Sisyphus

Fairly sure you're an inflexible toad who puts his 3-10 year old grudges against the health of an entire game.

The first half of your sentence implies you do need to be pragmatic if you're serious about not being NPO (or a vassal).

That's not very pragmatic of you.

Pragmatically speaking, I meant it's because it's a waste of both our time and your efforts.

We are bastards.

It seems pointless to have this argument with Jazz.

Very glad to see this! I look forward to seeing what we're able to accomplish together!

The resolve and commitment of my alliance mates reminding me why I joined the Syndicate to begin with. Extend that out and I'm just pretty damn well impressed by our allies and friends throughout the war as well. And to think we didn't even have to threaten them to keep them committed to the fight too!

I hate the circumstances. Speaking for the people that didn't know about the recently revealed information, thanks for entering the war to support us and congrats on peace.

Yeah, I don't think many of us are arguing that bots in and of themselves are wrong or that things shouldn't be made easier for players. I do think it's important to make the distinction that bots which automate manual or analog input (ie: Leo being able to "send out" aid immediately without even logging into his nation) crosses a pretty distinct line. I think recruitment bots would be the only reasonable exception to this, and that's because the only significant analog input you're automating is hitting the "send" button in the messaging system and they're beyond established at this point. A simple aid request / approval function for banks would be really nice, actually. And anything that makes the game more mobile friendly is great too. I saw some mention of automating aid send outs for the 100/100 alliances, which is a fine way to play but I wouldn't say it's a fundamentally necessary component of the game. If that's the way you want to play and you're organized enough and your membership is active enough you could easily coordinate requests in such a way that your econ team would just have to log on once a day or so and accept member requests to achieve the same result via a simple aid request / approval system. Adding features like that should be part and parcel to the -actual development- of a healthy game (hey Alex!).

This post assumes the venn diagram is an assessment of everyone, where it's actually an assessment of one individual's behavior.

I'm basically in agreement with these posts. Particularly in regard to transactions (bank/ trade) and exchanges (war/baseball) that require analog participation and rely on player activity. The only thing that I'd leave the door open for is recruitment / mass messaging but even then something like that could be exploited and if an ingame alternative is provided (as mentioned) it would be unnecessary.

I promise, I'm done with that schtick now. ?

This is one of those issues where I'm inclined to be critical like everyone else, but this is a young and inexperienced alliance and the circumstances aren't exactly ordinary. I hope Interstellar & Co. learn a few good lessons from this, if nothing else. And congrats, peace is difficult to find these days.

"My lying, shady and underhanded attempts at manipulating your government failed and I got mad about it." -Roq 2020

Welcome to the enlightenment and congratulations!

We wouldn't want to set dangerous precedents now, would we?

And to think we were all so close to negotiating peace before Kastor posted this.

Maybe stop questioning it and thank this man for his service?

I can't believe you'd just hand us these high quality tactics. Forwarding to Milcom immediately.

The problem is that this has been a self-admitted IQ strategy from (pretty much) the get-go (once they understood they wouldn't topple things immediately). GOONS is the budding algae on the surface of the real problem: neo-IQ players are (and have been) attempting to kill off the "livestock" by poisoning the water.

tl;dr "I, choosing to ignore all of the (in-game) evidence, don't understand how I (or anyone [Roq] so closely associated with myself) should be held culpable for responsibility of the direct result of my (and/or our) actions leading up to current events. Ignoring all evidence opposed to the fact that we acted in good faith, WE ACTED IN GOOD FAITH (repeat ad nauseam). (*)Engage: Gaslight: It's obviously your (your = not us) fault that we (we = not you) are acting the way that we (we = not us unless it suits our narrative) are reacting. ---Attempt Failed--- NPO: Invoke: Other Game (that everyone else here was either not part of or actively attempts to avoid): stop bringing this back! Loop back to (*)