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What is a blood God to a vampire?

Not only that, but the social safety net in said environment. In countries with a weak safety net provided by the state people create their own safety nets by producing children. The children then grow up to take care of their parents, the more children you got, the stronger net get. Where as a country with a strong safety net means you don't need children to provide for you. That's why the rate of childbirth goes down when a country becomes richer and have social security resources for its citizens.

Does this mean Ibrahim will stop talking about ISIS?

Yeah, it's a game. Don't see a point in wasting hours on a thing where you have to do things in the exact same way everyone else is doing it. Not like anyone of us is gonna be able to play this on a pro level... yet.

That's basically because you're using your own alliance as a measurement. We don't want to be mensa. We don't want to be rose, VE or any top alliance. We're doing our own thing and in our own pace. You might not see a benefit in that but that's alright. Being in rank #38 doesn't exactly give us credibility. The thing with CF is that we're friends playing this game together. All of us playing know each other. That can be a drawback maybe, but we're loyal to each other, we can organize ourselves without having a clear cut leader. Idk how that will affect us when we grow bigger, but there are some things we can do that bigger alliances can't. But I agree that it's a bad idea to have a protector for too long. If an alliance can't build up its army and diplomacy within a month to stand on their own two feet that says a lot about them.

Honestly, right now you're both looking better publicly than your enemies. Like a Nicki Minaj to a Miley Cyrus.

I can totally see a point in wrecking someone's protectorates to ruin their rebuilding after the war is over, but that has a risk of making one seem quite ruthless in a bad way. But if what Partisan says is true (which I don't see a reason to doubt) then that changes the situation completely. There's more ways to make yourself in to a target than just declaring war.

Thanks for the explanation guys!

I'm not putting any moral judgement in my questions, I just think it's an interesting change of the nature of formal protection. I mean, if this will be a common occurrence from now then what will happen with alliances like arrgh and the syndicates line of business? I guess it's not that much of a change really, but it's still interesting since it wasn't mentioned that much in the proxy war as far as I remember.

No one goes unscathed in these mad times. But let me get this straight, you guys are basically just raiding that entire bloc (aside from VI)?

It's kinda odd to me that it's fair game to drag protectorates in to a war based on the actions of the protector. Is everyone doing this rn?

I think you're missing the point of my posts. I guess it's partly my fault for wording myself weirdly, but maybe also because you've talked to a lot of people who have the opinions you presume I have. The US appointing a black president is definitely a historically important thing to have in mind. It's proof that America has come a long way, given its past. And I mean, it's not like Sweden has ever elected a black prime minister. But I do object to your claim that afro american music wasn't seen as barbaric. Jazz was nationwide and internationally seen as black and therefore "animal music" that no upstanding white person should ever be seen listening to. Same thing with rock and roll when it was first birthed. Same with rap and hiphop. It's just in these past decades that hiphop has been embraced as anything but "thug music" and most studies made on the issue links it directly to the fact that it was/is made by black people and therefore looked down upon. The fact that hiphop is seen as a true artform these days is great. But what happens when afro-americans come up with a new music style? What will america and the world do to stop the racial prejudice from labelling that music as "thug music" as well? I could also talk about how black vs. white riots are talked about, how american police officers treat people of color (native americans, black, asian, latino, arabic etc) and so forth to prove that it's not as if America is this great place where everyone, no matter their skin color, are holding hands and singing kumbaya. Because no nation in the world lives in a post-racism state of being.

o/ VI I respect the fact that you're staying in war with a top 5 alliance just for the principle of it. Keep being honourable in the days to come.

I give up. I want my mom. Please send help.

If dio is the one true Lord and saviour then why haven't I gotten a stand yet?

Would the strong and beautiful cultural expressions in America have been able to grow if it wasn't for the thorny racial history? I don't think anyone can say anything but no. The thing I have an issue with is that a nation that doesn't try to actively embrace and foster a growing subculture comes in later on and claims it as a mark of said nations superiority, for its own gain. That's hypocrisy to me. Let me give you an example. Sweden has a strong growing video and computer game culture, in some way thanks to the government's involvements with fostering said culture for the past decades. In comparisons graffiti is pretty shunned here. If we as a nation were to claim that as our own if it suddenly became globally popular and influential that would be a shitty thing to do. Get my gist? A lot of the time subcultures are made despite the state it's born in, not thanks to it. Sure, the wounds of that struggle might give it it's distinctness but it's in my view kinda hypocritical of the US to claim jazz, blues, rock and hiphop as American conceptions when it was seen as barbaric, thuggish, animal music at the time. I'm not bringing this up to show America's everlasting shame or anything. What I think is important is to acknowledge it so as to learn from it. There's a lot of different groups of people in your country, which can sometimes be a great thing and at times cause fractions. But ignoring the differences between groups does not help, it only makes it so the ways in which those groups are being treated goes unnoticed. I'm kinda ranting rn. What I mean as a whole is that maybe it's best to think about the dynamics of claiming certain parts of a culture while still shunning other parts of that culture. AAVE is still shunned or not seen as proper English by a lot of people just as an example. And I'm mostly talking about the US because that's what the thread is about. If this was a thread about Sweden I'd be way harsher.

Rock and roll had it's roots in black music, so no I didn't forget that genre. I don't know about the history of country tho so that might be 100% part of the white south. And why I'm asking this question isn't to say "oh, the south is exceptionally racist" or divert attention from the topic. The question is rather, how can a state take credit for something that belongs to a group of people that it often shuns. That's cherry picking. If this was a thread about Bulgaria and someone tried to claim that things directly connected and originating from romani culture is a part of Bulgaria's superiority while not mentioning the horrible way in which Bulgaria treats its romani citizens I'd be inclined to ask the same questions. If black people are one of the reasons why the US prospered then why is America not doing more to treat afro-americans as full class citizens? And yes, the north shouldn't be counted off as well. I mean the riots in Balitmore, the stop and frisk policy in New York etc are all proof of discrimination and racial tensions in America as a whole. I just think it was an important question to raise since you're arguing for the south not being as bad as some think, while picking a lot of things that are directly related to afro americans.

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Now I don't wanna offend but how much of that can the south take credit for? Much of the things I think about when I think about influential southern music and art were from black folks, from slaves to second grade citizens during the civil right movement up until today when afro-americans get shot to death by the police. Plus the early economic success of the United States and the south were because of slavery, just like in Rome. Can you take credit for something that is was created and in a way belongs to one group of people that have been shunned, at least legally, for centuries in the region? Just fyi, I don't think every single person in the South are racist. My cousin, who's a muslim and an arab, seems to be doing alright in Texas. Nor do I think the northern region is guilt-free either. Edit: fixing some tiny errors in my grammar

We'll do it if you guys start a war against Rose today. Deal? this message is not endorsed by my alliance

I don't know who to root for!

This could be us but you playin'

Kyoko has a point, what does the international court of justice have to say about this?

The NAP had its origin after their war against us, we mutually wanted to extend it for longer than it is right now since it's better to write down our intentions of not going to war against each other's rather than both being paranoid about the other party. I mean, we don't wanna end up in the same situation the syndicate and upn are in right now.

It doesn't matter whether buorhann is a monster or not. What matters is where I can buy that hippo !@#$