Kaz Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) I’m glad to see this one finally gaining some legs. I suggested something very similar to help the smaller nations get back on their feet following the Dial Up war. I personally feel this should be an ongoing project beyond C5. It doesn’t necessarily need to be 1 extra unit. A simple 25-50% production increase could get it done without throwing the game out of equilibrium of raw vs manufacturing. Edited October 21, 2021 by Kaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrik Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 9:56 AM, Prefontaine said: What project is better for someone with 3-5 cities? Propaganda Bureau, CIA, maybe even the CCE (although Infra isn't really that expensive for someone in the 3-5 range). Actually, this would make the most sense for someone in the C10-C15 range. Someone in the C3-C5 range should be raiding. Someone in that range is best off getting a bunch of soldiers and the Propaganda Bureau so they can raid inactives and steal their money. There's no point for a whale to build this. 180 resources a day is nothing to a C40 nation. However, $720,000 in resources a day is still fairly significant to someone with C10 and a very military heavy build. That's a bit too big to be an effective raider though and you've also lost the new player bonus. If you're very military-heavy then you probably don't have enough commerce, meaning that you're basically relying on sales of manufactured and raw resources to pay your bills. A built up C10 player (not a pirate) will probably have 1500-2k infra per city so they have 5-6 project slots. So you probably have PB, CIA, and probably missiles (maybe CCE or nukes if you've got a really good alliance that helped you out but most C10 players don't have the nukes). That leaves an empty slot or two depending on your war wins and something like a free $720k in resources a day might actually be useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefontaine Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 7:35 AM, Baldrik said: Someone in the C3-C5 range should be raiding. Again, not everyone plays the game in this manner. If you're not raiding this project gives the most benefit at the early stages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigbigadorlou Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 3:53 PM, Sweeeeet Ronny D said: I could be out of the loop here, since i haven't dealt with little nations in a few years in this game, but at 3 cities, are you really in a position to actually have a project slot open? you would need 1667 infra per city to hit 5k infra. Keep in mind there isn't a city timer for c1-10, so even orcas like myself can get a new nation to c10 on day one with minimal effort. On 10/25/2021 at 2:31 PM, Prefontaine said: Again, not everyone plays the game in this manner. If you're not raiding this project gives the most benefit at the early stages. This 100x. I believe the current meta pushes away a lot of otherwise good players that don't like the war system much. I doubt I would have continued to play if there was a raiding meta when I started. You honestly should just say 3 resources per city since its always 3 resources per city. A lot less ambiguous that way. Quote Hey Krampus, the signature edit is under account settings. Actually, here's the link. https://forum.politicsandwar.com/index.php?/settings/signature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeeeet Ronny D Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 7:35 AM, Baldrik said: There's no point for a whale to build this. 180 resources a day is nothing to a C40 nation. I would build this in a heartbeat. (I have 42 cities) You are giving me something with a ROI of less than 1 day? Hell ya I am building that, especially considering most of the stuff I buy at my size has an ROI measured in months or years. 3 hours ago, zigbigadorlou said: even orcas like myself Look at you silly mid tier nations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prefontaine Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 On 10/28/2021 at 9:56 AM, zigbigadorlou said: Keep in mind there isn't a city timer for c1-10, so even orcas like myself can get a new nation to c10 on day one with minimal effort. New nations start with a project slot, to answer the quote in your post. I can't see those posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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