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Correction, during the initial blitz we hit Rose, ASM and Voodoo considering at the time they were the most competent ones in rosesphere and it was the most reasonable act for us to specifically choose those 3 as we were nowhere near close to blitz everyone in rosesphere. I do remember this as i was one of the dudes who set up the blitz alongside Horsecock and others. Mind you post blitz we still weren't able to fully slot those 3 alliances due to the mass numbers on your side. CoA, Polaris, Alpha RnR, were untouched. I'm not exactly sure what was going inside rose or rosesphere itself, but I do agree with you that one of the main reasons why rose lost is due to poor coordination and lack of counters between the sphere itself (Rose, Vodoo, ASM, CoA, Polaris, Alpha, RnR) Perhaps this was something we (clock) was hoping on and kinda expected hence why we mainly focused the better alliances which were Rose, Vodoo, ASM. If the four alliances had responded correctly and had coordinated properly (Polaris, CoA, Alpha, RnR) We would of certainly lost the whale tier. Now i'm not gonna act like they're super good and would of been able to manage to do that. Thats another topic by itself, but at the end of the day they were on your side and were allies to you meaning the numbers were still there and had they coordinated together and properly done counters, clock would of lost. We were outnumbered in the whale tier, we were hard outnumbered and thats just a fact. No1 is disagreeing with you that downdeclares in this current meta is super op, Yes, Our megawhales + the combination of the lack of coordination/competence from your allies back then made us win this war. I remember this very clear as i was doing milcom from our side, but, All of our members had 3-4 wars declared each (and some 5-6 for some reason, but they died because of it) and were pretty much overextended. It took us around 48 hours post blitz to fully slot rose. (yes, I remember this as it was a tough war) There were many whales and even c36-38+ from Coa, Alpha and RnR and if used properly, this could of hurt us very bad/turned the war around. Fenris who was c48 or 49? at the time declared only 1 offensive war, I MEAN ONLY 1?! He could of easily dragged 3 of our megawhales down by himself + by the help of 2 CoA members. It took us 3 days to fully secure the war, mind you alpha was alive still as we still weren't able to touch them (we barely managed to drag down fenris, he ran out of warchest lul). By the 3rd day or so alpha had declared only 2-3 wars, I sent one counter against their leader and he went on a kamikaze logging in on all of his account mass declaring on us instantly killed 4-5 megawhales. ultimately, They got caught lacking for being multis and got banned for it, the day they got banned the war was fully decided. tl;dr That war was indeed the toughest and most difficult and fair war that orbis had seen in a while.

It was one of the toughest and most difficult and fair war that orbis has seen in a while. It could of gone either way and if rosesphere had most of their members properly done counters including if alpha had actually declared wars we would of lost the whale tier war. Not sure if you noticed, but we only had included rose + another alliance in the blitz itself as we were nowhere near close to be able to blitz the whole of rosesphere itself.

You disagreeing? Do you think eclipse is not succesful?;p

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When a war is super short (a week) people get disappointed/sad when a war is a decent length (2-3+ weeks) people still Get sad in some cases some people get upset because they didnt get what they want and start to throw a hissy like a child, it’s fine LB. Maybe next time:p

Well fought, backroom.

You know something is wrong when both me and horsecock agree on something for once. When you easily surpassed the most downvoted forum post which was NPOLT there is clearly something wrong. And no, it's not only Clock, but rather the whole game other than Celestial + HW who formed the MDP, surprise surprise.

If you were that paranoid and scared of a chain from Clock, why not just stay milled up? Look at the tiering above ^ you instead decided to form a MDP treaty with the only other biggest and strongest sphere in the game? What kind of joke are you playing? is this how you want to move the games direction to from now on? this is rather disappointing. Remember though guys, clock is the bad guy here. T$ are the victims.

As one of the leader of Clock I can certainly say we had no intention of fighting anyone else other than Backroom for their plot on hitting clock. Clock with HoF is still not strong enough to beat either Celestial or HW in a 1v1 let alone without them. So just because you're being paranoid of a weak sphere possibly chaining you make a temporarily MDP with the other biggest sphere? what kind of joke is this.

Wana, didn't you guys hit Oasis + minc alongside clock for the exact same thing you're doing right now? a temporarily MDP treaty?

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Well fought, GG no re (pls)

I have a solution, don't touch how the current beige system works and rather bring back the old war mechanics....also gib 50 score per city instead of 100

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Last time KT decided to become a farming aa and ally someone, they got themself rolled, became a raiding alliance and rolled their previous ally. @Cataclysm Watch yourself, they'll come after you next

I don't really talk alot on the forums, but i do want to correct you that you are simply "OP" because of the amount of whales/megawhales you guys have. It doesn't necessarily mean you are a good fighter either, you simply know how to click the "dogfight" button and thats all there is to it. This game doesn't require you to do alot when you have easy mode on and i don't blame you for it. As for why bollywood declared on you guys is quite simple honestly. Rosesphere clearly wanted revenge on you guys for dogpiling them in guns & roses. While you might not call it a dogpile because mystery and oasis jumped in, what would of had happened if they didn't? your intention was clear as daylight, to make it a dogpile against rose. I don't think you guys are stupid and I don't believe your side thinks we are stupid either, lets be honest. Hollywood deserves this rolling. As for GG let's be real -> Last time GG lost score (got rolled) was 2 years ago during dial up and that was a very slow death where it took months for GG to properly die. This was about time and deserved, now lets enjoy the wars please and thank you. There is too much salt though i'm quite enjoying it.

Based TLE Camelot you suck git gud scrubs