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This battle is nonsense and not done properly. 

 

The Viet Cong have much more manpower but the battleground is completely illogical and would dull their want to battle. ISIS are fanatics that can fight with all their fervor virtually anywhere on the planet, while the Viet Cong are based on Liberation and would only fight at their best in Vietnam. 

 

Neither is a force that fights open battles against other armies so neither would be able to force a battle making it a protracted affair. The teleported Viet Cong would be stranded and without food so they'd have to pillage and butcher the nearby areas, ISIS having no actual home base they must at all costs defend can simply keep retreating. 

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Vietcong stood their ground against the USA and Islamic State Mujahideen have stood their ground against a 60+ coalition of countries (including the United Snakes of America).

 

Vietcong mastered Irregular warfare and Islamic State Mujahideen mastered Hybrid warfare (conventional warfare, irregular warfare and cyberwarfare).

 

Vietcong would lose even if the fight was happening in Vietnam... especially if it's was a one on one fight. 

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if the mighty vietcong went and had to fight isis. what happens? 

 

ISIS would win because vietcong is too small to stand against them.

 

How about a better one:

 

If mexican drug cartels went war against ISIS, who will win?

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ISIS would win because vietcong is too small to stand against them.

 

How about a better one:

 

If mexican drug cartels went war against ISIS, who will win?

 

The Viet cong were at the lowest estimates near 500,000, a million plus if you go to the highest. 

 

ISIS also has varying listed numbers with the lowest at 20,000 and the highest at 200,000. I don't believe the high figure is accurate as it no doubt takes into account local policemen and such, but even were it accurate ISIS are outnumbered.

 

Vietcong stood their ground against the USA and Islamic State Mujahideen have stood their ground against a 60+ coalition of countries (including the United Snakes of America).

 

Vietcong would lose even if the fight was happening in Vietnam... especially if it's was a one on one fight. 

 

Nonsense. The Vietcong had to deal with an enemy (America) who was willing to do whatever it took to take them out including ground troops. ISIS are not dealing with a 60+ coalition as everyone knows all of those European countries joined hands (on their knees) with America are a joke and a non factor. Additionally America has been one of the top helpers for ISIS and their attacks have been purposely anemic considering they could have cut off much of ISIS's money as the Russian's have been doing years ago for one example. 

 

I get that fighting for a country is a foreign concept to a religious fanatic such as yourself, but the fervor the Vietcong would have would outweigh ISIS's. ISIS's headchopping, slavery, pedophilia, and all their other evil acts are well known and that would only motivate the Vietcong in fighting back the filth that is ISIS.

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Nonsense. The Vietcong had to deal with an enemy (America) who was willing to do whatever it took to take them out including ground troops. 

We were pulled out by damn hippies before we were finished. 

 

My solution to the problem would be to tell [the North Vietnamese Communists] frankly that they've got to draw in their horns and stop their aggression or we're going to bomb them into the Stone Age. And we would shove them back into the Stone Age with Air power or Naval power—not with ground forces.

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We were pulled out by damn hippies before we were finished. 

 

Yes but it doesn't change the fact they had to deal with a implacable America for a good while. ISIS has never had to deal with that, only anemic limp attacks for the press to report as them doing something. Were America to actually give it some welly ISIS wouldn't last a fortnight, let alone a month.

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Rozalia - It would help if you would actually go and do some research for once.

 

1. Islamic State existed as "Al Qaeda in Iraq" when hundreds of thousands of American ground troops were occupying Iraq and they could not defeat AQI.

 

2. Islamic State is currently fighting a winning war against both the Syrian and Iraqi armies SIMULTANEOUSLY, not to mention every single armed rebel faction in Syria, as well as various well armed Shia Death Squads funded by Iran, and Kurdish terrorists like the YPG and PKK.... all this whilst being bombed from the air by hundreds of modern aircraft's and being hunted by intelligence services/special forces from dozens of countries.

 

3. Islamic State is highly experienced in fighting forces motivated by "nationalism" and has come out on the winning side of that fight every time. 

 

The only chance the Vietcong would have of delaying imminent and swift destruction at the hands of the Islamic State would be if outside superpowers came in to support them.

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Rozalia - It would help if you would actually go and do some research for once.

 

1. Islamic State existed as "Al Qaeda in Iraq" when hundreds of thousands of American ground troops were occupying Iraq and they could not defeat AQI.

 

2. Islamic State is currently fighting a winning war against both the Syrian and Iraqi armies SIMULTANEOUSLY, not to mention every single armed rebel faction in Syria, as well as various well armed Shia Death Squads funded by Iran, and Kurdish terrorists like the YPG and PKK.... all this whilst being bombed from the air by hundreds of modern aircraft's and being hunted by intelligence services/special forces from dozens of countries.

 

3. Islamic State is highly experienced in fighting forces motivated by "nationalism" and has come out on the winning side of that fight every time. 

 

The only chance the Vietcong would have of delaying imminent and swift destruction at the hands of the Islamic State would be if outside superpowers came in to support them.

 

Your fanboyism of ISIS of all things overrides any ounce of intelligence you might have clearly. Normally people do this over football teams, games, characters, and so on but you do it over genocidal Islamic fanatics, bless. 

 

1: No that is nowhere near what the Vietcong had to fight, America has always been anemic in the middle east.

 

2: Except you know in Syria they had assistance via America's personal lunatics, the "moderates". Assad for a good while wasn't even fighting ISIS because he has to put down America's jihadists. Iraq isn't even a country anymore so making armies of theirs flee is no big deal.

 

3: No, Arab countries by the large are states drawn up in Britain and have no real sense of nationalism. It's been tried of course by certain men, all who America wants the heads of (if they don't have already), but Iraq nationalist? Please, it's not even a country anymore. Syria is closer but American effort has seen to the degrading of it because why not I suppose. There is a reason you had to put it in quotation marks.

 

This is ultimately why your talk of ISIS being a state is nonsense, a fiefdom sure but a state? No. The people have no sense of nationalism or national fraternity for it to be a state, just a fiefdom ruled by religious lunatics nothing more.

 

lol Daesh are getting their asses kicked by the Kurds.

Get off your rocker

 

ISIS would defeat Russia or America if they deployed ground forces against them going by his crowing. His ISIS Senpais are the ultimate fighting force in Ibrahim's eyes for obvious reasons. 

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lol Daesh are getting their asses kicked by the Kurds.

Get off your rocker

 

The Kurdish terrorists known as the YPG/PKK were being soundly defeated by small groups of Islamic State Mujahideen who took vast amounys territory from them in just WEEKS and were on the verge of completely capturing Ayn Al Islam or "Kobane" before the American led coalition came to the aid of the Kurdish terrorists and carpet bombed positions held by the Islamic State Mujahideen (killing tens of thousands of Kurdish civilians in the process and destroying vital infrastructure).

 

This was Ayn Al Islam or "Kobane" before and after the American led coalitions air-strikes:

 

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This is what dealing minor tactical setbacks to the Islamic State looks like: Superpowers have to intervene and completely destroy the town/city.

 

Now residents in Ayn Al Islam or "Kobane" are forced to travel to Al-Raqqah (The capital of the Islamic State) in order to receive medical care: Source.

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The Kurdish terrorists known as the YPG/PKK were being soundly defeated by small groups of Islamic State Mujahideen who took vast amounys territory from them in just WEEKS and were on the verge of completely capturing Ayn Al Islam or "Kobane" before the American led coalition came to the aid of the Kurdish terrorists and carpet bombed positions held by the Islamic State Mujahideen (killing tens of thousands of Kurdish civilians in the process and destroying vital infrastructure).

 

This was Ayn Al Islam or "Kobane" before and after the American led coalitions air-strikes:

 

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This is what dealing minor tactical setbacks to the Islamic State looks like: Superpowers have to intervene and completely destroy the town/city.

 

Now residents in Ayn Al Islam or "Kobane" are forced to travel to Al-Raqqah (The capital of the Islamic State) in order to receive medical care: Source.

Look kid, do you even know the definition of "Carpet Bombing"?  If not:   http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/carpet%20bomb.  The pictures you show don't quite fit that definition.  Looks more like highly precise strikes taking out specific targets to me.  Now....as to the tens of thousands you claim were taken in these bombing.....I highly doubt it.  I'd figure the number more like in the "Tens".  It doesn't even look like tens of thousands would be in those 2 areas combined.  Hell, when the trade centers went down, in one of the most populated cities in the world, just under 3000 people died.  Not sure where you get your information from, but it seems to be flawed.

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The Kurdish terrorists known as the YPG/PKK were being soundly defeated by small groups of Islamic State Mujahideen who took vast amounys territory from them in just WEEKS and were on the verge of completely capturing Ayn Al Islam or "Kobane" before the American led coalition came to the aid of the Kurdish terrorists and carpet bombed positions held by the Islamic State Mujahideen (killing tens of thousands of Kurdish civilians in the process and destroying vital infrastructure).

 

John Harms has already eviscerated you but the highlighted bit is quite the laugh. The ISIS supporter thinks he has any authority to label others terrorists.

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If the Vietcong went to the dessert to fight ISIS they would all die. That's what would happen.

 

Next dumb thread please.

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