Kastor

Why do people with vastly different goals and ambitions keep allying Alexio. Without a doubt everyone of these blocs fail without accomplishing anything, and yet, people keep going back. Amazing.

This, you can compete without destroying your competition.

As an older member of the game, someone who has been here for several years, I want to say a few things. When NPO wasn't a major power, the game was fun, we had a little toxicity, but a lot of the game were friends and interested in each other, we joined other IRC's and discords, we were very fun and easy to play with. A lot of fun things went on and healthy competition. MensaHQ was kinda bad, but that was mostly TUGT and Pfieffer. Then NPO came, and soon slowly the game got worse and worse, NPO used PnW reasons to roll MI5(tS and Rose) and big things started happening. Suddenly, wars were no longer fights and then handshakes(with a few terms) it was now tiresome, month long fights that NPO would drag out so people wouldn't fight them. They started telling their members not to even join friendly servers(Lordaeron), and created a hostile regime. Funnily enough, I don't blame them, with the amount of hate they received for joining the community, but everyone was right, they tried to kill the game. They tried their hardest, even cheating to do it. I just want to say I'm excited for the future, but I want people to remember a few things: -Don't tax your members 100/100, their job as members of your alliance is to play the game and create a community within it, it isn't to give all their power and resources to you for you to play the game against 15 other people. -Feel free to explore new alliances, but only do it if you feel like you can strengthen your community. -Shorter, more frequent wars. Limit to 1-2 rounds, there is no need to pound alliances. -Let grudges die after 1-2 wars, don't have huge lasting rivalries against a portion of the game. -Reshuffle allies every 6-12 months, don't go into the year with the same people you ended the previous with. -Be open to working with people you normally wouldn't. -Bring back Paperless -Top tier alliances should refrain from allying each other and never impeding their growth. -Never serve your alliance as leader for more than 12-24 months. If you've been the leader for years, you're doing it wrong. -Stop signing massive amounts of treaties as deterrents. -Stop hitting Protectorates when you fight their protector. If you do these things, NPO or anyone like it can never come back. For the people on the other side, you constantly belittled the NPOsphere and forced them to create that ideology. The everyday members constantly having to fight you for years, for things that 3-5 people started. Going forward, the biggest thing to stop the previous few years is to: Let the past die. Going forward, stop holding onto grudges. Stop having the same people dictate everyone else going forward. You are not safer with treaties, and it only binds you into a section and a google doc with your nations list on it. Start to protect yourself and start to grow. Thats all I had to say, I know people will disagree, I know people will start plotting and getting a bunch of allies. But going forward, I hope some of these points are adopted, at least.

Who is even left fighting?

I’m not gonna tell you what’s wrong or right to do, however just go take a break. Go outside, take a walk. Go hang with friends, grab a beer, take a girl out on a date. Spend time with parents, call some friends and catch up. but just stop being here for a couple days. Go do something productive in your free time for a few days. if anyone is in NA and wants to play LoL, hmu. Let’s duo or something.

Classless, imo. just end it and go home.

Yeah the 45 days is too long, its 14 days for a reason. However, I agree that you should be able to do more infra damage, looting no, but infra, yes.

If you pay IQ any money, they will turn around and hit you right after you rebuild.

If you give NPO any money, they will just hit you a week from the end of the war after you’ve rebuilt.

Thanks Wiggum, you’re doing a great job. Ignore these randoms trying to get you fired and tongue twisted into a response.

Read between the lines guys: IQ is broke, or needs money to compete. This is why they’re pushing for reps against you guys. If they had money, after 7 months they’d just peace. They need money to go forward because without it, they’d be at a disadvantage, not you at an advantage.

Say what you want about him, but BKnet worked almost exactly how he described it.

Yeah, we now know based off of logs that BK is mostly broke, and a lot of alliances have depleted their funds. NPO can supplement them, but for how long? Another 1-2 maybe 3 months, but now they have a lot more wars and their "top" that was "growing and making resources" now have to engage, and being against so many people, they'll have to overextend and get picked off. I don't think NPO will "lose" but I think they'll be forced to peace, whether that be a surrender or white peace depends on how long Coalition A drags this war out, tbh.

I agree with Leo, basically, we’re at the point where alliances don’t even need government members. There’s a bot that controls what they need, people are now just glorified advisors that talk to the leader. There’s no skill involved to separate alliances. Takes away from the fun, tbh.

can confirm.

Tricky. I would say any bot that can make a function that normally requires a person to click a button to function should not be allowed. IF that means recruitment bots are banned, then they should be banned. However, since there are other functions that stop spam(5 minutes for new nations) and other stuff, I believe that recruitment bots should be allowed, as long as Alex checks them.

He’s talking about his nation “in-character” so that doesn’t apply here.

At one point, you gotta ask, if everyone is teaming up against you and you're constantly fighting people who you were on the same side as when the war started, are you the good guys?

The difference is "in-game" and "out-of-game" even if something from "out-of-game" affects the "in-game" as long as said action wasn't taken "in-game" then Alex should not take action. Also, we don't know what BKnet does and doesn't do. There's too much in the air and too much stuff that we cannot say without a doubt that BKnet can and cannot do these things. Therefore George shouldn't get banned at all. If you want another rule example, Green was a player who was exchanging RL cash for In-game cash. Because of that, and it created an unfair advantage, Alex banned you from doing that, because it wasn't "fair". Alex did not ban Green, nor did he force Green to destroy the money he had obtained with it. Alex should keep that same philosophy with this, ban BKnet, scold George, and make a rule stating that if 3rd party account interact of give advantages through in-game functions, they're banned. Seems fair and everyone wins. Edit: It's not like George hacked into Leo's account or stole Leo's password through other means, it was public, for all to see, and gave a ton of people backdoor access. Because of that, Alex taking a hardline stance on it would basically be terrible. It's not like George used an exploit or broke the game.

There’s a difference between Alex taking a move to protect players and Alex overstepped the rules he’s created to punish a player. You’re asking for the ladder to happen. That’s what I think, and I think a lot of people think, is wrong. If it was just that he backdoored into BKnet, then what’s the difference between someone backdooring into a forum or discord? Both interfere directly with the game. So if George went into BKnet, a third party site, took out the money, and kicked nations and never physically logged into Leo’s nation, then shouldn’t be in trouble. Also, for note on the IP addresses, if Leo’s IP comes back(which I expect it will, actually) then I DEMAND that he’s banned for violation of the rules, and BK gets a bank fee taken off. If his IP comes back that means that they have been illegally using and violating the bot system to circumvent the rules. Which means that Leo’s wasn’t doing any of the transactions and they have been illegally hiding the bank for years. That’s worth at least a 30% deduction and a ban for whoever lied to you about how it works, @Alex

BKnet isn’t PnW, regardless of whether it was used or not, that isn’t in Alex’s jurisdiction to punish George. also, I’m pretty sure that BKnet was used to kick inactives, or at least has that function. Which is how BKers got kicked. doesn’t seem to break the rules, except BKnet, seems to be against the rules which makes me wonder why Alex allowed it. My main point is, it becomes super easier to hide the bank and reorganize it with this bot, making it impossible to actually take money. Surely this violates the fairness in trading and banking section of the PnW rules.

But he didn't log into his PnW account, therefore he didn't break a PnW rule.

Sounds like BK's system is actually against the rules, but since Alex could track it, he allowed it. I think the issue is that Alex allows people to break rules on the basis of if he knows about it. This shouldn't be allowed at all. This clearly violates the rules in several instances. Someone can move the bank in a war without ever having to actually log in. How do we know BK and BK's friends weren't using this to hide banks during the war, if they used it once, then Alex condoned rule-breaking. Which isn't fair to the rest of the player base.

If they got the password because Leo told them, or they used the BK scripts to do this, I actually don't have a huge issue. Leo's trust shouldn't have been broken, however he shouldn't have been dumb enough to give out his password to someone he didn't trust. I feel for him, but more and more it looks like he's the one at fault and not someone hacking into the game or one of his accounts. I think kicking BK members and hurting their community is actually fine if no illegal action took place. If someone couped Leo and did this, no one would have a huge issue and be wrapping themselves around them. I find it highly likely that Leo messed up along the line rather than someone actually hacked him.