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One of the terms must have been SRD has to make the forum post. Only way he would put so much effort.

When have I called Oasis an emerging Hegemony? It is important to note, never. Even when I gave you guys the gears over signing CAM I did not do so. I called you the blob or Swamp 2.0 if memory serves me correct. Here is the thing, my comments about Oasis at that time was based upon the frustration that is Oasis/Swamp doing the same thing over and over again but claiming "Minispheres". -You signed an ODP with Hedge because TCWsphere was giving you a hard time, -signed TCWsphere when Quack was a major threat, -left Swamp when the narrative was shifting to Swamp being too big, -Signs CAM but uses the excuse that "we created Delta". Let's be honest about the dumping of Delta, it was such a disappointing thing that you would ditch some of these alliances after they have followed you for so long. You guys in all your effort to be the beacon of minisphere hope, keep repeating the past. Instead of taking the time to grow internally you look outside. It's unneeded and counter productive to your "goals" so I am sorry that I held you accountable for calling out what I saw was just another backtrack. That is the meaning of my comments that you guys love to meme without actually looking into why I said it. As for looking to fight Oasis. You couldn't be more out of position since minus my comments on Morf Radio we have a long history of respect and cooperation. Oasis has never been on my or Hedges radar for a war so whoever fed that nonsense just manipulated the hell out of you. Now, our war with Delta... OK we memed (like our narrative was mostly that) it hard since they came to us day one after the counter blitz looking for peace. We had no intention of ending it on the first day. Most of us thought it would be a great thing for Delta to show they can't be pushed around while learning some valuable lessons in the process. It also helped stretch our legs in CotL to see where we had issues which turned out we got relaxed on too much. The problem is, you seem to not know much about it at all or it doesn't fit your Hedge Man Bad narrative so you forget things. Much like how I told Carlo on day one that it would likely be two rounds than white peace or how Kev told Dave we were not looking for reps. You can also ask Koala if I apologize if they felt we were being too disrespectful. The only reason the "Peace Talks" went the way it did was because it was already decided, and they managed to handle it extremely poorly ie that BF guy's weird flexing.

It appears we have to up our game.

His post here is enough to warrant them getting someone else. You simply do not try and call out the people in a peace post. Unless you guys want to keep playing stupid games.

Delta... get a new spokesman. He is likely the worse person to have be the voice for you all. Dave, CotL didn't poach the prot. They came to us, like others. Maybe instead of trying to throw shade at Hedge you fix the problems that cause them to leave in the first place.

Look at you trying to be clever. We played this game before and it didn't end well for you than.

Did you declare war on a member of Hedge?

Have you read the Disclaimer portion of the logs? It doesn't seem like you have. Akuryo once held those beliefs but do not anymore. This is proven since she outed herself in an attempt to show that we have some donkeys pretending to be stallions. Which should have started a conversation about what we are going to allow in our community. If she wouldn't have shown remorse for those past beliefs than she would have kicked the can down the road. Since she has by compiling the logs with intent to go public while also stating that she deserves to receive backlash for it. I am willing to believe that she does not harbor such beliefs anymore. Do not get me wrong, she is no Saint. We just have to come to the realization that not everything is black and white. Also, yes minesome I know where you got them and I know you posted it. From my understanding you just posted them a couple of days before she going to.

Incorrect. We did not know about the logs she compiled until they were posted on RON. Good try tho.

To the mods: This post will blur the lines between IC and OOC as in order for me to discuss the events that have recently taken place I must discuss both. If you wish to move this post to a forum that you deem more appropriate than thank you in advance. As many of you are aware recently there has been a full series of Logs that were created by Akuryo in order to shed light upon some of the more unsavory people within our community. These logs were created for the purpose of “coming clean” and as a warning to others that we have to be careful not to allow yourselves to become complacent when battling the more unacceptable, disgusting ideologies that some people have outside of the game. As much as I tend not to care if you are “Right” or “Left”, there are simply some viewpoints that I cannot stomach, in this case White Supremacy To me White Supremacy, and other hate, is nothing more than a burden upon society that forever locks us into stagnation. It is the sick excuses that weak minds use to justify their complete ignorance of the world around them. It is not something to be tolerated nor is it something that we can just humor. When I was made aware of these logs I spoke with Akuryo about them and asked her why she felt the need to put herself on the cross knowing full well what was going to come next. Her response was “But I did have to, I couldn't keep standing for what I do otherwise. People like me preach accountability. It was time to practice”. That is something I can respect, along with her attempt of making amends by coming public. This is why she will remain a member of CotL. I will not be forcing her out of the alliance she has called a home for a year nor will I be removing her from the friends she has made during that time. When she leaves it will be of her choice, not mine. With saying that she has shaken my faith in her ability to be my Second, that is why I asked for her to step down which she has done. To me that is a just punishment for her crimes given the remorse for past actions. Unfortunately, I understand that my decision will be unacceptable to some people. That is something I am prepared to live with as someone’s personal growth can only be achieved by willingness to work towards forgiveness. For me to turn my back on someone who is looking to make amends is simply not the person I am and would be counterproductive to the person I wish to be.

We didn't deny agreeing to work with Swamp in a Defensive war. SRD stated this and we told you this before. Only thing you are doing is trying to grasp at straws to say that Rose, Hedge and Swamp agreed to hit you guys months before it happened which is simply not true.

I didn't think this was a big secret since SRD already shared this at the beginning of the last war. As for me being the Mysterious Hedge Leader, who here didn't already figure that out and who won the betting pool?

Congrats on the merge.

Brown is the new orange.

As the person who just threw it up there for the sake of it since I knew Swamp had this unholy wall of text, I completely agree with you. It didn't warrant any recognition and it annoyed me that it was shortlisted.

Sorry for the loss of your friend and community member. May he rest in peace.

If you choose to keep putting your back up to anything we say than there will be no going forward. We will be doomed to repeat ourselves over and over again. That is not a threat, or a promise, its just seems to be the cycle around here. A cycle I hope we can break. We have already told you about the Hedge-Swamp Defensive deal and why we felt it was right at the time. You can't keep disregarding our position simply because you don't like it. Its not a lie that Quack actions help lead us on a path, its not a lie that we were uncomfortable with your size and ability. Those are all facts and its the combination of those facts that put us where we are today. You are wrong that its up to Hedge to repair our relationship. Its both of us that have to sit down and settle things.

TI and TFP took the dive on wishful thinking. They didn't sit back and use excuses as to why they couldn't do this or that, they just did it. They were starting out fresh with no sure things or big players coming to help them. Yet, I'm supposed to believe that the most competent, experienced bloc in the game couldn't get it together in three months or less? Sounds like I have more faith in your abilities than you do. The NAP had to be a blanket. If it wasn't than you guys would of had way too much of an advantage with little reason to work towards mending bridges or changing direction. All you would do is sit back and watch us run into each other than clap someone down the road. Why would I think that? Simply because that is what I would do. People are like water and will always take the easiest route, its no fault of our own just nature. At least this way Swamp gets the chance to fix their train wreck, Tyrion and Harry can mold the bloc of their dreams and Quack can find your smile again. Not happy about it but it is what it is and I agreed to it. We all share the blame for the war since each of us had our roles to play ensuring it would happen, be it Hedge agreeing to defend Swamp or elements of Quack's attitude towards the other blocs. Without all the factors we wouldn't have lead up to where we are. I'm not going to argue the CB since frankly, CB's are perspective. Sphinx's resignation and Boyce's desire to see CotL get smoked allowed you to see what you wanted and you rolled with it. Thats perfectly acceptable since with the shoe on the other foot I'd have went for it no differently. Problem is, now we have to move on and that means coming to an understanding. People say they need trust but trust doesn't exist. We need to listen, reflect and act upon the concerns or else we will be back here again wasting our time yelling at walls. Sorry if that sounds preachy but thats my after school special moment. Phoenyx don't even waste your time quoting me. I'm not interested in getting sucked into the vortex my man.

Who cares? They felt threatened, we felt threatened. War happened. Welcome to the game. You can write about it again when the next war happens.

No, there is a difference between the rules of our creator and rules of us mere mortals. When an alliance asks you not to talk about something than its a gag order. Its really not a complex idea.

That is the PnW version of a gag order.

Judging by the drop mid war, a hard exit is my guess.

Must of missed the Best Rebrand. Thank you for clearing that up.

Out of curiosity, Best Rookie Alliance will be one of the new start ups and not the merged or restarts. Correct?

Get back under your bridge than.