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Gaius Julius Caesar
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11 minutes ago, Sketchy said:

Bro you just self reported. I'm trying to pick my jaw up off the floor, how did you manage to type this out without checking yourself?

At the time of our fight with Sail, our allies were Camelot, Cypher and TGH. That's it. You needed CTO and KT for that did you? You needed them to hit us? So....you were planning to dogpile perhaps? The thing you are always seemingly upset about when it's convenient?

Our reasons for hitting KT were publicly known, and had nothing to do with you. The claim, repeatedly made by SAIL, was that CTO was not part of SAIL.

We chose to target an alliance, with legitimate grievance, that was, according to you, not only not in your sphere, but not tied to anyone in your sphere, and you protected them, to....hit us with them?

You do realise that validates my entire argument right?

Except you have your events back to front. We hit WTF etc AFTER you interrupted our attempts to hit KT.

We never would have hit them, had you not first intervened in our conflict.

The result of that is we chose to target you directly. If your claim here is your plan was always to simply dogpile us with KT/CTO etc, well then I applaud your honesty but wonder why you'd bring that into a discussion whilst trying to defend yourself against the core accusation that, to steer you back to the central argument of my dow, was that you sought to have us disband florida so that you could then consolidate and pick us off, and that when you saw an opportunity to harm us in the future, whilst fighting us in the present, you took it, sealing this war and your fate.

Yes, which is why you pawned us off to WTF et al as a delay tactic. 

Which is literally my accusation. And to be clear, we made multiple approaches over the course of the month we were at war, clinging on to the first as if it's my argument you should have immediately agreed to peace after 2 weeks is disingenuous. We were no closer to peace after 2 weeks or 1 month, nor were we given any peace terms after a month either.

It's hilarious that you are again basically just saying the quiet part out loud.

You didn't want peace. No shit lolol.

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Also T$ reaching out to EVH & KT is just like Rose n TI reaching out for coalition building this war

 

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 I personally voice my own thought processes based on own desires of informational curiosity as well love for discussion based on questions & statements I made rather just trusting info like a collective hivemind

Onlookers whom hop aboard the brainless bandwagon refusing inter-articulation based on assumed feelings, go give yo balls a tug ya tit fugger         

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50 minutes ago, Sketchy said:

Rose and TI reaching out for coa-

Wait it's firwof why am I responding

Firwof agrees with Syndicate, that's the best possible evidence you are on the wrong side of anything.

I for one think Firwof is the perfect representative for all t$ matters, and will assume from here on out he speaks with the support and voice of t$ unless otherwise corrected by an official t$ FA representative.

Carry on Firwof, tell me more about this TI/Rose coalition buddy.

 

44 minutes ago, Tartarus said:

@Gaius Julius Caesar step aside buddy your replacement is ready 

I wuv da daste of gazz & doot lickin

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 I personally voice my own thought processes based on own desires of informational curiosity as well love for discussion based on questions & statements I made rather just trusting info like a collective hivemind

Onlookers whom hop aboard the brainless bandwagon refusing inter-articulation based on assumed feelings, go give yo balls a tug ya tit fugger         

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1 hour ago, Sketchy said:

We never would have hit them, had you not first intervened in our conflict.

The result of that is we chose to target you directly. If your claim here is your plan was always to simply dogpile us with KT/CTO etc, well then I applaud your honesty but wonder why you'd bring that into a discussion whilst trying to defend yourself against the core accusation that, to steer you back to the central argument of my dow, was that you sought to have us disband florida so that you could then consolidate and pick us off, and that when you saw an opportunity to harm us in the future, whilst fighting us in the present, you took it, sealing this war and your fate.

Yes, which is why you pawned us off to WTF et al as a delay tactic. 

Which is literally my accusation. And to be clear, we made multiple approaches over the course of the month we were at war, clinging on to the first as if it's my argument you should have immediately agreed to peace after 2 weeks is disingenuous. We were no closer to peace after 2 weeks or 1 month, nor were we given any peace terms after a month either.

It's hilarious that you are again basically just saying the quiet part out loud.

You didn't want peace. No shit lolol.

I have no knowledge of the KT and won't speak to it.

But it felt a lot to WTF like you were baiting Church of Atom, a SAIL member, into coming to our defense.  Perhaps you hoped that their entry would at some point constitute a NAP violation, or maybe you wanted them out of the way before the rest of SAIL showed up.

As it was, we worked with United Purple Nations, The Coal Mines, United Socialist Nations, and The Lost Empire and resolved to hang on until the entirety of SAIL and their friends could come riding to the rescue.  Indeed, we set up a Discord server for coordination purposes and a temporary coalition was formed.  CoA's early entry was never going to happen, though we did talk frequently.

You weren't "pawned off" on us.  Once SAIL and friends countered you, we were more than willing to negotiate with you, and it was even suggested to us by Aurora and CoA that we could seek an exit from the war.  You never showed to talk.  You did manage to get hold of a very early draft of a peace proposal that was supposed to be the starting point of talks before it was finished and parade around with it show to whoever would listen....

But it's all good, since we weren't all that motivated to exit the war at that point.  The pressure was off for the most part, and many WTF members were sitting around for lack of targets.  We were content to wait until the general peace negotiations started and everyone was ready for the war to be over.  When they did finally start, the war ended very (some say too) quickly.

 

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gaffe aside, let's pretend most wars since DH, Rose hasn't pulled dog piles, further been knocked outta 1st for a long periods like a few months. Let's also pretend TI hasn't called in Rose+ when they're in a "pinch" war wise. These backroom tactics are so blatantly obvious in history, this flaming & baiting in regards to is quite amusing, like something definitely wants to be undermined.

More amusing to watch Syndi, group I used to despise, be called out on admitting there past mistakes plus how they've moved on. Especially from the group that they cut since they legit told Cata & Para "pls don't do that, not a safe move,  that'll get us piled". Yall disobeyed not believing, got cut anyway only to run into the forwarned situation. Even !@#$ed about  the war being unfair even thou yall stuck that stick into your tire. Then that same group just also just flame, bait, & ignore productive means whilst acting like doing so is?! Quite pathetic ngl this is such normalized these days as a viable meta lmao.

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td;lr-

Strong competent ppl admit faults n works on themselves whilst being mindful of around them.

Weak incompetent ppl propogate their flaws unto others, whilst  promoting their self claimed strengths.

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forgor to mention constant backrooming, even after being reprimanded each war for it
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 I personally voice my own thought processes based on own desires of informational curiosity as well love for discussion based on questions & statements I made rather just trusting info like a collective hivemind

Onlookers whom hop aboard the brainless bandwagon refusing inter-articulation based on assumed feelings, go give yo balls a tug ya tit fugger         

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