Ekejen Luish Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Roleplay here has gotten unrealistic and out of hand. Though I do encourage imaginative RP, roleplay on National Affairs is now all about massive space empires, huge unrealistic projects, and other things that in my opinion have gotten out of hand. Back a while ago (like a year and a half ago), roleplay was a lot more about Orbis Politics and War. Now it's a strange and I feel weird mix of realistic contemporary society and politics, and a science fiction roleplay, as well as favoritistic, unrealistically short, and non-developed plots of war. I know many of you will probably not agree with me, whether simply to criticize me because you dislike me or because a true disagreement in thought. However this is how I feel, and I will be leaving roleplay. If any of you feel similar, I hope you encourage yourselves and others to improve roleplay across the forum. If not, well have fun with your overfrequent, undeveloped wars and your unreasonable violence and unrealistic technologies and crap. Signed, Why the hell do you need me to sign you know who typed this Edited October 31, 2016 by Meonesian Government 1 This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekejen Luish Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 Also for anyone who is going to say Meonesia had so much violence, just look at France, Evenstar, Calendonia, and others who have had like a ton of wars. This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenna Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) 1 war=A ton And FYI I've said it before and I'll say it again if I go to war I use realistic numbers. Don't get all upset cause you've had more civil wars than Crosby has changed nations. Edited October 31, 2016 by Cenna 4 The Caledonian Empire--In Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalmor Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 massive space empires, huge unrealistic projects Tbh it really has been annoying. and I will be leaving roleplay Aww, it sucks to see you go! However, if this will be like other people who have 'left' (Solaris, Eva-Beatrice, Riza, Amaryllis) then you'll be back before long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamea Arano Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Aww, it sucks to see you go! However, if this will be like other people who have 'left' (Solaris, Eva-Beatrice, Riza, Amaryllis) then you'll be back before long. I never said i left the natrp. Terms of Service | Wiki | Contact Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaryllis Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Thalmor, I don't think you were trying to be mean (the problem with typing is that you can't tell the tone) but I did say I was debating leaving because of RL issues. When I took a few days to get my head on straight I decided to not leave. Edited October 31, 2016 by Amaryllis 1 Nerd To The Core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenna Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 So because you think my rping something that has no advantage whatsoever affects you to the point that it's annoying? Mkay The Caledonian Empire--In Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwieger Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Roleplay here has gotten unrealistic and out of hand. Though I do encourage imaginative RP, roleplay on National Affairs is now all about massive space empires, huge unrealistic projects, and other things that in my opinion have gotten out of hand. Back a while ago (like a year and a half ago), roleplay was a lot more about Orbis Politics and War. Now it's a strange and I feel weird mix of realistic contemporary society and politics, and a science fiction roleplay, as well as favoritistic, unrealistically short, and non-developed plots of war. I know many of you will probably not agree with me, whether simply to criticize me because you dislike me or because a true disagreement in thought. However this is how I feel, and I will be leaving roleplay. If any of you feel similar, I hope you encourage yourselves and others to improve roleplay across the forum. If not, well have fun with your overfrequent, undeveloped wars and your unreasonable violence and unrealistic technologies and crap. Signed, Why the hell do you need me to sign you know who typed this I can agree that RP here needs work: on this we see eye to eye. Admittedly, I am no fan of the lack of depth that seems to pervade much of the roleplay that fills the myriad pages of these forums. Beyond this though I sense a great gulf between us. Many people tend to have a rather distorted view of realism (apparently if it isn't technology, it isn't worth the time to discern its realism level; if it is technology, then if it hasn't been built yet it gets generally lumped into a vast and overarching "unrealistic" category) which I find to be rather... Limited in scope. One thing I like to point out is that there are many different types of realism - context is king and it is through this lens that everything should be viewed. I could build a "realistically" functioning society in a steampunk world and it would act and behave in a manner consist with a steampunk polity - complete with its own set of believably and realism. What you are describing isn't actually a quest for realism - you are looking more for a limit on technologies. Large or frequent wars, space empires, and grand projects are not inherently unrealistic. I can easily defend each of these (whether or not I'm a fan is another matter entirely) if need be. Execution and context determine whether or not something is reasonable (although I'm willing to bet if someone had an RP about hoards people building massive structures that soar hundreds of feet into the air using mainly physical manpower they'd be laughed at as "unrealistic..." Until they got to the end of the RP to reveal they were writing about the construction of the pyramids the whole time). @Cenna - Many years ago a dear friend of mine used to RP this very vast, very large empire. He never went overboard with numbers in battle, but the mere fact that his nation was so vast and so much larger in comparison to everyone else highlighted the absurdity of the fact he even bothered interacting at all. There's no true risk and there's no inherent danger, there is only the looming reminder that this other person you are RPing with potentially has millions of X or billions of Y sitting in wait should things go south - and that thought alone is enough to spoil interaction even if it never comes to fruition. In your case specifically, there's little reason to have such massive claims as you can't actually use them in any decent RP (not to mention that you cannot truly fathom the scale with which you're working - it's beyond the human mind). It is simply wankage. Edited November 1, 2016 by Schwieger 1 Roleplay Nations: Imperial Nalydya Kingdom of Waikahla-Pohaku'ula *** "Your fiction is much greater than our own... We will, of course, defer to your judgement on all things that don't exist." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenna Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 See the way you define rp is different than mine. I rp my space empire solely for my own reasons. My room that interacts with others is way more fair. If he can't handle it then it's his problem. Thalmor did fine when we had the war and nothing was op in fact the war is still "technically" going. The Caledonian Empire--In Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Also for anyone who is going to say Meonesia had so much violence, just look at France, Evenstar, Calendonia, and others who have had like a ton of wars. Says the guy who had his entire royal family killed, then was like just a prank. Funny thing is, the horrible RP Wars others have done, and the short ones you call out the only war that made sense, and was actually developed. By far the Trade wars was the best war RP in this Forum to my knowledge or in recent times. And we haven't had so many wars, Sure somethings seem out of hand I won't lie, but even for me. My space empire is really irrelevant other than in our current goals to explore space as apart of the ESA. Realistically, we have 4 major allies who have these techs and beyond; Rokkenjima, Caledonia, Chernigov, GMR, Britannia and others. So yes it seems fair I could progress to build space crafts, but if you read my post you see they are all on training missions with Caledonia because they aren't masters of operating them. Not to mention you haven't posted neither commented in weeks. if realism is having 20 civil wars and being a failed state then please do enlighten us on your books of Running a county for dummies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Half of you guys are dissing his post rather than actually read it and think about it. I agree with Meonesia 100% it has been out of hand and been unrealistic for awhile, when I first came to the rp here I really enjoyed it because it was realistic and enjoyable. Now it is out of hand and doesn't really make sense to me, plus everyone wanting a war for some reason. I have been thinking about leaving recently aswell mainly because most people here don't like me and more or less looks at me like a joke rather than seriously. So I will be leaving aswell. Sorry to the few people who actually think of me as a friend(which is really only a couple people) but yeah I'm leaving. I'll see y'all later and if you need me just message me in game. Edited November 1, 2016 by Crosby 2 Sincerely, The Red and Blue soldiers of Project Freelancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Yay! (bye, have fun wherever you go and return if you want) Edited November 1, 2016 by Riza Hawkeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenna Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 (edited) Bye Felicia Edited November 1, 2016 by Cenna The Caledonian Empire--In Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Half of you guys are dissing his post rather than actually read it and think about it. I agree with Meonesia 100% it has been out of hand and been unrealistic for awhile, when I first came to the rp here I really enjoyed it because it was realistic and enjoyable. Now it is out of hand and doesn't really make sense to me, plus everyone wanting a war for some reason. I have been thinking about leaving recently aswell mainly because most people here don't like me and more or less looks at me like a joke rather than seriously. So I will be leaving aswell. Sorry to the few people who actually think of me as a friend(which is really only a couple people) but yeah I'm leaving. I'll see y'all later and if you need me just message me in game. Well, this post wasn't really to serve the purpose of making change, he called out members of the NATRP Community regardless. Rather than solving, or helping the problem he decided to post and say he was packing his bags which is totally accetable if he wants to. I mean, nations dissolving every month isn't realistic either. Not to mention almost everyone here did in fact say they do agree that RP has gotten out of hand sometimes. And no one wants a war, I mean you've started like 4 . I mean, best of luck in your future endeavors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenna Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Literally things are the same as they were before you joined. I don't have any remorse in the fact that the two most idiotic members of the rp are leaving because they finally realized that they screwed their reputation up by either A. Having more civil wars than there are blades of grass or B. Change nations more than a girl changes clothes. Excuse me for not caring when he tries and calls one of the best rp wars we've had crap because his RP never worked out. The Caledonian Empire--In Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 *grabs chair, sits quickly. Puts on Firefighter suit. Eats some popcorn... Let the burn session begin* Inb4 Four shuts it down lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eva-Beatrice Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 3 When the seagulls cried, none were left alive. "If life is a miracle, then death is a certainty." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaryllis Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Eh, I read it and I do agree with Wolf that yeah he's entitled to leave and he has his reasons. Now am I entitled to disagree with his reasons. Also yes. Do I think the rp can get out of hands sometimes. Yes, any rp can. Do I think it can be unrealistic. Nah but that's because you could argue difference in what you could say is realistic. I always say if you actually properly rp out what you plan to do with your nation (meaning if you don't pull things out of thin air and just say it exists) then I can say it's realistic. Tech (at least in my opinion) is the hardest to tell if it is realistic because not everyone has technological know how (i.e. again me). Doesn't mean I'll instantly dismiss it as unrealistic (and again it does help if the rp does explain it in a way where it can be possible). As for the mix. When I first came on it already had it so I don't see why that's an issue now unless you're uncomfortable with how far it came. And with that being said, best of luck both of you. Nerd To The Core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekejen Luish Posted November 1, 2016 Author Share Posted November 1, 2016 I told you guys, figure it out yourselves. I don't really care what happens anymore because it almost seems beyond fixing, which is why I'm leaving, I just hope maybe you guys will do something. Besides, I have a life and I decided I don't want to spend it on this roleplay with several extremely rude community members (I mean just look at some of the above posts) who overshadow almost any good or halfway decent people in the RP community. This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cenna Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 So we are rude? Rude for defending ourselves and our rp from one who has literally no room to talk. Tbf you were a member of the UDAC I had even several times attempted to rp with you on your space rp. You ignored every attempt. Not to mention you miraculously built a space navy put of no where....(mine has been a work in progress since I first joined, just because I don't restart everytime we have a new map doesn't mean it didn't happen, France had the help of my scientists and workers who already know the ins and outs of building a space navy) your hypocrisy is laughable but no where near as laughable as you trying to call our rp unrealistic( I've explained somewhat so in lamemans terms how I built the things I did) also you weren't around a year and a half ago so how did you know shit? A year and a half ago there were floating islands and the GSE invading said islands also there were people who believed they had armies in the trillions that they could expend and only lost a small percentage of their army. So don't tell me what anything was like a year and a half ago when you weren't anywhere near here to know. I hope you enjoyed your stay but like I said I show no remorse in seeing you leave because you can't handle my rp. The Caledonian Empire--In Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 See this is what I mean, I say I'm leaving because I'm done with all this, and y'all go start more by being !@#$ to me after I'm giving y'all what you wanted by leaving. Also yes I have no problem calling out people who break rules or bend rules for people. Never have never will, didn't matter if I was on the RP team or not, y'all can't change or fix rp because half of you are to worried on trying to diss others or drive them away from rp then trying to fix it 1 Sincerely, The Red and Blue soldiers of Project Freelancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Church Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Anyway that is my last post have a good day y'all Sincerely, The Red and Blue soldiers of Project Freelancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamea Arano Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Anyway that is my last post have a good day y'all -removed for rule violation- Terms of Service | Wiki | Contact Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Never before have I worked with such an immature community of people who are constantly working against themselves in every way while complaining that things need to be better. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, in all seriousness, ashamed. Now, I'm not sure how old you guys are in RL or how you were raised - but you guys are bottom of the barrel bullies to each other - its time to grow up. I have asked you all on numerous occasions to keep this forum/community in the positives. Positive attitudes only. Then what do you do? You just jump all over each other in a never ending pile of shit drama for no actual reason. OMG someone RP's different than youuu.. cry a god damn river. This is closed - rule violators have been warned - positive attitudes only. much shame. very disrespect. 5 It was a pleasure serving this community - Stay Frosty! Forum Rules ☆ Game Rules ☆ Terms of Service ☆ PW Wiki ☆ IRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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