Kurdanak

End of an era. 😔

Hot damn, where do I sign up??

I like it. Let's bring surprise one-way WIKI-PIATs to P&W. 😤

Good luck on the new path, FSO!

o/ ASM o/ 5P o/ rioting🔥 Congrats friends!

From one high-horse to another, I respect the grandstand, but you keep deflecting away from the inherent toxicity in imposing this on a sphere as a peace term. And again, it's certainly lighter and more helpful than your original terms of enforced MMR on Fark and a sphere name change that opens HM up to being meme'd on indefinitely (just because it's fun for you, does not mean that it's fun for those taking the brunt of your jokes). I'm glad some folks like hidude are making the best out of the situation, genuinely, but I go back to my issue here in the first place - that in order to obtain peace after having been rolled by the Johnson's (and their handy-dandy mercenary safety net), HM is required to make this server. The foundation is dirty and disrespectful, even if followed up by admirable clean action by the community. I believe that feedback is best received when done so voluntarily - your approach risks alienating several of those you claim to be trying to help out (evidently, considering the backlash from some HM gov). It's understandable to be rubbed the wrong way by having the guys who just rolled you then sit you down to have your internal affairs criticized. Is it really that shocking that several, even outside of Big Bad Rose, are reacting cynically to what you did? And on that note, regarding your Rose-based rhetoric there, lmfao, guess some of my gov didn't make you happy. Sorry, but I'm speaking for myself here, Kev. Obviously a positive conversation around improvement is possible; I just listed multiple ways in my quoted post, ways to help out an individual/alliance/sphere without some pretentious help term presented as for HM's own good. Again, good on the individuals making the best out of this. I just think that there are far, far better ways to go about giving advice than this. Ways that, believe it or not, people are using and will continue to do so. May we both have positive results!

That's a heavy "if" lmao. What's up with the quotations around "terms?" This criticism server was a straight up term for peace, was it not? Would you have accepted simply a surrender, without some extra salt in the wound? The issue to me is declaring a war just to fight (which isn't a bad thing), and ending it by imposing terms that frankly come off as demeaning. The term that made it to the end isn't half as bad as the ones from earlier in peace negotiations, at least, though I'm sure those were "jokes," right? There are ways to communicate constructive criticism that don't involve opening up a peanut gallery in return for peace. DMs, embassies, public channels - taking this route screams disrespect, even if I trust the intention. Attacking an alliance to improve them isn't even a new concept - Mensa rolled the hell out of TFP and gave them tips along the way and after, leading to improvement at the time - the key difference is that it was all voluntary and in no way attached to attaining peace itself (although it did include meme terms, which I did find distasteful then as well). Terms, radio show, a criticism server - making HM jump through all these hoops was as a major !@#$ move, true to the Johnson's name. But hey, that is indeed just my opinion.

I still think imposing terms in a no-CB shits and giggles war is lame as hell, but congrats on the peace nevertheless.

as former GPA, I have to admit that seeing some democracy in action brings a tiny bit of warmth to my cold, bitter, authoritarian heart (which was then promptly snuffed out). Good luck!

Option 4, easily. I play P&W in spite of myself.

Presuming that Adam is Adam, does that make Zurg Eve? 😳 Good luck!

VE's soulless husk is starting to look fresher than ever! I think we might be able to make this work, after all. 😌

Right? I've been trying to breathe life into VE's corpse for hours, but no luck. Guess I'll have to do some more thinking.

I'll never forget our time in the lavatory together 🥵 see ya around!

Seriously awesome theme indeed. Good luck!

Fun coincidence, the other day at a cocktail bar, I saw and had to order a certain drink: It was delicious, clearly a sign of good things to come between us - cheers!

Congrats! Best of luck going forward together!

Thanks! Quite a few interesting tid-bits in here. I'm not sure where people keep getting this idea that one can exert authority and influence over multiple alliances (who will inevitably have conflicting interests down the line) and not have it blow up in their faces. If you have a problem with the direction the alliance you founded is going, be there to actually fix it instead of yanking away collateral after the guys you left in charge did something different. 🤨 EDIT: But I guess that's not what this thread is specifically about.

This post continues to age well. (unlike you)

First WTF, then Fark, now Arrgh? When will this rampant bullying of poor, defenseless micros end??

End of an era. Arf arf!

RIP that one c37 though While one could say that WTF could do some things to not get picked on time and time again (don't ask me, though, I've got nothing lol), never great to see an old/large member delete 😅

DNN winning Best Server (popular vote) with 69 votes, really incredible - one might even say that this vote was...guided by the hand of fate, or something.