Keegoz

I can see why most the game has you blocked. Congrats on getting on my blocklist, you say an awful lot of nothing.

Rich coming from the mental nutcase you are. Score isn't a metric of anything but score. Rose is doing real well having 1 million score.

Score means nothing. Stop using it as a metric to measure success.

These are the smallest spheres the game has really ever had. You could argue it was smaller in 2014 (but the game was a lot smaller) but we still had the top alliances allied to one another. Corn Shuckers which was the alliance that would form into Rose even made a coalition with Guardian/SK/TEst to beat a coalition headed by the #1 alliance UPN. Point is the game has always had a similar theme to it. This game is at the peak of FA in terms of what you can do. I lay the blame at the feet of how many poor FA minds we have in this game for some of the poor and lousy decision making. I've been around for a while and I think we're probably at the point where good FA people are incredibly rare. I'm pretty certain if I had the time or the energy I could re-create something to rival Cata/Clock but I've quite frankly done enough. Too many FA's are purely reactionary, we need FA people who go on the front foot from time to time.

Correct, if Tyrion wants to ruin minispheres in some aspects it will take another sphere to take him up on it. Takes 2 to sign a secret treaty.

Can also add to the fact Tyrion was perfectly happy to break the recent NAP agreement to get out of being rolled. He also more or less sold out Minc to do it.

It worked perfectly fine, they pinned the entire game down for months on end. Only thing that saved us was uncovering their cheating.

I'm not even sure if the 'sekrit treaty' is just a meme by Swamp or if they actually don't get the difference between a coalition and what they're doing. I'll break it down, we made an agreement to hit Swamp together. We did not give each other blanket protection from other alliances or spheres (you did and still do). We went offensive, you went defensive whilst signalling that it was going to remain until you were ready to go offensive. Aka, you have a MDP with another alliance for all intents and purposes. A coalition and a secret treaty are not the same thing. People are not saying 'you can't have coalitions', they're saying you cannot have agreements in place to protect another sphere or alliance if they are hit.

We waited for you to go into VM. Also tbf, we wanted you to be involved in our next project

The fact no one else in the sphere milled up?

You were worried that 2 alliances were going to roll your entire bloc? Or just incapable of reading?

Cataclysm declares war against Swamp for multiple transgressions. This post is going to be long so I’ll just quickly premise what it’s about. It details what moves were being made that led us to this conflict from our side, how we view Swamp (Mystery Inc and Oasis), as well as why we decided to work with BW in this war. Let’s start with how we got here. About 6 days ago, Cataclysm made the decision to militarise and its allies moved to a peacetime MMR soon after. Hand of Fate then moved to max MMR 2 days later. Cata and HoF planned to hit Mystery Inc that Friday at update. A war where we would have been completely outnumbered and out-tiered in. It would have been a quick war (2 rounds) to round out the year, and a bit of fun for everyone involved. We however never imagined that a new Swamp would form from just our two alliances militarising. As I said before, MInc’s move to form Swamp is not at all justified and if they have the intel they claim then they are simply incapable of handling a threat on their own without cowering behind large treaties. This adding to the fact that Minc has had the most peace time out of all spheres in this game makes it even more pathetic. Minc is not the smallest sphere nor is it the weakest but their mindset is terrible for this game and for themselves. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if you cannot envisage any war you will fight without making another sphere basically unstoppable and needing multiple enemy spheres to counter, then pack it in. Minc should have seriously thought about their future when Camelot left and the answer should have been pretty obvious when they continued to leak allies in Aurora, Weebunism and Waffle House. Your only goal seems to be survival now and although admirable, it only serves to you making these horrendous decisions which impact the game. You can’t just simply run to another sphere to avoid being hit and after realising it made you more likely to be attacked you end it. It was even more amusing that Minc members decided to openly taunt Clock thinking we couldn’t touch them (surprise btw, we can). I really hope this is the wake up call that you need and you choose a new direction for Minc. Now for Oasis. Well Clock actually had no plans for you. We get that you desperately would have liked to work with us but in good conscience, we saw no real situation where teaming up with you wasn’t a dogpile. With that said, you’ve proven over the last week to be hypocritical, liars and opportunists. Let’s start with hypocritical, despite decrying dogpiles and massive spheres, here we are. You basically confirmed to us that you intend to work with Mystery for an offensive hit in the future. Quite frankly, I am tired of Oasis using the same excuses as to why they can dogpile. Apparently not controlling the whale tier entirely gives justification to roll every other tier. This is really where politics is needed, to fix what you believe you lack in order to stand on your own two feet. I’ve made 2 spheres in the time Oasis has existed that I am confident could 1v1 other spheres without the need to simply dogpile. I won’t pretend we have a perfect past record on it but I think we should endeavour to continue to improve. Aka, stop signing low tier if you don’t want to be seen as having massive numbers and start trying to entice alliances that bolster your tiering. Stop signing anything with a goddamn pulse. Stop having an open door to your alliance and swelling your ranks with a membership that simply cannot follow directions. Oasis could be a good sphere but there are mentality issues at the top that seem to be comfortable just looking for easy war opportunities. I’d also like to point out that I am not really aware of what gave Oasis the idea we’d be open to working with them, given I don’t believe I’ve had many conversations with them. I was merely informed by an ally that they wanted to work with us and we decided there was no scenario in which that would work. Now let’s move onto the liar part. Despite avowing not to have secret treaties after GnR, here we are. I appreciate you made it public but you only did so when war was literally on the horizon. You evidently intended to have any ties remain secret for as long as possible. Making them public however doesn’t change much, it really doesn’t. You have not formed what most would call a coalition aimed at hitting someone, you have indeed formed a MDP treaty that will remain until you’re done using Minc. Your assertion not to have secret treaties after GnR was a lie. You also lied when you signed onto the NAP agreement. For those of you who are unaware, Tyrion offered 2 blocs NAPs to avoid being hit. This was literally 2 days after signing a document that we saw as a mechanism to reduce NAPs. It was offered to BW and Clock. I quote the agreement: “1. Superfluous non-aggression pacts, otherwise known as blanket NAPs, that cover a majority of the active alliances, risk stagnating the game and we will strive to avoid signing them going forward.” Why are we working with BW? Well I’d much preferred to have a war that was less a massive cluster but we couldn’t 1v1 Swamp - at their size, no one can. At best, we would have stalemated them and I think in some ways, they would have thought that justified their political bs. They need a lesson to be taught here. TL;DR: Cataclysm will not stand for rewinding the progress made over the last year, and it is evident that Swamp needs to be taught a lesson.

I feel like this is just insulting the communities intelligence now.

They nuke themselves.

So basically at any point you feel threatened you intend to team up with a bloc and give them overwhelming numbers. Sounds to me like you need a rethink to your sphere, something that needed to happen when Camelot left and desperately needed when Aurora/Weebunism left. However you cut it, you're not the smallest sphere in the game and not small enough to join another sphere to just even out a war.

You guys just trying to make it easy for me to meme you at a later date?

Eclipse had no intention of hitting you. You're going to be terribly embarrased when you find out that you've done this out of your own paranoia.

This has such good endorsement that it made Adam delete.

Some people made that war quite toxic in peace negotiations, and we denied to take any of them. Hence it went for such a long time. So it sorta sticks out from the others.

It was also the longest war at the time by a fair margin until NPOLT came along.

It's an economic question on lost income and this won't change that. Making wars more expensive merely pushes the peace time inbetween the wars to become longer.

This is indeed an issue, but it's not that widely abused because it is pretty quickly reported. At the end of the day, it will never be the deciding factor of a war if Arrgh beiges a few people. Meh, you're merely changing the meta here slightly. Rebuilding infra + mil already exists in the current meta if you need to whilst losing. The more likely outcome is what normally happens which is to nuke/missile. Normally people are struggling for targets if they're winning, I very much doubt people will care if they're out of the war. It won't have the impact you're looking for.

The Clock Bloc Preamble Cataclysm, Eclipse, Aurora and Weebunism, woke up in the mornin' feelin' like P Diddy (hey, what up girl?) Grabbed our glasses, we’re out the door, we’re gonna hit this city (let's go) Before I leave, brush my teeth with a bottle of Jack 'Cause when I leave for the night, I ain't comin' back Article 1: Information sharing I'm talkin' pedicure on our toes, toes Tryin' on all our clothes, clothes Boys blowin' up our phones, phones Drop-toppin', playin' our favorite CDs Pullin' up to the parties Tryna get a little bit tipsy Article 2: Defence I'm talkin' 'bout everybody gettin' crunk, crunk Boys try to touch my junk, junk Gonna smack him if he gettin' too drunk, drunk Article 3: New members Ain't got a care in the world, but got plenty of beer Ain't got no money in my pocket, but I'm already here And now the dudes are linin' up 'cause they hear we got swagger But we kick 'em to the curb unless they look like Mick Jagger Article 4: Cancellation Now, now, we go until they kick us out, out Or the police shut us down, down Police shut us down, down Po-po shut us down Don't stop, make it pop DJ, blow my speakers up Tonight, I'ma fight 'Til we see the sunlight Tick-tock on the clock But the party don't stop, no Tl;dr Cataclysm, Eclipse, Weebunism and Aurora create a new clock bloc

Hopefully there is a run-off vote so we can band together to stop the worst major war name from getting through. Brawlywood? Seriously?

People forget pretty quick when the game was IQ vs EMC quite a number of times with a slight difference. The wars we've been having recently at least are unique. I agree with Hidude however, the spheres need to be smaller for this to work in a less 'dogpile' fashion.