Pubstomper

Nice try guy, a few wars were a shit show on Rose's part, but you know who was consistently bad proxy to now? VE. Rose also had seen wild success in war prior to their failures around those times. Take a look at TAC war (giving credit to TAC players all branding into Rose) and Marionette war. VE had seen success in the rolling of GPA with Guardian, SK, and friends in 2015, and when Rose flipped on Guardian and SK the following summer (resulting in paragon coming to fruition between t$, Rose, and VE). However, TAC war was essentially a single effort on "Rose's" part, and Marionette war was a show of SK and Guardian fighting the top tier only, with Rose fighting low, mid, and top tier. The real reason Rose didn't have great war performances before was organizational problems, consistent security problems with leaks, and situational problems that have nothing to do with Rose today. We often would lose in the political chess going on which resulted in a lost war before it even began. Go tell me how many posts you can find of Rose gov shitting on military moves made by other alliances during the time Rose was having poor performances in war. You'll be hard pressed to find any because we knew we needed to improve, there was no denying it. Seeing GoTG gov shit talking when they have yet to prove themselves is not even comparable to the behavior of Rose gov when Rose was in the shitter as well. The reason you see people calling GoTG gov out for talking trash is because they haven't done anything to prove that they are any better. They are in no position to be doing such things and until they prove us all wrong I see no reason to give them the respect of an alliance like BK, TKR, NPO, or any other alliance that actually has had statistical significance in a war in the last year. I do give kudos to Seeker though, seeing as he will admit they did not perform well in Silent. Respect to him for that.

This coming from VE 2.0

o/ SK I'm glad people are still actually following through on protectorates. For a while it seemed they were more a statement of friendship than anything else.

You guys better watch it, hadesflames and Sylvia will come argue with flawed logic.

I'm petty and liked to see who liked the things I posted. Pls give back.

Normally I would just slander Anson, but I cant help but applaud him for somehow managing to find the most easily manipulated alliance leaders in the game and taking advantage of them.

lmbo that's not what a !@#$ boy is

Just get rid of Argotitan. Dudes a !@#$ boy

Welcome!

Sometimes, when I see how many threads Argotitan has spammed his nonsense in, I want to just stop following these boards. But who else will play victim to his OOC attacks if I don't?

Quoted for posterity, remember the time you called me names for saying you complained a lot? !@#$ing idiot.

!@#$ Rose

That's like 3 months

Bolded to reiterate that I am claiming no one expected it(because it's nearly impossible), not that we did it. Read above, you misunderstood what I was saying. I was the person who posted a Pantheon appreciation thread during the war, I'm not trying to discredit you guys and the relief you had on us at all. But BK didn't pin us down with their blitz, which they should have been more than capable of doing. 4head strats.

"Totally dicked"... fighting like 45 rose nations with your like 130 bk and your blitz didn't eliminate us? The funniest part is that your top tier still got !@#$ed up before pantheon even entered. I don't think anyone seriously expected an alliance with ~50 members to 1v1 an alliance with over twice the member count and win every tier. Good job winning the lower tier though, it clearly crippled us. Keep up with the 4head strats.

Reading all these posts about completely abandoning the FA world created over the last few years is hilarious. Mostly because it's from someone who has no clue what the culture here is like.

Its more just whatever I can do to !@#$ with you, Anson, it's strictly personal, dw

Congrats! Thanks for ruining this movie for me. Should be called Guardians of Seekers Ego, since this is what he has to do to save face from VE's failures under his reign.

Adama, Abbas, Partisan, Tim Armstrong, Malone, Yosodog and Fraggle are all exceptionally smart OOC. Prefontaine was good at playing the game but I don't think it was only due to his wit. He had help from Malone on just about everything for the first half and had a lot of friends other than that. Not to discredit the things he did, but the others I listed just have stronger minds imo.

Rose has only ever been led by one person who played that game, and it was Kurdanak back in early 2015. And Kurdanak does not play politics there seeing as he was GPA.

In all honestly, how do we know we can trust you with that much of our own money? You have essentially no reputation here yet.

I think the funniest part of this is that if they wanted to cancel on you, it's a 20 day period

Lol Anson still a !@#$ boy Edit: went to read Marxist dream bio... "If one of our members is raiding you, please contact Chairman Worgenwow and we will get that sorted with the greatest possible expedience. You may also contact the leadership of our MDAP ally, Land of Confusion, if you wish to negotiate with a more established alliance"