Diocletian

Nevermind the fact that the "holy land" in fact originally belonged to cavemen, but in more "modern antiquity" it was owned by the ancient Phoenicians/Canaanites. Israelites of ancient times never had their own sovereign land. You're correct on stating there never being a land called "Palestine" up until 1947, they were in fact known then as Arabs. Your attempts at legitimacizing either nation in antiquity is rather shallow. Israel has far less of a legitimate claim than any Arab nation to current day Israel (Syria, Jordan and even Egypt particularly).

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Israel's claim to legitimacy lies solely with the "United Nations" and its partition in 1947. Not only does the U.N. as well as any globalized organization truly have no real authority (lest it be an acceptable idea in the first place) over any sovereign nation, it sure as Hell shouldn't have the authority to steal land from native inhabitants to hand it back to another ethnic group. The "historical religious" argument is a weak one at best too. Israel loves to also boast about how the "Holy Land" was originally theirs to begin with, however, that's false to begin with too as the ancient Israelites stole said piece of sod from the ancient Canaanites. To be completely fair though, coexistance would be the best option obviously IF both the Israel and Palestine ceased their attacks on one another. Coexistance is a joke, and one the liberals of the world love to shout about in the fairytale that is their "rationalization." You can't reason with people who are hellbent on murdering you, and that goes both ways.

Hey you're poaching GPA members too?! Glad to see we at VE aren't the only ones o/ Fox o/BRMC

Sounds like a grand idea, I'll partake

You guys are gonna get along great in Guardian, I can see it already. Hail forgiveness!

Scratch that, BBQ chicken, cream corn, velvetta shells and cheese and cut potatoes mmmm. Ramen does great too, quickest and easiest meal on the planet

You know, I usually don't agree with anything Diabolos says, but the spy system is certainly something that needs....fine-tuned. It really is insane that anyone can spy anyone, while it makes sense in a real-world situation, this isn't the real world. We play games like P&W in part to get away from real world issues. And taking it a step further, it really kills the game a bit when a 500-1k something person can spy away any new player's assets at the drop of the hat. I wonder how many people have already been driven away from the game due to this game mechanic alone? I'm sure is doesn't happen too often, but surely it happens more than people would probably like to believe. Maybe limit spy-ops to people within 1-200 ns of their targeted nation. I'm not suggesting going full-board Cybernations here, but even a broad range like that could greatly cut down early-life inactives and promote slightly fairer gameplay.

As the title says, I'm in dire need of gasoline and would like to secure a long-term swap of up to 2 months minimum, and on a recurring, weekly basis. I'd like to offer 1,150 ppu for 1,500 units. If you're interested drop me a message in-game and we can chat further about the deal! Thanks, -Robert House

Woohoo Orbis' first BDSM themed alliance! I like this post so hard it hurts (emotionally)

Surely every bit of 10 hours. At least.

You let your members (and yourself personally) attack affiliated people, you're gonna have a bad time. Duh

Careful BoC ESA has them gatling lasers. Best of luck fighting fire with swords Seriously though best of luck to both sides!

Oh yes, show Presidential what's up. Add me to this list

Yep, take it from the biggest example of one currently on Orbis! You should be fine provided you get a top-tier alliance to protect you while you build it up! Til then, best of luck in your endeavor Fox! By the way, depending on whether you actively need the cash or not would be a good way to gauge your need for the alliance bank. Another (definitly the biggest factor) way to look at it is if you're getting raided and know you can't win and/or defend stashing your funds in your bank would be the optimal choice as you'll get much less stolen from you in the 6th (and final) consecutive enemy immense triumph attack.

Epic, I'll take 20 tickets!

Hello and welcome to Orbis! I hope you enjoy the game and grow prosperous!

Does everything anymore count as a "debate?" I r hooked on fonics, herm. In all seriousness though, this belongs in Alliance Recruitment, but good luck with your alliance aspiration, it sounds about as groundbreaking as FSA.

In the game's defense, it does represent the current state of affairs in Syria quite accurately

Oh great bronies. Orbis has gone to Hell. Seriously though, welcome and good luck in your endeavor!

Yeah buddy! We have your six always tS

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Well, it's good to see Orbis is still full of colorful people. This is a strange DoE, but good luck to you nonetheless. Oh and don't worry about FSA, laugh at the relatively unsubstantiated "fact" their 'grand plot' is to build the game's first nuke program and take out a bunch of alliance's top tier nations. That's supposedly why their leadership is robbing the rest of their members every chance they get. I know, it's laughable and I of course don't believe it, but I'd let FSA go the way of the dinosaurs as they are destined to do so on their own. Do you know anything about this rumor?

Yeah you should have some kind of protection agreement from a top-tier alliance before trying something like this. No one is going to even so much as consider investing in this idea without a guarentee their entire share is gonna be gone long before they even blink a third time. I know it seems kind of counter productive, but if you're serious about this idea you should hire some muscle.

Nah VE is destined for the dominant green alliance, and the #1 alliance in general