Subin Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) The Fall : Due to some shameless acts of some members by taking full advantage of the LOINs open type government, LOIN has been officially disbanded by its leaders. It all happened in 24 hours as two of the new members over threw the leaders and took charge. These two nations http://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=5905 and http://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=641 stole all the money from alliance bank (around 300k) and used for their individual improvements. Later on the day, they increased the tax rates to 30%. This made alliance leaders thinking about disbanding LOIN and creating a new one. As the decision was made, One of the council member removed all loyal members from the alliance and removed himself later, leaving the alliance for those two nations. Rebirth : After disbanding LOIN, the founder of LOIN, Lucy Heartfilia created a new alliance named "Holy Imperial League" http://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=656 (H.I.L). It works on same principle as before. Salaries for the members, Democratic system and higly active members. We are working on bringing back our old members. Reborn from the ashes of the Legion of Imperial Nations, we rise stronger than ever ! ! ! Edited September 8, 2014 by Subin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucy Heartfilia Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 WE SHALL RISE AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhelm IV Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Learn from your mistakes and only let people who you trust and can actually do their jobs, into government. Hell, remove anything from your alliance that would be easy to take advantage off, as it's just a plain bad idea. Because having an open system like that, is just going to end in some !@#$ taking advantage of it. Good luck on your new endeavour, alliance wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry LeRow Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 alliance bank getting stolen... sounds familiar... better luck with the new one Quote I'm and INTJ (http://www.16personalities.com/intj-personality). What are you (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellhound Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Didn't Loin merge with BoC though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subin Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Didn't Loin merge with BoC though? nope.. we decided to stay as unique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) I'm not going to say it is your fault because it really isn't, sure the dude probably shouldn't have being made heir. But the fact he can manipulate being an heir to do extreme stuff such as a complete takeover is ridiculous, I always had doubt about how much control was actually put into alliance management. An heir should not be able to take over an alliance, makes me wonder what officers can do now. Edited September 8, 2014 by Diabolos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereno Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Speaking of people you can trust, why is the guy who made this announcement raiding my alliance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Frostsword Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Didn't Loin merge with BoC though? Sorry, that is my fault. I have not make the public announcement on it yet. It was called off. We were too quick to make the announcements, we failed to work out all the detail. In light of that, LOIN decide against the merge. We respected their wishes, and wish them the best of luck. Quote Frostsword is love. Frostsword is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodo Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 alliance bank getting stolen... sounds familiar... better luck with the new one Don't be bitter. We still love you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codonian Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Subin, It was around 700k actually :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longshadow Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Speaking of people you can trust, why is the guy who made this announcement raiding my alliance? Hopefully more at 11... Quote "This was not our destiny!" "Times change..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenages Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) So, maybe try to be a little more competent in the future? Because currently you're profoundly unimpressive. You announced a merger on the forums that hadn't actually happened, and ended up not happening. You for reasons passing understanding, trusted a brand new, zero day nation, so much that you made him heir of your alliance, and then were shocked that he turned out to be untrustworthy. And now your new alliance is going to work on "the same principles as before." Presumably these are the same principles that allowed this to happen in this first place. Just a suggestion, but you might want to consider tweaking them. EDIT: I guess competence was far too much to ask for: http://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/2746-recognition-of-hostilities-from-the-socialist-international/ If ever a group deserved to have it's alliance stolen out from under them and the bank stolen it's y'all, just for how much you quite clearly suck at leading and running an alliance. Godspeed the Socialist International, teach them a lesson. I'm not going to say it is your fault because it really isn't, sure the dude probably shouldn't have being made heir. But the fact he can manipulate being an heir to do extreme stuff such as a complete takeover is ridiculous, I always had doubt about how much control was actually put into alliance management. An heir should not be able to take over an alliance, makes me wonder what officers can do now. I disagree. There is a reason heirs are able to remove leaders. Every alliance has a different way of choosing its leaders. Some have fairly frequent turnover due to elections, etc. Sometimes a leader refuses to leave after their term is over, or just goes bat!@#$. The heir being able to remove the leader provides at least some degree of safeguard against such action. It's not perfect, but nothing would be, and at least it's a check to some degree. And if you don't want anyone being able to remove you ever from leading your alliance, just don't make someone an heir, pretty simple fix. Not sure about accessing the bank, but I know officers can't remove or reassign the alliance leader, so nothing to worry about there. Edited September 8, 2014 by Tenages 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Can officers assign heirs though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodo Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Can officers assign heirs though?I don't believe so, if memory serves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayayay Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Can officers assign heirs though? They cannot Quote Orbis Wars | CSI: UPN | B I G O O F | PW Expert Has Nerve To Tell You How To Run Your Own Goddamn Alliance | Occupy Wall Street | Sheepy Sings TheNG - My favorite part is when Steve suggests DEIC might have done something remotely successful, then gets massively shit on for proposing such a stupid idea. On 1/4/2016 at 6:37 PM, Sheepy said: This was !@#$ing gold. 10/10 possibly my favorite post on these forums yet. Sheepy said: I'm retarded, you win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry LeRow Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Don't be bitter. We still love you. That's always good to hear. Pardon the late reply Quote I'm and INTJ (http://www.16personalities.com/intj-personality). What are you (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Rebirth as HIL then Transform into FEAR, maybe is time you guys get the act right instead of keep changing Alliance name when some sort of drama came up . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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