[GW 15 War Stat Tracker]

9 hours ago, Hodor said:

 better fix this.

This is just how I show @evilpiggyfoofoo my love.  A prank on a personal level because piggy do be piggy.  #CaleopeBetterThanPiggy

I had no other intention in mind.  

[The World Rots in Conflict.]

3 hours ago, Sir Scarfalot said:

is learn how to wage war properly

Or... even pixel-hug properly.  Look at those wasted production bonuses.  7/7/5 mines instead of maxing out at 10 for the +50% sighs.

Imagine not even just not fighting back, but failing at that as well.  

 

[Hedge Money Announcement]

If anyone is interested, in tiering comparisons.

[Onward Together]

On 8/16/2020 at 9:31 PM, Insert Name Here said:

Getting rolled isn't so bad, I was in the shit tier during that entire war while IQ used and then double crossed any alliance they could. Y'all should either have booted Under and distance yourselves before it was too late or simply support him till the end.

Honestly, this.  I mean in its past 3 wars, TKR eventually got rolled all three times.  We're stronger because of it.  Mostly everyone here has made mistakes, and–to some degree or another–mostly everyone has paid for them in some way.  A large part of accepting responsibility for actions is also accepting the consequences.  If you do get rolled and you bounce back even stronger, you'll earn respect and have new paths open up to your FA.  And I'm unaware of anyone who would subject you to what we were subjected to last war.  A few weeks and a decent bit of pixels destroyed.  
This is also why I think the original post rings so hollow.  I understand that y'all claim the timing is simply unfortunate, but, given your history and position, y'all don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt.  I'm not sure what you expected Orbis to think besides that this is a naked move to protect your hides, the SAME sort of behavior that got UPN in trouble in the first place.  Pixel-hugging is antithetical to what I'd want to achieve if I were in your shoes.  

Now to be clear, this isn't an open endorsement to roll UPN, but I thought the context was important enough to add.  The first steps towards taking responsibility are quitting with the pansy "shoulda-coulda-woulda" excuses, starting to acknowledge what you did wrong, and showing the rest of Orbis how you plan to fix it.  You didn't accomplish any of that here.  And maybe that gets you rolled, but you'll come out the other end with your community intact and a whole potential future to explore.  

I mean it wasn't that long ago that most of the world had issues with TKR and decided to hit us in KF.  I like to think that we've learned a lot since, and I know we're in a much better spot from an FA perspective despite having made missteps.  There are many other alliances that have similar stories.  It is up to you guys to make it happen and turn over a new leaf.  Until that point, you can damn expect that you'll be subjected to intense scrutiny.  Fix it and be better.  Maybe then we can talk.

That's about the extent of the good faith I have to offer you guys.

7 hours ago, Nokia Rokia said:

@Benfro @Mitsuru as 2 people ive never met nor spoken to i care not for what you have to say about me and as for Citrusk and Cooper they may be your friends however that means you should easily be aware of the public image they hold 
when 60% of the game thinks your toxic your probs toxic and most people dont call me toxic they call me idiotic or eccentric or shady not toxic 

I was going to ignore this as I don't really care what you have to say about me.  My reputation speaks for itself.  I don't have the time of day to worry about someone getting salty about having his one-man AA denied protection.  But insulting a leader of one of my protectorates goes too far.  Having worked with him for months, I can say that all of us in TKR are proud to have Citrus and Oceania as a protectorate.  He, along with the Oceania team, have done great work in a building a community, and that's everything I ask of them.  

I have no desire to get into the specifics of your troubled history or to see this exchange continued.  Desist and bring your comments elsewhere.  Say whatever you want about me, but don't f@#k around with my allies.  I take that seriously, and I'm not as easygoing when it comes to protecting them.  

[Onward Together]

58 minutes ago, Alexio15 said:

Can't wait to see what happens couldn't happen to a better alliance.

In the meantime, I'll take a NAP.

Sorry, I'll show myself out.

[Onward Together]

38 minutes ago, Matt2004 said:

~snip~

Given the timing, this seems like a last-minute publicity stunt.  It's action not forum announcements that will change the minds of Orbis.  I honestly hope you prove me wrong.

[World Ellie Day]

Live action feed of the purple ellie in action. 

[Winter is Coming]

10 minutes ago, Mikey said:

On the one hand, I can get behind overthrowing Squeegee. On the other hand, when I retake my rightful throne, any remaining rebels might do well to remember what happened to the last few "Kings" in the North...

Yes! @Squeegee the rightful king has returned.  Think of all the windows that you'll have time to clean.
@Darth Ataxia I'm willing to be your Lady Olenna and Purple Wedding the sh*t out of SK if you can guarantee that Tommon Mikey will take his rightful place.
 

[[Bloc] Episode IV - A New Hope]

22 minutes ago, Daveth said:

House Stark is an independent kingdom within Westeros, and has no affiliation with the Six Kingdoms whatsoever.

As much as it pains me to say this, I've been forced by treaty obligation to claim Mikey Squeegee as the true king in the north.  

[[Bloc] Episode IV - A New Hope]

Congratulations on the new bloc.  I hope you guys protect @Asierith well.  

[$yndicate Bu$ine$$week Exclu$ive: Wolf of Wall Street Liquidates Company Assets]

Enjoy productivity Leo.  Gratz to Adam for being the new Canadian.  

[Is there any fascist alliance in politicsandwar?]

I'm way too lazy to read all of this, but fwiw the concept of some idealized racial and ethnic is the foundation of fascism.  Fascism is only functional insofar as ethnonationalism is enforced.  People buy into the rigid social structure, bigotry and economic controls for some semblance of its "for the party" or "for the country."  This presents as some master race like the aryans in Germany, or–with your beloved Franco–the brutal crusade against the 'Jewish Masons' and the 'Moorish communists.'  Fascism is inherently a gateway to allowing bigotry, and I've got the lineage to understand that personally.  Understanding that institutional oppression towards "the other" enshrined in fascism will help you to understand why it's mostly not tolerated in Orbis even if it's allowed.  

Speaking from experience, the models that do best here are meritocratic and usually authoritarian/benevolent dictator-type of governments.  If you're here for fascism, you're pushing the wrong level, and I'd suggest you reevaluate your priorities.  It's not a joke to some people to even RP prejudice, racism or any ideology presenting some form of structural violence as a tent.  

[6/28/2020 - War Slot Filling, Removing Beige]

Hi @Alex, I appreciate the answer you gave us on the reasons explaining your decisions, but I was hoping to add a few factors for your consideration which you may or may not have  included in your original analysis:
A) This completely breaks down the war system.  Without beige, first-strike advantage is enormous as all you need to do is hold down your opponent, who has no chance of building back up.  For some troop categories, you can only get 40% back with a double buy.  Combined with the recent score change mechanics, you can't even use low military to your advantage.  Part of the game has always been about competency in understanding the mechanics and strategizing around them, but now it seems like the goal is just to have the most button-pushers on one side blitzkrieg-ing someone else.  
B ) This will destroy the raid economy.  A lot of the looting and raiding that occurs at the lower tiers is only possible because beige time allows nations to build-up resources.  This sorely hurts newer nations whose economies are largely dependent on raiding, and by extension, the game economy will suffer with resource prices shooting up as a major source of excess resources is effectively diminished.

C)  This will greatly increase member attrition.  During war, one of the largest contributors to the loss of members from alliances and from the game is extended periods of time of not being able to do anything.  We saw that with last war, avoiding beiges–at great effort to implement I might add–incentivized people to go inactive and leave.  Now, we're getting rid of that protection, so anyone can hold another down indefinitely.  This allows for an even worse abuse of mechanics than the last war, and the consequences on the game will potentially be grave.  

D) As a meta note, we aren't giving enough warning or input on decisions like this.  I've noticed that you've put up votes before, and have tried the democratic approach.  We all appreciated that, but in such a large decision as this, none of the community at-large seemed to be apprised.  That is disappointing, to say the least.  I'd like to think we, as a whole, should be involved in the decision-making and path of the game.  Giving us warning and room for discussion can help to calm uproars like the one here.

Thanks for listening.  

Hopefully, it helps o7  

[Adri Out!]

8 minutes ago, Adrienne said:

This is terrifying

You're the one who posted a gif of someone mic-dropping a cucumber.  

[Adri Out!]

We'll miss you Niz.  Rest easy o7

 

All hail King Ben of Fro!

[[Treaty] An Oath Stronger Than Valyrian Steel]

Damn't we did it again.

[[Announcement] Moving Forward]

28 minutes ago, Kiloist II said:

The Queen has spoken. All hail Ri

Let us out of the basement.  Please, I'm begging here.

[Are we willing to forgive?]

I don't feel like the OWR-Cam beef is the best way to put Cam in a good light @Abbas Mehdi lol.  That being said, I've known @King Arthur longer and perhaps better than most of you.  I think we had the first embassy with them outside of SCX-sphere (at the time), I've worked closely running a bank for him, and I count him as a friend.  

From all of my experiences with them, I gathered that the war and the war plans CB was not something they were a part of.  It was a situation they were thrown into.  On the other hand, they're a loyal bunch and stuck by their allies for quite a while.  I think they ran out of resources very, very early on, and they still stayed in the war.  Yet as the war continued, it is true that Cam was a moderate actor but that moderation in the face of no influence translated into a lack of results.  IIRC, the biggest fear Cam had was retribution and a lack of protection if they left the war.  They were willing to leave along with TcW and co in that new bloc until things got complicated by the BoC/NP shenanigans.

I don't think its right to absolve them of all guilt, but, at the same time, this is an alliance who tried to be loyal to its allies and protect its community without real the influence or access of IQ mainstays or people like Under and Sphinx.  I can somewhat relate to that struggle even if I don't exactly agree with how they handled it.  And frankly there is a lot more sincerity in Cam's experience than other alliances who left with the tide or simply wanted to hug pixels with the upper tier.  They have their work cut out for them, but I think that was inherent in their treaty with Rose.  A step forward for Cam and for changing the political dynamic.  

To be clear though, I don't think pushing the IQ shtick helps anyone (that's mostly aimed at @Epi who I'm hoping guessing is trolling).  And the SCX raiding policy carbon copy is a bad look as I've expressed privately.  

[Are we willing to forgive?]

I think it's a bit naive to say that we should forget the past.  Last war really sucked.  In terms of players lost, disbandments, and pettiness, it is unparalleled.  And that same past should and hopefully will inform the future on how to prevent such conditions from being recreated.  I don't ever want to relive that again, and I'm sure others don't either.  People will keep their eyes out for actors who seem liable of repeating those mistakes.  To be clear though, I'm not advocating war–I abhor the idea of personal grudge-based warfare–but the idea of failing to recognize and learn from history might be just as worrisome.

[SNN-Big Trouble in Little Keegoz]

As an aside (from a somewhat objective onlooker), I believe this whole piece of drama to be not worth most people's time.  Its mainly receiving attention by virtue of the dearth of drama that a 6-month NAP provides.  Further, I personally have no stake in this, and this is just my individual view on what is being shown.  Feel free to correct me if the limited information available warps this perspective.  

But to briefly bite on what's going on, it would seem that Sphinx and Odin, based on the facts presented in the log, have a somewhat legitimate point on being owed a considerable amount of money and resources.  If I were in that position, I'd want my money back.  Now, life happens, and it's later explained by Aku that NP financials had a tough go of it, so you open up for a compromise.  I think Sphinx/Odin attempted to do that.  But that's about where they being in the right ends.  

One thing the last war taught us is that without a semblance of trust or good faith, things won't go anywhere.  Leaking, harboring leakers, and/or a lack of sufficient communication on those actions can facilitate such distrust.  It makes it really hard to strike a deal or to even have productive conversations.  Keegoz and Kev have a valid gripe there, and I don't know if I'd feel differently in their shoes.  

I feel like that cliche parenting line where you tell your kid that "you went from right to wrong by..."  Unfortunately, that's the case here.  Here's a suggestion: go back to DMs and try to listen to each other before dirty laundry gets dumped on here.  This is already a toxic place filled with pettiness, and getting the satisfaction of the circle jerk or faux outrage is not going to solve your problems.  Constructive conversations will.  

At the end of the day, I think it's important to note that whatever the result is and wherever your personal grudges lie, hundreds if not thousands of players rest on your decisions.  I wish y'all the best of luck of figuring this out.  I hope–for the sake of a deeper level of politics–you do.

[5/14/2020 - 4 New Projects, Nation Score Change, and more]

@Alex

Hi, there seems to be a bug with bauxite production.  I think it still calculates the production bonus from the base of 6 mines versus 10.  

Just some simple math here to figure this out:

4946 * 3 * 1.3889 - 1600 = 19008.4982

23624.6 + 1600 = 25224.6 -> 25224.6/(4946*3) = 1.7 or 70% bonus

 

I'm not sure if this was intended or not, but I didn't get that from your report and there's still the inconsistency with the shown bonus production value.

This will significantly affect how we approach our builds, so any comments/fixes on this would be really appreciated.  Thank you in advance.

 

[[TREATY] Excalibur is a Lightsaber???]

Ok @Mhearl... @King Arthur was my fwend before yours.  
Congratulations though ❤️.  

[[RoH] EXTRA! EXTRA! Read All About It!]

Shout to Rose for showing y’all what it means to be an ally.  Your chicanery with IF was disappointing to say the least.  

Please be better.   

[$yndicate missive on recent events]

I’d just like to point out that these events in their entirety should make no one happy.  It’s really disappointing all around, and we ought to maintain that solemnity.  I, for one, will not engage in hitting my enemies while they’re down.  Thank @Prefonteen for responding appropriately o7.

 

Hopefully,  we can move on from the past and make a future where we don’t repeat these mistakes.  

[God have mercy on Orbis]

4 minutes ago, Caleope said:

Welcome back from the dead! Have fun storming the castle

Don't give this guy the time of day, Cal.

Note that I have no sympathy for TMC nor what they represent, but Minesome here is an edgy troll who uses Nazi language and symbols that make people uncomfortable even when called out on it.  
That doesn't even begin to mention how he stole OPSEC sheets and documents from TMC and attempted to leverage them against them while hiding in BoC-affiliated alliances.  Yeah, he's in large part responsible for this whole second wind of the war for actions that aren't too dissimilar to the bank thefts your coalition claims to be against.  

He should rightfully be ignored and left in hapless ignominy.