero as well

Oddly enough you bullied other people enough to force yourself out

New titan, new treaty, interesting ast least

Camelot FTW

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Um now im intrigued, ive known there is a shortage but 60-75 days seems rash. Time to run numbers, i shal return Edit: So basing everything off a weeks average i got 106 days. However it does appear to increase a little under a percent daily. With that said 75 days does seem possible. On that note, its not just lead, oil, iron, coal are all decreasing (from a quick glance). Baux is on a down trend but it isnt a "flat" line per say. The fact is a lot of people have been predicting this so its expected. If we actually "run out" im sure we can expect a new econ change

wut

Another one ! This is getting out of control

The current turn time of 2hrs allows people of different timezones to react to incoming wars. For example UK time is +5 of EST, most European players are asleep during update. The only thing keeping them "alive" is that they have a time buffer before a second attack can be done. This would just make spies OP. I dont have much more to say past that Yea no, this would just allow looser to sit and wait for 3-4 days of maps and nuke someone into beige. It promotes lazy game play. This idea is horrendous, 3 slots is enough to flatten people. If done properly the person attacked can not win or do much, so adding a extra 3-7 slots is horrid. Im not sure what this is, are you suggesting a project where ANY nation can attack ANY other nation if they have a project? @Ripper get this guy a beer I mean i have no issue with adding a new rss to the game, however i dont think its really needed. It would really just be a pointless change Meh, alot of people want to get rid of baseball, so adding more woulnt make sense no, just no This is to prevent people from growing uncontrollably. Think of it like this, the game started 5 years ago, if someone joined 5 years ago and each city costed the same, this player could be at 100+ cities by now. New players would have zero chance at reaching him or "catching up". Did you check what is in the game already or not before making this? really over complicating things

No rule against it

Lol no, I explained the issue we have with you to ONE alliance, i even told them to keep you as long as you leave our alliance alone. Have you ever heard of this fancy dancy thing called a unique ID. Its unique for your PC, not account.