Auctor Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 It's in the articles dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 IDK. I'm not seeing any of what I posted mentioned there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---- Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 Makes the determination even easier if that's the case. An authoritarian system without some kind of aspirational utopian end goal doesn't even appeal to the average know nothing kook. Authoritarianism does not have be utopian to possess popular appeal. The promise of order, the resolution of certain national problems, and general promise of effectiveness sometimes suffice without utopianism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Syndicatism is probably a better solution Quote "We pull in money, new recruits, all just to combat cipher, rubbing our noses in bloody battlefield dirt, all for revenge." "Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night i can feel my leg, and my arm, even my fingers. The body i've lost, The comrades i've lost, won't stop hurting... it's like they're all still there... You feel it too, don't you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Internationalist Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Syndicatism is probably a better solution Syndicalism IS the better solution. TBF uniting left-wingers or uniting right-wings is like herding cats, just imagine what unifying both would be like. (Seriously the left-wing and the right-wing don't want to be unified, they want to be right.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---- Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Syndicalism IS the better solution. TBF uniting left-wingers or uniting right-wings is like herding cats, just imagine what unifying both would be like. (Seriously the left-wing and the right-wing don't want to be unified, they want to be right.) The professional/leading ideologues will remain obstinate. But uniting the left and right masses/followers against a perceived common enemy, such as bourgeois liberals, especially those from the outisde, is possible if the removal of the enemy is prioritised over being 'right.' That's simple pragmatism. The wartime Allies demonstrated this pragmatism in their destruction of the fascists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Fascists continue to exist. (The peer reviewed and accepted criteria for identifying fascism gives Putin an almost perfect score as an active fascist. As for trying things before deciding if they work or not, we tried the Articles of Confederation until noticing how poorly it functioned and adopted our current Constitution in 1789 after giving the Articles of Confederation ~13 years of a chance to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon69 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 I don’t wish to divert the extant Communism thread, so I started a new thread regarding National Bolshevism. I know you just want to discuss the merits or something but it'll never work. As any political system can be hijacked and twisted into something quite contrarian. That or the CIA will destabilise the government and then claim look how evil and shitty Bolshevism is. Their is no winning, evil will always prevail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Communism could work. We've never tried it. Capitalism could be said to be just as terrible a system as the USSR's clumsy attempts at combining massive, rapid industrialization while trying to maintain a system they should have read wouldn't work in their country/economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Oh please do be quiet you Communist who denies he is a Communist, just on and on with you. Communism has been attempted and they could not even pass the damn initial steps to supposedly make it possible. It is bust. It is bankrupt. It is a failure. Only with modifications can it work but then it ain't this "true Communist" you always jabber on about. It failed, it will forever fail, and will not happen. Deal with it and grow up please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Oh please do be quiet you Communist (still not a communist, starting the fiction a lot earlier this round), th who denies he is a Communist, just on and on with you (Just because I argue on behalf of something doesn't actually mean I'm a member or it even relates political views. . Communism has been attempted (Nope) and they could not even pass the damn initial steps to supposedly make it possible.(Lack of following the directions commonly makes things not work.) It is bust.(What's it? Communism doesn't need money, it's a concept, if you mean Venezuela it's already established that they're not bankrupt even if you ignore my examples as whoever that other person is.) It is bankrupt. (Nope) It is a failure.(Nope) Only with modifications can it work but then it ain't this "true Communist" you always jabber on about. It failed, it will forever fail, and will not happen. Deal with it and grow up please. It hasn't been attempted. it can't have failed as a result of that previous issue where it hasn't been done yet. It's funny that I'm supposed to grow up when you argue like a petulant child constantly Shalom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Only a Communist, and a so called "pure" true believer at that could hold such delusions. Not to imply that your knowledge is all that as a simple question on Anarchism trips you up and you have to constantly refuse to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicente Martinez Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Shalom! I said they were broke, not bankrupt.You said they weren't despite that so obviously being the case. Quote "If a person is satisfied with everything,then he is a complete idiot.A normal person cannot be satisfied with everything."~Vladimir Putin "Every human being makes mistakes."~Ian Smith We do not know what tomorrow will bring. We are not prophets. This is a step in the dark. We can only proceed into the future with faith.~Pieter Wilhelm Botha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicente Martinez Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Oh please do be quiet you Communist who denies he is a Communist, just on and on with you. Communism has been attempted and they could not even pass the damn initial steps to supposedly make it possible. It is bust. It is bankrupt. It is a failure. Only with modifications can it work but then it ain't this "true Communist" you always jabber on about. It failed, it will forever fail, and will not happen. Deal with it and grow up please. Venezuela is awful, but it's not a failure. Quote "If a person is satisfied with everything,then he is a complete idiot.A normal person cannot be satisfied with everything."~Vladimir Putin "Every human being makes mistakes."~Ian Smith We do not know what tomorrow will bring. We are not prophets. This is a step in the dark. We can only proceed into the future with faith.~Pieter Wilhelm Botha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Brother Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 National Bolshevism is more similar to National Socialism than Communism. It is a far-right ideology that does not deserve a platform or support in any way. Also, it's Nazbol not Natbol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Only a Communist, and a so called "pure" true believer at that could hold such delusions. Not to imply that your knowledge is all that as a simple question on Anarchism trips you up and you have to constantly refuse to answer. I don't recall failing to answer anything. As for talking about the theory, if you read the manifesto people constantly misidentifying things that aren't communism are is annoying to keep correcting, but without doing it people like you would make stuff up, pretend it was posted and react to and maybe give someone the wrong idea about that particular issue or economic system. You've entirely failed to identify my actual politics and you're mostly going the wrong direction in guessing. It's not a secret, it's a pretty well known thing in a number of alliances that've asked overtime and once and a while comes up in public channels where I give it. I said they were broke, not bankrupt.You said they weren't despite that so obviously being the case. They're not. Venezuela is awful, but it's not a failure. Meh, it's a reasonably good example of why basing your entire economy on one natural resource is a bad idea, but that's not really a fault with anything to do with any choice of economic system. It's just not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon69 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 National Bolshevism is more similar to National Socialism than Communism. It is a far-right ideology that does not deserve a platform or support in any way. Also, it's Nazbol not Natbol. Their is absolutely nothing wrong with National Socialism. If it was so bad Germany wouldn't have been able to make half of Europe sweat bullets. Don't compare pears and apples. NatSoc is as close to communism as it is to Capitalism Communism could work. We've never tried it. Capitalism could be said to be just as terrible a system as the USSR's clumsy attempts at combining massive, rapid industrialisation while trying to maintain a system they should have read wouldn't work in their country/economy. They were so busy redistributing the wealth/food they forgot to leave some for the producers(Ukraine). Speaking of clumsy attempts check out their Red neighbour China's bumbling about. (Maybe Communism is for retards) How exactly is Communism suppose to be implemented with out a government giving it structure or enforcement. People are by nature very selfish and I don't mean selfish as in running away with all the money. I mean by amassing a fortune as a security for your family. The narrative of the evils of communism has been pushed so hard I doubt anyone will even bother to look into it as they know it as that thing that just never has and never will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Thank you for bringing more attention to these correct posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rozalia Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 LOL! Please stop deluding yourselves. That is why people call you guys Communists no matter how much you deny. Only a Communist, one of the total loonies at that could be that deluded on those things. You think Communist does the opposite of such things (lets ignore the market stuff) but that is only in make believe fantasy land, in reality they are much like those Fascists you're attacking with that. Communism is nice if you follow orders and agree with it, and it gets violent when you don't play ball. Everyone knows this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Having never happened it's kind of impossible to provide examples of how it doesn't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon69 Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 (edited) LOL! Please stop deluding yourselves. If you walk into a room of people engaging in anal sex with a pig you tell them they're !@#$ed up. You know it's time for you to do a little introspection and give thought to the possibility that maybe you are in facts the !@#$ed up one. That is why people call you guys Communists no matter how much you deny. Only a Communist, one of the total loonies at that could be that deluded on those things. You think Communist does the opposite of such things (lets ignore the market stuff) but that is only in make believe fantasy land, in reality they are much like those Fascists you're attacking with that. In reality Communism has never been tried out. Stop living in your "make believe fantasy land". Where Donald Trump and his Globalist Elites feed you lies to convince you this is the only and best way. Edited June 1, 2017 by Pylon69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeMilton Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 LOL! Please stop deluding yourselves. If you walk into a room of people engaging in anal sex with a pig you tell them they're !@#$ed up. You know it's time for you to do a little introspection and give thought to the possibility that maybe you are in facts the !@#$ed up one. That is why people call you guys Communists no matter how much you deny. Only a Communist, one of the total loonies at that could be that deluded on those things. You think Communist does the opposite of such things (lets ignore the market stuff) but that is only in make believe fantasy land, in reality they are much like those Fascists you're attacking with that. In reality Communism has never been tried out. Stop living in your "make believe fantasy land". Where Donald Trump and his Globalist Elites feed you lies to convince you this is the only and best way. Facts are facts. Maoism has been attempted. Marxism-Leninism has been tried (to get around the prerequisites. Juche has been attempted. non-Communist socialism has been attempted (and has done pretty well). Stalinism has been tried (it's literally fascism), etc. When not specifically noted otherwise, we're talking straight Marxism, which absolutely hasn't been tried yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I like your Milton gimmick Pylon69, you really play the role well. Nice job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pylon69 Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 I like your Milton gimmick Pylon69, you really play the role well. Nice job. I don't understand you..... Heil Hitler O/ Facts are facts. Maoism has been attempted. Marxism-Leninism has been tried (to get around the prerequisites. Juche has been attempted. non-Communist socialism has been attempted (and has done pretty well). Stalinism has been tried (it's literally fascism), etc. When not specifically noted otherwise, we're talking straight Marxism, which absolutely hasn't been tried yet. I have to agree. I think this threads been derailed in a sense. Look at the topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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