Clinton or Trump?

[WISD0MTREE]

Hey, I got some lightly used server. The guy who sold it to me looked pretty familiar. I wonder if he was like on the news for something. He had gray hair and was about six foot one or two. He talked about how he had an affair with this one girl and now his wife has him selling some servers. Yeah, really shady. He even has bodyguards. So, PaW, is $150 for a server with some emails on it a good buy? It has like 12 TBs and everything. 

 

Oh, yeah. His name was like Clinton or something. 

Edited August 28, 2015 by WISD0MTREE

[Tiber]

If I didn't know that Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon, I would think he was stupid. He comes off as extremely unintelligent.

[Speaker Faris Wheeler]

If I didn't know that Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon, I would think he was stupid. He comes off as extremely unintelligent.

I agree, but people can come off as stupid, or not as bright, but they are extremely intellegent. Ronald Reagan was considered the stupidest President, but he was smart, and a really good leader

[saeton]

Hillary Clinton is one of the worst choices for President ever. Look at Benghazi. Look at the secret emails. Look at EVERYTHING she's done or not done as Secretary of State and imagine the further atrocities that could happen as President. 

 

I'd rather Trump bankrupt us than Clinton turn us into a failed state who ends up getting bent over by the entire world. 

[Hysteria]

It doesnt matter what your polling it matters if you win the caucus and the primaries. If you remember in 2012 Rick Santorum won the Iowa caucus while polling like 1%.

Edited August 29, 2015 by Hysteria

[Hysteria]

[Kyubnyan]

They both suck TBH.

[Belisarius]

Do I think Clinton is corrupt? Yes. Would I prefer her as the Democratic nominee? Not particularly.

 

But a sack of potatoes would be a better President than Donald Trump. So #PotatoSack2016 \o/

[Peace and War]

Why would someone actually vote for an insane egomaniac named Donald Trump? Sure he knows business. But we're talking about someone who publicly released someone's phone number just because he didn't like them. How could you trust someone like this to speak with foreign leaders?

 

People should vote for whom they believe are the best, despite whether they gave good chances to win or not. Voice your opinion with your vote.

 

Are you all aware that the electoral college decides the president? Voice your opinion, because your vote doesn't decide the president.

[Kemal Ergenekon]

What's the problem with Clinton? I, for one, welcome a democratic imperialist given the FP situation.

[Kenneth]

Not trying to be sexist, but Hilary can't be president because how would she negotiate with Iran and the rest of the middle east because she is a woman. None of them would take her seriously.

 

 

Sorry, mate, but the irony here is unbelievable. Despite your disclaimer, the statement that you made is the textbook definition of sexism.

[Dwemyrn]

Hillary Clinton is one of the worst choices for President ever. Look at Benghazi. Look at the secret emails. Look at EVERYTHING she's done or not done as Secretary of State and imagine the further atrocities that could happen as President. 

 

I'd rather Trump bankrupt us than Clinton turn us into a failed state who ends up getting bent over by the entire world. 

Voting is for humans you are a bear. You will need to petition for bears to have a right to vote.

[WISD0MTREE]

I'd rather Trump bankrupt us than Clinton turn us into a failed state who ends up getting bent over by the entire world. 

Out of his hundreds of businesses, he only lost 4. And if I recall correctly, they were all casinos or casino related. 

 

What's the problem with Clinton? 

Please kill me. 

 

EDIT I, II, and III: Grammar

Edited August 31, 2015 by WISD0MTREE

[Solomon]

Out of his hundreds of businesses, he only lost 4. And if I recall correctly, they were all casinos or casino related. 

If you want to know more about Donald Trump's bankruptcies, Forbes gives a good explanation here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/debtwire/2015/08/18/a-trip-down-donald-trumps-bankruptcy-memory-lane/

 

The gist of it is that he uses bankruptcy as a business tool. We can argue about whether he should be allowed to but the real question is how he'd cope in politics when those tools were no longer available and he had to answer for his bad decisions.

[Kemal Ergenekon]

Please kill me. 

 

Wow, what a well-thought response. If you insist...

[WISD0MTREE]

If you insist...

Go right ahead. And take my lightly used email server I got cheap while you are at it. 

[Rozalia]

Hillary is just another of the many third way politicians so electing her is a complete waste of time. Trump at the very least you can count on delivering the wall, health care changes, and the other things he has laid out. 

Beyond that if he can somehow settle the matters of citizenship like other republicans want (but do not dare do) then he can cripple the democrat voter base they've cynically cultivated. Knee capping the third way is no bad thing. 

 

I'm far from a conservative myself, but Hillary or Trump? Trump all the way. A conservative is preferable to anyone who advocates the third way to me. 

[Kemal Ergenekon]

Go right ahead. And take my lightly used email server I got cheap while you are at it. 

 

I see nothing wrong with what she did. Care to explain why it hurts her ability to be the president?

[Doktor Avalanche]

Hillary is just another of the many third way politicians so electing her is a complete waste of time. Trump at the very least you can count on delivering the wall, health care changes, and the other things he has laid out. 

Beyond that if he can somehow settle the matters of citizenship like other republicans want (but do not dare do) then he can cripple the democrat voter base they've cynically cultivated. Knee capping the third way is no bad thing. 

 

I'm far from a conservative myself, but Hillary or Trump? Trump all the way. A conservative is preferable to anyone who advocates the third way to me. 

Two things: He has not expressed in any way exactly how he is going to accomplish his healthcare platform, and sadly I have seen a lot of his speeches where its hot air only, not substance.....And second, his approach to dealing with matters of citizenship are no better than when we rounded up all Asian Americans and put them in a camp for four years during WWII. Then we would all be forced to show evidence of our citizenship on top of other forms of identification when simply walking through a mall or a parking lot. "Papers, please!" is something I never want to hear in my home country.

 

Hillary is a living, walkng and breathing scandal about every four to six years ever since her husband got into office. Many of you were not even born when Bill took office and because of that many of you never got to experience seeing her deal with the Whitewater Scandal which was her first, and not last, scandal.

[WISD0MTREE]

I see nothing wrong with what she did. Care to explain why it hurts her ability to be the president?

Look at PaW right now. Unsecure server. Now imagine that, but with classified documents... And when the investigators ask for the server, they get a wiped server. 

 

Now what was that you were saying? 

Edited September 1, 2015 by WISD0MTREE

[Rozalia]

Two things: He has not expressed in any way exactly how he is going to accomplish his healthcare platform, and sadly I have seen a lot of his speeches where its hot air only, not substance.....And second, his approach to dealing with matters of citizenship are no better than when we rounded up all Asian Americans and put them in a camp for four years during WWII. Then we would all be forced to show evidence of our citizenship on top of other forms of identification when simply walking through a mall or a parking lot. "Papers, please!" is something I never want to hear in my home country.

 

Hillary is a living, walkng and breathing scandal about every four to six years ever since her husband got into office. Many of you were not even born when Bill took office and because of that many of you never got to experience seeing her deal with the Whitewater Scandal which was her first, and not last, scandal.

 

I recall some talk about states, ring fencing, removing that, with some references to Canada and Britain. As for the talk of camps, the Hungarians are talking of putting immigrants in work camps right now. Support for Work Camps is surging in 2015 apparently.

 

That doesn't really change anything. Trump is a "killer", and he'd "kill" her with her scandals.

[Solomon]

... Trump is a "killer", and he'd "kill" her with her scandals.

What does that mean?

[Kemal Ergenekon]

Look at PaW right now. Unsecure server. Now imagine that, but with classified documents... And when the investigators ask for the server, they get a wiped server. 

 

Now what was that you were saying? 

 

I don't think anyone was worried about the security of Clinton's server. They were primarily !@#$ing about accountability. Which is a moot point, because if she had sensitive material that she would not have sent over official servers, she wouldn't send them over that mail address anyway.

 

This is just a scandal for scandal's sake. Try to come up with a better analogy next time btw.

[Rozalia]

What does that mean?

 

Basically to be zealous in his attacks on her no matter the situation, even if considered tasteless by some. To give an example, David Cameron before winning his first election had his disabled son die. Tragic thing of course, however this politically had a side effect. Cameron in regards to healthcare, his own image, his life experience, among other things was seen as incredibly weak (even against Brown who was suffering a tsunami of bad press constantly). His opponents were ready to savage him heavily, but when his son died they backed off giving Cameron an easy pass of things.

He despised the NHS but his son died while in NHS care and he thanked them for being so lovely so can't hit him there. He had no real life experience, but his son just died and that is all the experience he needs so can't attack there. He is an aristocrat who doesn't care about the poor and disabled, but his dead son who he loved was disabled so can't attack him there. 

 

Trump on the other strikes me as a guy who in that same situation would have shown no mercy/respect/whatever you want to call it. 

[Peace and War]

Are you serious man?

 

You think a giant wall is going to stop illegal immigrants? There is a weakness in every defense. And if people want to come here, they will find a way.

 

You can't stop immigration, illegal or not, no matter how hard you try.

 

A giant wall on the border of Mexico will just be a giant symbol of American stupidity and arrogance, illegal immigrants will just laugh as the pass right through it, or over it, or under it.