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We're reunited! Looking forward to working with you lot again

Whilst our time together in Ouroboros was unfortunately short, it proved to be one of our most memorable experiences. However, Eclipse and Weebunism decided that it was time to move on to new adventures. Eclipse and Weebunism officially give Rose and allies our 72 hours notice. Signed for Eclipse, Commander & FA Specialist - Vein Defense Specialist - Pascal Econ Specialist - Patrick Stewart Whale Specialist - Sphinx Internal Affairs Specialist - Avatar Patrick Tech Specialist - Putmir Signed for Weebunism, General Secretary: Empiur

There is nothing wrong with a NAP. We're peaceful farmers who want world peace. I don't think any of us disagreed that us hitting cata was not a dogpile. We didn't hit them to "dogpile" them, but rather because they came into TKR's defense despite having no treaties with them which was a concern to us. as for fair wars, We've had one... It was against rose and it was arguably one of the fairest war orbis has seen in a while. Not that PnW tends to have any fair wars, most wars and by history has been a dogpile. Some of us just dont care enough to pretend to be the golden kid by being sheeps acting like NAPs are the real problem of the game to gain some pr points. Don't be deceived by the 2 faced people!

Well fought by all parties

Eclipse never signed the no NAP bs for a reason. We never intended on being sheeps acting like no NAPs are a good thing for the game just to gain some pr points so to respond mainly for eclipses side, we do care about our image. As for the reason of us interfering was to not dogpile and get an ez win against Cata, but mainly because we had concerns about cata coming out of their way to defend TKR sphere despite having no direct treaties.

Eclipse has for too long been sitting idle. We've looked for opportunities to have a fun, interesting war and believe one has presented itself. Apologies to those who will get upset by this. Eclipse hereby declares war on those involved in the cataclysm offensive war.

Congrats, looking forward to this new sphere

This is just false. For someone who isn't in Cata you sure "know alot". Every war we've been in with Cata we've both decided to be for it. It was fairly easy to communicate with each other and agree as well as we had similar views on most things. Nobody was dragged into anything otherwise the wars would of never happened. @His Holy Decagon Would you like to confirm this?

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Correction, during the initial blitz we hit Rose, ASM and Voodoo considering at the time they were the most competent ones in rosesphere and it was the most reasonable act for us to specifically choose those 3 as we were nowhere near close to blitz everyone in rosesphere. I do remember this as i was one of the dudes who set up the blitz alongside Horsecock and others. Mind you post blitz we still weren't able to fully slot those 3 alliances due to the mass numbers on your side. CoA, Polaris, Alpha RnR, were untouched. I'm not exactly sure what was going inside rose or rosesphere itself, but I do agree with you that one of the main reasons why rose lost is due to poor coordination and lack of counters between the sphere itself (Rose, Vodoo, ASM, CoA, Polaris, Alpha, RnR) Perhaps this was something we (clock) was hoping on and kinda expected hence why we mainly focused the better alliances which were Rose, Vodoo, ASM. If the four alliances had responded correctly and had coordinated properly (Polaris, CoA, Alpha, RnR) We would of certainly lost the whale tier. Now i'm not gonna act like they're super good and would of been able to manage to do that. Thats another topic by itself, but at the end of the day they were on your side and were allies to you meaning the numbers were still there and had they coordinated together and properly done counters, clock would of lost. We were outnumbered in the whale tier, we were hard outnumbered and thats just a fact. No1 is disagreeing with you that downdeclares in this current meta is super op, Yes, Our megawhales + the combination of the lack of coordination/competence from your allies back then made us win this war. I remember this very clear as i was doing milcom from our side, but, All of our members had 3-4 wars declared each (and some 5-6 for some reason, but they died because of it) and were pretty much overextended. It took us around 48 hours post blitz to fully slot rose. (yes, I remember this as it was a tough war) There were many whales and even c36-38+ from Coa, Alpha and RnR and if used properly, this could of hurt us very bad/turned the war around. Fenris who was c48 or 49? at the time declared only 1 offensive war, I MEAN ONLY 1?! He could of easily dragged 3 of our megawhales down by himself + by the help of 2 CoA members. It took us 3 days to fully secure the war, mind you alpha was alive still as we still weren't able to touch them (we barely managed to drag down fenris, he ran out of warchest lul). By the 3rd day or so alpha had declared only 2-3 wars, I sent one counter against their leader and he went on a kamikaze logging in on all of his account mass declaring on us instantly killed 4-5 megawhales. ultimately, They got caught lacking for being multis and got banned for it, the day they got banned the war was fully decided. tl;dr That war was indeed the toughest and most difficult and fair war that orbis had seen in a while.

It was one of the toughest and most difficult and fair war that orbis has seen in a while. It could of gone either way and if rosesphere had most of their members properly done counters including if alpha had actually declared wars we would of lost the whale tier war. Not sure if you noticed, but we only had included rose + another alliance in the blitz itself as we were nowhere near close to be able to blitz the whole of rosesphere itself.

You disagreeing? Do you think eclipse is not succesful?;p

Alliance Categories: Best Fighters: Cataclysm Worst Fighters: Bourbon Street Most Surprising Entry: The Cosmonauts Best PR: your mom Worst PR: HW/celestial (MDP Treaty) Playmaker (In other words, who had the largest impact): Most Improved: GATO Failed to Meet Expectations: OWR Best DoW: Best Blitz: Cataclysm Worst Blitz: The Cosmonauts Player Categories: Best Fighter: Hidude Most Friendly: KittenGosCrazy Most Salty: Best Rookie (for those who popped their war cherry): Apollo/serp/Daedalus Best Troll: Goober Best eLawyer: Community Categories: Best Post: Funniest Post: Saltiest Post: Best Propaganda:

When a war is super short (a week) people get disappointed/sad when a war is a decent length (2-3+ weeks) people still Get sad in some cases some people get upset because they didnt get what they want and start to throw a hissy like a child, it’s fine LB. Maybe next time:p

Well fought, backroom.

You know something is wrong when both me and horsecock agree on something for once. When you easily surpassed the most downvoted forum post which was NPOLT there is clearly something wrong. And no, it's not only Clock, but rather the whole game other than Celestial + HW who formed the MDP, surprise surprise.

If you were that paranoid and scared of a chain from Clock, why not just stay milled up? Look at the tiering above ^ you instead decided to form a MDP treaty with the only other biggest and strongest sphere in the game? What kind of joke are you playing? is this how you want to move the games direction to from now on? this is rather disappointing. Remember though guys, clock is the bad guy here. T$ are the victims.

As one of the leader of Clock I can certainly say we had no intention of fighting anyone else other than Backroom for their plot on hitting clock. Clock with HoF is still not strong enough to beat either Celestial or HW in a 1v1 let alone without them. So just because you're being paranoid of a weak sphere possibly chaining you make a temporarily MDP with the other biggest sphere? what kind of joke is this.

Wana, didn't you guys hit Oasis + minc alongside clock for the exact same thing you're doing right now? a temporarily MDP treaty?