Cruz drops, Trump win likely

[Lannan13]

Today Ted Cruz dropped out of the Presidential race and God has cursed us by giving the US Donald Trump as the GOP nomination. 

 

What are your thoughts on the race now that Cruz has dropped out and now it's Trump vs. Clinton. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZD6xCe75YM

[James Hequ]

 Trump vs. Clinton. 

bleach for sale i have bleach for sale

[Moreau]

The story goes a little something like this: Baby fingers Trump and his BFF Hillary (whom he gave tons of money to and who attended his wedding) figured out a way to secure her victory at the general elections this year by him running on the Republican side and spitting out so much filth during the general election that even the most experienced prostitutes gag in repulsion. I also believe they will adopt the same strategy next election to secure her next 4 years in office.

 

In other words, the Republican party has been hijacked by a Democratic political saboteur with terrible hair.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Moreau III

[Livius Clades]

America is doomed. Time to pick our poison.

[Rozalia]

Beat you to it also mate: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/12692-indiana-results-yuge/

 

Aren't you a Libertarian? Trump isn't your guy or anything but I'd think he'd be better for you than you know, Clinton. 

 

Also speaking of God he apparently told Cruz it was his time to President and the Priesthood according to Glenn Beck was rising. As we can see that did not happen as the Donald was making deals to get himself that spot. 

 

The story goes a little something like this: Baby fingers Trump and his BFF Hillary (whom he gave tons of money to and who attended his wedding) figured out a way to secure her victory at the general elections this year by him running on the Republican side and spitting out so much filth during the general election that even the most experienced prostitutes gag in repulsion. I also believe they will adopt the same strategy next election to secure her next 4 years in office.

 

In other words, the Republican party has been hijacked by a Democratic political saboteur with terrible hair.

 

Funny considering I'm pretty sure I've seen you accuse others of conspiracy theories. Yes Trump has spent tens of millions of his own money to get Clinton in the White House when he could... just win and get whatever people would think he'd want from Clinton (if he wants such a thing), and also get the added prestige of being President. People should make up their minds. On one hand they say Trump is narcissistic but then say he'd give up the presidency just like that? Such things conflict. 

 

It falls apart even further when you look at just who could have faced Hillary. Jeb! was low energy and easy prey, someone with a tainted family name. Cruz is a Holy Cruzader, which goes down well in a couple of areas and badly everywhere else. Rubio is inexperienced and weak, a boy. Like Clinton needs to rig the game when thats the competition. 

[Moreau]

Funny considering I'm pretty sure I've seen you accuse others of conspiracy theories. Yes Trump has spent tens of millions of his own money to get Clinton in the White House when he could... just win and get whatever people would think he'd want from Clinton (if he wants such a thing), and also get the added prestige of being President. People should make up their minds. On one hand they say Trump is narcissistic but then say he'd give up the presidency just like that? Such things conflict. 

 

It falls apart even further when you look at just who could have faced Hillary. Jeb! was low energy and easy prey, someone with a tainted family name. Cruz is a Holy Cruzader, which goes down well in a couple of areas and badly everywhere else. Rubio is inexperienced and weak, a boy. Like Clinton needs to rig the game when thats the competition. 

 

Jeb Bush is literally George Bush -- the interventionist & torturer in chief -- in terrible disguise, Cruz is George Bush on steroids & a zealous Satanist, and Rubio is a little Zionist man-child but none of that excuses the freakish baby fingered lunatic known as Donald Trump and his equally absurd foreign policy. I mean if Trump was simply a racist isolationist who wanted to kick all the Muslims out of America/Europe and be friends with Russia and screw the world over economically, all the more power to him, but this idiot (If he is to be believed) want's to invade Libya, Iraq, Syria, Nigeria, Egypt, Somalia, and who knows however many other countries IS have expanded into with American ground troops (which will cost TENS of trillions of dollars to fund) whilst his able bodied Son remains behind with the women. That to me is, one, not a sign of leadership and, two, something that could very easily lead to WW3.

 

We are not living in the middle ages were people can go around exterminating half the planet... HD videos and photo's will flood the internet and carefully document every crime committed by America (for all time) and inspire attacks that will make Trump forget about 9/11... not to mention the fact that there are predominately Muslim majority countries with nukes like Pakistan, with state of the art fighter jets/tanks/artillery/missiles like Turkey/Gulf countries/Egypt etc and i really don't think they will take too kindly to an extremely overt attempt at global extermination by America. Heck even the lame UN might actually do something for once in it's crappy existence (not that we should hold our breath on that one). All in all his FA policy (if it's to be believed and not some ruse to get Hillary into office) is that of an adolescent child who doesn't know how the world works and the consequences of his actions.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Moreau III

[Rozalia]

Jeb Bush is literally George Bush -- the interventionist & torturer in chief -- in terrible disguise, Cruz is George Bush on steroids & a zealous Satanist, and Rubio is a little Zionist man-child but none of that excuses the freakish baby fingered lunatic known as Donald Trump and his equally absurd foreign policy. I mean if Trump was simply a racist isolationist who wanted to kick all the Muslims out of America/Europe and be friends with Russia and screw the world over economically, all the more power to him, but this idiot (If he is to be believed) want's to invade Libya, Iraq, Syria, Nigeria, Egypt, Somalia, and who knows however many other countries IS have expanded into with American ground troops (which will cost TENS of trillions of dollars to fund) whilst his able bodied Son remains behind with the women. That to me is, one, not a sign of leadership and, two, something that could very easily lead to WW3.

 

We are not living in the middle ages were people can go around exterminating half the planet... HD videos and photo's will flood the internet and carefully document every crime committed by America (for all time) and inspire attacks that will make Trump forget about 9/11... not to mention the fact that there are predominately Muslim majority countries with nukes like Pakistan, with state of the art fighter jets/tanks/artillery/missiles like Turkey/Gulf countries/Egypt etc and i really don't think they will take too kindly to an extremely overt attempt at global extermination by America. Heck even the lame UN might even actually do something for once in it's crappy existence (not that we should hold our breath on that one). All in all his FA policy (if it's to be believed and not some ruse to get Hillary into office) is that of an adolescent child who doesn't know how the world works and the consequences of certain actions.

 

My point exactly. Those three are so weak why would Clinton need some elaborate and expensive ruse, making use of a man (Trump) who would change the deal if he saw something better (actually becoming President)? It makes no sense.

 

You're salty the tag team of Trump and Putin will eliminate ISIS in short order, yes we know. You don't care about all the civilians ISIS kills barbarically so why should your sudden empathy be taken seriously? ISIS doesn't need that much effort spent against them don't be silly. They're losing in Syria even after having the west conspiring against Assad for years including attacks from the so called "moderates". America and Russia have been working against each other since forever, including of course with the Islamist fanatics who America and their lapdog allies have helped. The moment America starts working with Russia (for real) on the matter it'll start getting sorted quickly enough. 

[Princess Bubblegum]

Now America's got a chance to be great again.

[Moreau]

My point exactly. Those three are so weak why would Clinton need some elaborate and expensive ruse, making use of a man (Trump) who would change the deal if he saw something better (actually becoming President)? It makes no sense.

 

The simple answer to that is because there are a shit-load of republicans in America who believe in the filthy ideals upheld by those three candidates, but now Trump has come along and taken the whole Republican party down the toilet (republican favorability rating of the republican party went down a staggering 11% during the primary election) whilst he himself ascended his way to the top of the toilet seat. Just look at the disgusting manner in which he speaks about members of his own party... doesn't he know that will damage the party as a whole and not just those individual candidates or that he is inadvertently insulting the republicans voting for those particular candidates (there is a reason why #NeverTrump is trending among many republicans)? I'm sure he's aware and that this is all a ploy to secure his BFF Hillary's presidential election. 

 

You're salty the tag team of Trump and Putin will eliminate ISIS in short order, yes we know. You don't care about all the civilians ISIS kills barbarically so why should your sudden empathy be taken seriously? ISIS doesn't need that much effort spent against them don't be silly. They're losing in Syria even after having the west conspiring against Assad for years including attacks from the so called "moderates". America and Russia have been working against each other since forever, including of course with the Islamist fanatics who America and their lapdog allies have helped. The moment America starts working with Russia (for real) on the matter it'll start getting sorted quickly enough. 

 

All you think about is Syria when the issue is much broader and far more complex than that but whatever, keep living your fantasy I guess. 

Edited May 4, 2016 by Moreau III

[Rozalia]

The simple answer to that is because there are a shit-load of republicans in America who believe in the filthy ideals upheld by those three candidates, but now Trump has come along and taken the whole Republican party down the toilet (republican favorability rating of the republican party went down a staggering 11% during the primary election) whilst he himself ascended his way to the top of the toilet seat. Just look at the disgusting manner in which he speaks about members of his own party... doesn't he know that will damage the party as a whole and not just those individual candidates or that he is inadvertently insulting the republicans voting for those particular candidates (there is a reason why #NeverTrump is trending among many republicans)? I'm sure he's aware and that this is all a ploy to secure his BFF Hillary's presidential election. 

 

 

All you think about is Syria when the issue is much broader and far more complex than that but whatever, keep living your fantasy I guess. 

 

Again, I've already told you why your conspiracy theory is absurd. At no level does it work unless Trump is actually very charitable and subservient to Clinton, when you know, he's also apparently all about that patriarchy and keeping women down according to the same people who say that.

Of course their favourablity (not exactly the most popular bunch to begin with) tanked, they've been savaged heavily by Trump. Jeb! was the Uncrowned King and Trump reduced him to a joke. Rubio was "the future" and Trump exposed him as a boy playing at being a man. Cruz tried to play the role of the outsider and Trump exposed him as an insider, worse an insider who even the rest of the insiders despise. The party establishment was so willing to do anything to stop Trump they made themselves easy pickings to be called corrupt, same as the Democrat establishment for that matter

The Republicans will now rally around Trump and all the shots will start going Hillary's way. With Trump being the focus point for futile counter attacks I mean what can Hillary hit him with exactly? Nothing works. Trump spends the least, gets hit with the most, and still wins.

 

Their main base is in Syria/Iraq, once that crumbles the rest will make for easy pickings. Harder to make people believe in your coming victories if you've lost large amounts of lands in your "home turf". 

Edited May 4, 2016 by Rozalia

[Moreau]

Again, I've already told you why your conspiracy theory is absurd. At no level does it work unless Trump is actually very charitable and subservient to Clinton, when you know, he's also apparently all about that patriarchy and keeping women down according to the same people who say that.

Of course their favourablity (not exactly the most popular bunch to begin with) tanked, they've been savaged heavily by Trump. Jeb! was the Uncrowned King and Trump reduced him to a joke. Rubio was "the future" and Trump exposed him as a boy playing at being a man. Cruz tried to play the role of the outsider and Trump exposed him as an insider, worse an insider who even the rest of the insiders despise. The party establishment was so willing to do anything to stop Trump they made themselves easy pickings to be called corrupt, same as the Democrat establishment for that matter

The Republicans will now rally around Trump and all the shots will start going Hillary's way. With Trump being the focus point for futile counter attacks I mean what can Hillary hit him with exactly? Nothing works. Trump spends the least, gets hit with the most, and still wins.

 

It's far from a conspiracy when you take a look at all the facts. The Democratic party (supported by Trump previously with funds) was already larger than the Republican party prior to the primary elections and the difference is even larger now thanks to the destructive tactics employed by - political saboteur - Donald Trump.

 

Hillary's main competition has been Bernie Sanders and not only have they not focused on smear tactics but Bernie is very likely to endorse Hillary come the general elections. The same can not be said of Trump's main rivals Cruz, Rubio, and Jeb (maybe even Kasich too) who almost certainly will not be endorsing him no matter what. 

 

Their main base is in Syria/Iraq, once that crumbles the rest will make for easy pickings. Harder to make people believe in your coming victories if you've lost large amounts of lands in your "home turf". 

 

IS is not really about holding any specific territory, as long as they have some territory somewhere on earth they are golden, and even if they don't they will just revert back to gorilla tactics until they can get a hold of a piece of land in which to set-up base again for further expansion.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Moreau III

[SoS]

I'd like to believe this is a conspiracy and not a sign of mass idiocy. We have to end this disastrous two party system.

 

I can't stand Trump or hrc, or anyone else that ran.

[Moreau]

I'd like to believe this is a conspiracy and not a sign of mass idiocy. We have to end this disastrous two party system.

 

I can't stand Trump or hrc, or anyone else that ran.

 

I personally view it as a one-party system.

 

The whole elections look rigged, and the candidates like actors putting on a show.

 

Edited May 4, 2016 by Moreau III

[Rozalia]

 

It's far from a conspiracy when you take a look at all the facts. The Democratic party (supported by Trump previously with funds) was already larger than the Republican party prior to the primary elections and the difference is even larger now thanks to the destructive tactics employed by - political saboteur - Donald Trump.

 

Hillary's main competition has been Bernie Sanders and not only have they not focused on smear tactics but Bernie is very likely to endorse Hillary come the general elections. The same can not be said of Trump's main rivals Cruz, Rubio, and Jeb (maybe even Kasich too) who almost certainly will not be endorsing him no matter what. 

 

 

IS is not really about holding any specific territory, as long as they have some territory somewhere on earth they are golden, and even if they don't they will just revert back to gorilla tactics until they can get a hold of a piece of land in which to set-up base again for further expansion.

 

 

That so? Democratic turn out is down. Republican turn out is way up (due to Trump). That how sabotage works? Getting many more people interested in the competition?

 

You say it as if it's a good thing, in fact it's quite the gift Sanders has given Trump. Had he attacked Clinton months ago with the easy shots people would have forgotten them come the election, or at the very least they'd be less effective. Thanks to good old Bernie being so weak Trump still has a mountain of ammo to hit Clinton with. Meanwhile Clinton has... what exactly that hasn't been thrown at Trump yet? 

 

What makes you think Bernie Sanders endorsing Hillary and handing over his war chest will be such a positive? I guarantee many of his supporters will cry betrayal over that and either give Trump a vote by staying home, or give Trump two votes by voting for him. 

 

I disagree. They can continue to exist certainly, but once their source of prestige is shattered they'll start to fade out especially as it'll undoubtedly lead to the death of their leader. 

 

I'd like to believe this is a conspiracy and not a sign of mass idiocy. We have to end this disastrous two party system.

 

I can't stand Trump or hrc, or anyone else that ran.

 

You say this in an election that has had two prominent anti-establishment candidates, one a Socialist and another a Nationalist.

[SoS]

They know their audience too well.

 

Bern is only a step further left than Obama wanted to be. And, Trump is a WWE personality whooping at rednecks.

 

No good option sums up this election cycle. Not even the old adage of lesser of two evils. Just plain garbage.

Edited May 4, 2016 by SoS

[Moreau]

You say this in an election that has had two prominent anti-establishment candidates, one a Socialist and another a Nationalist.

 

Actors putting on a show (like your wrestling Rozalia) and making it seem like there is an actual democracy when such a thing doesn't exist. 

 

They all have the same policy of imperialism and will carry on from wherever the previous guy left off. Just look at Obama who ran on an Anti-Bush ticket but was very much like Bush in terms of foreign policy when he came to power and to some extent was even worse. 

Edited May 4, 2016 by Moreau III

[Moreau]

That so? Democratic turn out is down. Republican turn out is way up (due to Trump). That how sabotage works? Getting many more people interested in the competition?

 

That's probably because the race between Hillary and Bernie is not as emotionally charged as the chaos being created by Trump over in the republican corner but all that will change come general election. 

 

You say it as if it's a good thing, in fact it's quite the gift Sanders has given Trump. Had he attacked Clinton months ago with the easy shots people would have forgotten them come the election, or at the very least they'd be less effective. Thanks to good old Bernie being so weak Trump still has a mountain of ammo to hit Clinton with. Meanwhile Clinton has... what exactly that hasn't been thrown at Trump yet? 

 

Nah because then her favour-ability rating would have tanked and it would have made her an easier target for Trump who now actually has to work really hard to bring it down. It's also not as easy for Trump in the general elections as most of the people aren't republicans and don't identify with most of his positions at all. That's where Trump needs to put on the diplomatic lingo and start dancing to a completely different tune in-order to survive and win people over but I don't think he's capable of that. 

 

What makes you think Bernie Sanders endorsing Hillary and handing over his war chest will be such a positive? I guarantee many of his supporters will cry betrayal over that and either give Trump a vote by staying home, or give Trump two votes by voting for him. 

 

Most of his supporters are the ones crashing Trump's rallies and I think his endorsement of Hillary will be more against Trump than for her. 

 

I disagree. They can continue to exist certainly, but once their source of prestige is shattered they'll start to fade out especially as it'll undoubtedly lead to the death of their leader. 

 

Regarding prestige: IS existed and was waging a very successful gorilla insurgency against American troops in Iraq well before they had any major success in terms of securing territory, resources, and weapons. They can very easily return back to that stage with ease and bide their time for the perfect opportunity to go back to seizing territory, resources, and weapons. 

 

Regarding loss of leadership: Most of IS's leadership changes have happened due to those leader being killed so I highly doubt a temporary loss of leadership will have any effect on them as there is a huge pool of candidates waiting to fill that role at a moments notice. Not to mention their entire organisation is highly decentralised and doesn't require top-down micro management. 

Edited May 4, 2016 by Moreau III

[Clarke]

I wouldn't listen to this ISIS lover. 

[Moreau]

I wouldn't listen to this ISIS lover. 

[Clarke]

[Rozalia]

That's probably because the race between Hillary and Bernie is not as emotionally charged as the chaos being created by Trump over in the republican corner but all that will change come general election. 

 

Not quite. Bernie also had a "movement" and it didn't make the Democrats shoot through the roof, indicating if he wasn't there the numbers would be even worse.

 

Nah because then her favour-ability rating would have tanked and it would have made her an easier target for Trump who now actually has to work really hard to bring it down. It's also not as easy for Trump in the general elections as most of the people aren't republicans and don't identify with most of his positions at all. That's where Trump needs to put on the diplomatic lingo and start dancing to a completely different tune in-order to survive and win people over but I don't think he's capable of that. 

 

What are you on about? Such rating for her are already bad even with Sanders giving her the easiest possible ride. As our Trumps of course, but the key difference is he's been getting attacked heavily for months while Clinton has not... she can only go down as a result while Trump's will improve. Your talk that'll be really hard, if you actually believe that (I doubt it) is at Clintonbot (many which she has bought by the way) levels of delusion. I remember seeing a Clinton rep say just that, that Clinton had been aggressively attacked by Sanders (lol) and that nothing worked.

 

#NeverTrump of the Conservatives was always a joke and will fizzle out in a month and they'll fall behind Trump. Trump will mention the importance of the supreme court a couple of times, important Conservative guys will then further stress it, and job done. 

 

??? What? Trump's main issue with the establishment is he's too liberal for them. In fact he will be to the left of Clinton so what does it matter if "most of the people aren't republicans"? He doesn't even need to "move left" as some say considering he's already there. I blame the thinking that if you're on the right in an issue like immigration then you're on the right in everything, it's nonsense. He's pulling in Democrats, Independents, even Bernie's Socialists are going with Trump. Trump may not be perfect for them but be it anti-Immigration, anti-globalisation, anti-establishment, or any other stance Trump has there is something really attractive for them. Clinton offers none of that, she's bought and paid and every man on the street knows it. 

 

Most of his supporters are the ones crashing Trump's rallies and I think his endorsement of Hillary will be more against Trump than for her. 

 

There are reports of it being a frame job, perhaps not always but I have no doubt Clinton's backers such as Soros and company have done such things to attack Trump and make Sanders look bad. Ads paying people to attend, telling them to dress and bring signs for Sanders, many of such people being black (when Sanders has had a serious problem getting black supporters). Sanders could have killed such things dead if he stated he wouldn't tolerate it, but he was too busy pandering to minorities at that point. 

 

Regarding prestige: IS existed and was waging a very successful gorilla insurgency against American troops in Iraq well before they had any major success in terms of securing territory, resources, and weapons. They can very easily return back to that stage with ease and bide their time for the perfect opportunity to go back to seizing territory, resources, and weapons. 

 

Regarding loss of leadership: Most of IS's leadership changes have happened due to those leader being killed so I highly doubt a temporary loss of leadership will have any effect on them as there is a huge pool of candidates waiting to fill that role at a moments notice. Not to mention their entire organisation is highly decentralised and doesn't require top-down micro management. 

 

They've got a number of groups under their banner because they're "winners" and when they're losers those groups will abandon them, simple. I don't think you realise what America and Russia together can accomplish when they're not working against each other like currently. 

[Hodor]

Because more bombs definitely beats guerilla groups... There is a reason why non-conventional tactics in asymmetric warfare is the go-to strategy against world powers mate.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Hodor

[Clarke]

Because more bombs definitely beats guerilla groups... There is a reason why non-conventional tactics in asymmetric warfare is the go-to strategy against world powers mate.

Nukes. 

[Vahak]

Trump winning was already likely, Cruz was eliminated weeks ago, he just realized. 

[Doktor Avalanche]

Both have a chance to take the position of POTUS.

This is going to continue being an ugly, hate-filled, half-truth spouting, despicable political race.

I am seriously considering turning off all news outlets because this election cycle is the worst I have seen in history. I would rather watch Madagascar's Parliament throw spears at each other than put up with watching Trump or Clinton debate.