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Elaborating though, people don't want to include future allies in the NAP because they can't really speak for them. They didn't fight in the war and they weren't even tied when the war happened, so they can't be a signatory of the NAP. That said, I do think it's ridiculous to expect someone to honor a NAP over an MDP. And thus, they're sort of defacto included in the NAP. You can attack them, as they aren't actually included in the NAP, but you can't fault an ally for defending them. If anything, it's a fault as it's a way to get around a NAP by attacking allies of NAPed parties moreso than anything else. Breaking the spirit moreso than the letter. Edit: After reading some more of the debates around RON and whatnot and seeing some examples/re-reading the above, I think I would agree that adding a clause saying "we won't attack your prots or [uninvolved/future] allies" is a fair/decent middle ground that clearly includes how people view this issue in the NAP, as it's not speaking for the allies - they're free to go about and do whatever they want still - because isn't actually including them in the NAP and binding them in the same way a signatory would be. That said, I do still think it's implied and given that people have made this sentiment clear for years, you know what you're getting into by doing it. It's not ambiguous, you're pushing limits.

Now we're just going in circles 😄 "No one's done it before" --> "Well, no one's f*cked around and found out before" --> "Okay, but no one's done it before"

You haven't seen it because generally people haven't messed with MDPs of someone under a NAP, because they know most people would say MDPs trump NAPs and act accordingly.

Welcome!

Welcome!

Happy birthday, Grumpy! 🎉 🎂 🎉

Yay! Excited to see this

Hardly smh

That's because Uritithu isn't anything; they spelled it wrong. It's supposed to be Urithiru, the home of the Knights Radiant.

I'll one up you on that as I've found the true culprit. You have declared war on Hoosier Daddy for the reason of: " It's Urithiru. " Wars last for a maximum of 5 days, but peace can be mutually agreed upon beforehand. Good luck!

Wait a second. Uritithu? If we hadn't just split, I'd ask Canbec to deal 72 for that. Uritithu smh. Omg. It was in the initial announcement too. This whole relationship was a lie. declares on t$

Take him, and you'll only get coal for life.

He needs all of the help. Au revoir, t$.

You just like accusing everyone of using AI generated texts, don't you? Ahahaha Congrats, Aurora and Carthago.

Why? Does Santa bring you coal? Tsk tsk. Gotta be nicer to him.

Try having a milcom head called Santa Claus. Christmas wars are a no go.

Congrats, Brad, Skwidgy, and Cru and condolences Bez, Bug, and Basil. Love you guys ❤️ Brad and Squee, you're stuck forever, I hope you know. Welcome to the semi-retired crew. Pull up a rocking chair and I'll teach you the best way to make spitballs to shoot at Bez and Bug when you need to get their attention. I've had a few leaders to hone my skills on, so I'm quite good at it now.

You guys are coming off more triggered than playful but good to know that playful is the intent apparently. Congrats on the DoE.

Here you go!

Hodor? 😧

So, updating for this current cluster of wars is probably going to be hell. I'm aiming to do so probably next weekend. If anyone would like to help by posting here, that would be much appreciated. Thanks!

👀 (Congrats to both Solo and Luci. Enjoy your retirement, Luci )

Most alliance require the use of Discord (or an alternative platform) for coordination and community building. If it's just the Discord platform itself you don't like, The Knights Radiant uses Slack instead.

Hey that's @Bradley's thing! Enjoy retirement, Vemek, and congrats Keram