Diocletian Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 You just stated my point! Why are we not challenging the status quo? Why are people NOT trying to make a difference! Instead of hiding behind alliance of big people, why are people not protecting those weaker than us? nations who want a chance, but cant? Well, Minister of Security, I will have you know that I am SICK of watching smaller nations and alliances harassed because they are not what the status quo wants them to be! As much as people seem to oppose my choice to stand up to raiders, I will continue to stand for those meeker than me and you. If no one else will strive to make a difference, then I will. And unlike the Viridian Incident, I will not back down when threatened. Wow, I just read that, and realized how corny that sounded. You're attention-starved something vicious, aren't ya JI? Now we're resorting to fallacies and OOC insults to 'prove a point?' C'mon man, I really hope you're not trying to refer the war we was recently involved in (that mind you, we got dog piled on at the outset). Anyway, whether you was or not, the pen is mightier than the sword pal. Except when you're talking about raiding allied individuals, then you just gotta piss enough people (and/or the "right" people) off and you can kiss your nation goodbye. That is what's known as the Politics side of P&W Quote "The happiness of the people, and the peace of the empire, and the glory of the reign are linked with the fortune of the Army." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 You're attention-starved something vicious, aren't ya JI? Now we're resorting to fallacies and OOC insults to 'prove a point?' C'mon man, I really hope you're not trying to refer the war we was recently involved in (that mind you, we got dog piled on at the outset). Anyway, whether you was or not, the pen is mightier than the sword pal. Except when you're talking about raiding allied individuals, then you just gotta piss enough people (and/or the "right" people) off and you can kiss your nation goodbye. That is what's known as the Politics side of P&W Sigh. No, Robert, I am not attention-starved. I could honestly care less if no one looked at this post. I am only making a point. I have stated my opinion, and have told the world what ATLAS is doing. That was all I intended to do. I didnt mean to affend the Viridian, Rose, or even Mensa. However, you are right. Who am I to question anything. Go ahead and feed off of younger nations. Hell, OBLITERATE as many as you want. I am done here. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 ATLAS will have no further buisness with Mensa or anyone allied with them. That is it, end of story. Forget everything else I have said. 1 Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I find it amusing that you catch flak from others outside of Mensa, but you're still centered on Mensa. Well, you did stay on topic at the very least. Just to clarify, I know we're labeled as raiders, but we mostly hit inactive nations. The recent attacks on Barten were initially inactive/non-aligned based, but a few folks pointed out he was a past raider that harassed our small nations early on in our history here in Orbis. So it changed from inactive/non-aligned reason to getting payback. It also didn't help that he had no military at all at the time of the attacks. Most targets we "raid" are inactive though. The targets that are not inactive and are hit mistakenly ( If in a Top 30 alliance ) or if they're in a small alliance but highly active - we generally pay them back if they get in touch with our leadership privately. We've also given out a White Peace when at war with a smaller alliance as well, no reps were demanded at all. If you feel the need to continue having a bad impression of us, well... we can't do much to fix that. 1 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 I find it amusing that you catch flak from others outside of Mensa, but you're still centered on Mensa. Well, you did stay on topic at the very least. Just to clarify, I know we're labeled as raiders, but we mostly hit inactive nations. The recent attacks on Barten were initially inactive/non-aligned based, but a few folks pointed out he was a past raider that harassed our small nations early on in our history here in Orbis. So it changed from inactive/non-aligned reason to getting payback. It also didn't help that he had no military at all at the time of the attacks. Most targets we "raid" are inactive though. The targets that are not inactive and are hit mistakenly ( If in a Top 30 alliance ) or if they're in a small alliance but highly active - we generally pay them back if they get in touch with our leadership privately. We've also given out a White Peace when at war with a smaller alliance as well, no reps were demanded at all. If you feel the need to continue having a bad impression of us, well... we can't do much to fix that. Sigh. I just...... GAH. I dont like having a bad impression of people. I like to think that all people have some good in them. And I respect you, Buorhann. I just hate to see injustice, and that other post I was involved with got me riled up. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 You have a pretty loud mouth about "injustice" for a guy running an alliance called the Crime Syndicate. Not to mention, anyone looking will see that it was Mr. ATLAS raiding Mensa inactives, not the other way around (despite his bs excuse of having been "hired" to attack a low-tier mostly inactive Mensa nation in the middle of a world war). So, tire iron, if you ever get past the crap tier of nations we'll be sure to welcome you into our range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 You have a pretty loud mouth about "injustice" for a guy running an alliance called the Crime Syndicate. Not to mention, anyone looking will see that it was Mr. ATLAS raiding Mensa inactives, not the other way around (despite his bs excuse of having been "hired" to attack a low-tier mostly inactive Mensa nation in the middle of a world war). So, tire iron, if you ever get past the crap tier of nations we'll be sure to welcome you into our range. 1. i was hired to attack them by Muhammed Ali Bas, but then I withdrew. 2. Ever since Oppilan granted me leadership status, I have transitioned the Crime Syndicate to a more peaceful alliance. I have also kicked raiders from the alliance. Anyone looking would have seen that. 3. I want no further trouble with Mensa. I just refuse to do buisness with them. This was established not 1 post earlier. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolatar Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Im pretty certain you didn't have to create a thread about not wanting to deal with Mensa... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Im pretty certain you didn't have to create a thread about not wanting to deal with Mensa... Well, sorry Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 3. I want no further trouble with Mensa. I just refuse to do buisness with them. This was established not 1 post earlier. This part isn't totally up to you, I'm sorry to say, and claiming that you were "hired" by someone else is really irrelevant. You were still the attacker and any profits from the attack still went to you as far as I can determine. If you want to make up for it, feel free to approach Vanek26 about paying reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 This part isn't totally up to you, I'm sorry to say, and claiming that you were "hired" by someone else is really irrelevant. You were still the attacker and any profits from the attack still went to you as far as I can determine. If you want to make up for it, feel free to approach Vanek26 about paying reps. This was a few months ago! Why are you just now aproaching me with this, then? Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 This was a few months ago! Why are you just now aproaching me with this, then? It wasn't even two weeks ago. https://politicsandwar.com/nation/war/timeline/war=47907 And anyway, you are the one looking to be quits with MensaHQ. But as others have said, we have long memories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Impossible! I havnt attacked Mesna within the passed week Oh. That guy But the Citadel is no longer a member of MensaHQ He is inactive, Beige, and alliance-less. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Impossible! I havnt attacked Mesna within the passed week Oh. That guy But the Citadel is no longer a member of MensaHQ He is inactive, Beige, and alliance-less. And? You still attacked him when he was Mensa and we were in the midst of a war. Maybe your attack was the last straw that led him to quit pnw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 He was inactive when i attacked, and he is still inactive from 5/21/15. He hasnt been on since before my attacks. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 He was inactive when i attacked, and he is still inactive from 5/21/15. He hasnt been on since before my attacks. If you say so. Don't give us any silly stories about your "moral code." You might want to hover around your current score; think of score growth as a sort of Rubicon for you - once you cross it, you become vulnerable to payback for your own moral failings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 If you say so. Don't give us any silly stories about your "moral code." You might want to hover around your current score; think of score growth as a sort of Rubicon for you - once you cross it, you become vulnerable to payback for your own moral failings. Payback for what? I attack a nation that was inactive for almost a week. I havnt compromised my moral values. And fine. Threaten me all you want. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avruch Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 It's no threat, it's not like its me or any other Mensa member attacking you or pasting big insults about you in our profiles. When you see a "TIRE IRON OF ATLAS IS MENSA PUBLIC ENEMY #1" thread, then you can complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 It's no threat, it's not like its me or any other Mensa member attacking you or pasting big insults about you in our profiles. When you see a "TIRE IRON OF ATLAS IS MENSA PUBLIC ENEMY #1" thread, then you can complain. Fine. Listen, the reason for this post was because I was pissed at something I had seen earlier today, and I was responding to it. Now I see that this has been blown way out of proportion. if I could delete this thread, I would. I want no trouble, either from Mensa or anyone else. i want to tend to my nation, and slowly grow and be the best I can be. That is all I wanted. Not like Mensa will DO any buisness with me anyway. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Which is why, as of this moment, the ATLAS Mercenary Corporation is officially dissolved. ATLAS will no longer take ANY clients. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutwa Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) The only type of raiding that should be allowed, if any, is raiding inactive nations that are inactive for a month. Thats fine, dont let there resources go to waste. Payback for what? I attack a nation that was inactive for almost a week. I havnt compromised my moral values. So no raiding a nation that has been active in the last month, or is that almost a week? Edited June 11, 2015 by Mutwa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 So no raiding a nation that have been active in the last month, or is that almost a week Look, Im done. Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanek26 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Let me get this straight: You are claiming someone paid you to attack a single, inactive player in the middle of a world war? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRBOOTY Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) we don't care, and we will raid who ever, when ever. If they aren't in an alliance then they will be raided, and it doesn't matter how active they are, if they aren't in an alliance then they will get raided, that's just how it works.Lol the Rose charter says the exact opposite of this. There's actually similar language to what he said in our charter Edit: otherwise, this thread is a complete shitshow. Everyone should stop commenting. Edited June 11, 2015 by MRBOOTY 1 Quote MR BOOTY IN DA HOUSE http://i.imgur.com/R5WWAB1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Baldarius Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 I agree. My rep is ruined, I have been proven to be a hypocrite, Mensa will kill me the first chance they get, I have no moral code..... how do I lock a forum chain? 1 Quote THE NEW PRUSSIAN EMPIRE! Kaiser Nikolai Baldarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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