Frederick Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Actually the objectively relevant question of import is how it impacts peoples votes. What I responded with. The subjective question is your personal opinion on if they should or not. "every poll said that Trump had won the debate" Are you young? You clearly bring the propaganda of r/trump and /pol/ here. Yet you actually seem to believe their trolling. I think they may have legit trolled you. You realize that the online polls were spammed by 4 chan right? The actual polls that actually represented voters did not show that Trump won the debate. They showed that he lost. Which predictably showed up in the general election polling. Have you noticed me running anywhere son? I stick it out and win (like Trump except that I will actually win). I am sorry that I hurt your feelings by calling you a racist. Were you in fact being a racist at the time? Probably. I have put my money where my mouth is but I doubt that you will. Will you join Roz in his bet? My "money" is on the line with my mouth. I bet you are too scared to do the same. The statement about the polls was based off the assumption that you-like a typical liberal-based merit off the majority will(or the mob as I would say). You talk about the influence of Trump's statement on the votes of Evangelical women, but you brought it up in a manner that had absolutely no relation to the topic at hand. We were debating on the merit of the media's immense covering of the subject, not the opinions of Evangelical women and yet you bring it up to satisfy your so massively inflated ego. I admit that perhaps the topic would then be subjective, but then again your "objective" statement did not "objectively" have any significance whatsoever in relation to my earlier comments. You say you put your money where your mouth is but you would first have to explain what the purpose of your first quotation of me was. I pointed out that your information was irrelevant to the topic being debated(which was not about the effect of the statement made by Trump) by myself and others and all you have managed to do is make a big fool of yourself because you haven't actually proven anything except that you have an insatiable need to enter every conversation with some entirely unrelated "analysis". In other words, don't tell me that I didn't reply to your analysis when there was nothing to reply to. "Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die." -excerpt from the Havamal "We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man." -Oswald Spengler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinevere Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 First off, Trump did not talk about sexually assaulting women; he simply said that he grabs women "by the !@#$". This can be interpreted in as sexual assault but it can just as easily be interpreted as wanting to engage in sexual activity with women. Regardless, it is still a completely irrelevant incident that should not even be as blown up as it is right now. Trump said somethings that might be "offensive and disgusting", but Bill Clinton was molesting and actually sexually assaulting women while in office. Yet, Donald Trump is offensive and sexist so lets talk about some conversation he had many years ago because the racist card is getting old.Let's not forget every wife trump has had was the one he was cheating on with the previous wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Lol, I don't even have a clue as to what you are referencing, but it looks like you took the bait hook, line and sinker. I can empathize, though. I wouldn't want my candidate to have had past voice clips proving that he is an incurable misogynist who probably engaged in many actions which would be considered sexual assault if reported. I understand. You are afraid that Mr.Trump will take away your government handouts. I am so terribly sorry for you. It must be so so hard having to live off of the money of hard working tax payers so that you can complain about oppression and privilege. People like you are why America is degenerating so quickly. Tell me, are you an illegal immigrant? That would certainly explain your obvious insecurity. "Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die." -excerpt from the Havamal "We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man." -Oswald Spengler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I understand. You are afraid that Mr.Trump will take away your government handouts. I am so terribly sorry for you. It must be so so hard having to live off of the money of hard working tax payers so that you can complain about oppression and privilege. People like you are why America is degenerating so quickly. Tell me, are you an illegal immigrant? That would certainly explain your obvious insecurity. Ahahahahah. I am firmly in the top 5% of the US income distribution, and will reach 1% eventually. I finance those handouts, not the other way around kiddo. And no, I am not an illegal immigrant. But thanks for trying o/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Ahahahahah. I am firmly in the top 5% of the US income distribution, and will reach 1% eventually. I finance those handouts, not the other way around kiddo. And no, I am not an illegal immigrant. But thanks for trying o/ That makes sense too, since the globalists tend to appeal to the plutocrats and economic elites. Thanks for the information as I can now rationalize your thought process as "personal interest". Here is a bit of advice. If you want to help the disadvantaged and poor, donate to charity. Don't screw around and !@#$ the middle class in the process with welfare. You !@#$ up the middle class, the economy comes crashing down so stop wasting your time and your money. "Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die." -excerpt from the Havamal "We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man." -Oswald Spengler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Let's not forget every wife trump has had was the one he was cheating on with the previous wife. He cheated on his first wife with his to be second. He did not however cheat on his second wife with his to be third wife from what I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Lads don't bother with LordRahl2, he won't be around here much longer now. choking women to establish dominance is what you should be doing boyos I will leave that there. Just in case. Keep running away Roz. It is just as I planned. The statement about the polls was based off the assumption that you-like a typical liberal-based merit off the majority will(or the mob as I would say). You talk about the influence of Trump's statement on the votes of Evangelical women, but you brought it up in a manner that had absolutely no relation to the topic at hand. We were debating on the merit of the media's immense covering of the subject, not the opinions of Evangelical women and yet you bring it up to satisfy your so massively inflated ego. I admit that perhaps the topic would then be subjective, but then again your "objective" statement did not "objectively" have any significance whatsoever in relation to my earlier comments. You say you put your money where your mouth is but you would first have to explain what the purpose of your first quotation of me was. I pointed out that your information was irrelevant to the topic being debated(which was not about the effect of the statement made by Trump) by myself and others and all you have managed to do is make a big fool of yourself because you haven't actually proven anything except that you have an insatiable need to enter every conversation with some entirely unrelated "analysis". In other words, don't tell me that I didn't reply to your analysis when there was nothing to reply to. I base polls off of what they should be - things that poll a sample to determine the thoughts of the population. Crazy huh. Yes, democracy is governance by the majority. Crazy concept - I know. The topic at hand was what we thought of Trump after his misogynistic conversation was released. I think it will impact his election. I backed up my thoughts with analysis to include evangelical women. So it was "related to the topic at hand" - I assume you read the OP of this thread? My objective statement was objective and significant. I am sorry you do not know the difference between subjective and objective. Nor did I reply to you. I merely mentioned that you tried to troll everyone but tried to ignore my analysis (as you continue to do). Again, you appear not to have read the OP, who provided a broad topic, I responded with substance. You tried to wiggle away from a substantive debate. You still are really - you are just attacking me personally. You have, as yet, failed to reply to the substance of my initial response. Do you simply accept that I am right? I challenge you to put your money where your mouth is since you decided to bring it up. Join Roz or admit that you are scared to do so. -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 That makes sense too, since the globalists tend to appeal to the plutocrats and economic elites. Thanks for the information as I can now rationalize your thought process as "personal interest". Here is a bit of advice. If you want to help the disadvantaged and poor, donate to charity. Don't screw around and !@#$ the middle class in the process with welfare. You !@#$ up the middle class, the economy comes crashing down so stop wasting your time and your money. You've got it all wrong, though. I am a progressive who wants to tax the super wealthy to fund the public goods and transfers. But you are right in that I benefit from globalization on average. All high skilled people do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 You've got it all wrong, though. I am a progressive who wants to tax the super wealthy to fund the public goods and transfers. But you are right in that I benefit from globalization on average. All high skilled people do. Low skilled people do as well in an aggregate and absolute sense. The trouble is they do not automatically do so relative sense. Hence they believe, as Roz does, that they are in competition with some poor sod in Bangladesh. -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 I will leave that there. Just in case. Keep running away Roz. It is just as I planned. I base polls off of what they should be - things that poll a sample to determine the thoughts of the population. Crazy huh. Yes, democracy is governance by the majority. Crazy concept - I know. The topic at hand was what we thought of Trump after his misogynistic conversation was released. I think it will impact his election. I backed up my thoughts with analysis to include evangelical women. So it was "related to the topic at hand" - I assume you read the OP of this thread? My objective statement was objective and significant. I am sorry you do not know the difference between subjective and objective. Nor did I reply to you. I merely mentioned that you tried to troll everyone but tried to ignore my analysis (as you continue to do). Again, you appear not to have read the OP, who provided a broad topic, I responded with substance. You tried to wiggle away from a substantive debate. You still are really - you are just attacking me personally. You have, as yet, failed to reply to the substance of my initial response. Do you simply accept that I am right? I challenge you to put your money where your mouth is since you decided to bring it up. Join Roz or admit that you are scared to do so. Once again, posting along the lines of the topic for the over-arching post is not the same as responding directly to me and stating that I didn't address your analysis. The fact is your "analysis" was entirely irrelevant to me. Evangelical women find Trump's remarks to be offensive and sexist? Oh my, what a tragedy. If that is the deciding factor in their vote, perhaps they shouldn't vote at all. Also, America was always intended to be a republic, not a democracy. Yes, I know it is hard to distinguish between the two, but try harder troll. I never once refuted your statement that evangelical women would be less likely to vote for Trump; I simply couldn't care less about it. Hint: A republic is a middle ground between democracy and aristocracy; as such it is meant to ensure that neither the minority nor majority of people can take away the rights of the other. In a true democracy, the 51% can take away the rights of the 49%. The founding fathers knew this and saw a democracy as just another form of tyranny that should be avoided at all costs. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" -Benjamin Franklin "Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die." -excerpt from the Havamal "We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man." -Oswald Spengler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) You've got it all wrong, though. I am a progressive who wants to tax the super wealthy to fund the public goods and transfers. But you are right in that I benefit from globalization on average. All high skilled people do. If progressives want to tax the super wealthy then tell me, why do they support raising taxes across the board. This hurts the middle class more than it does anyone else and as I said before, charity is the best way to help the poorer classes. You would be giving your own money, rather than demanding that others-who perhaps can't afford the crushing taxes-pay for them when they have worked their asses off for their income. Welfare creates parasites who don't care to better their situation because they would rather keep living off the money that others are forced to provide. What you seem to be advocating is socialism and we will not have that in America. Edited October 9, 2016 by Octavius "Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die." -excerpt from the Havamal "We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man." -Oswald Spengler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Once again, posting along the lines of the topic for the over-arching post is not the same as responding directly to me and stating that I didn't address your analysis. The fact is your "analysis" was entirely irrelevant to me. Evangelical women find Trump's remarks to be offensive and sexist? Oh my, what a tragedy. If that is the deciding factor in their vote, perhaps they shouldn't vote at all. Also, America was always intended to be a republic, not a democracy. Yes, I know it is hard to distinguish between the two, but try harder troll. I never once refuted your statement that evangelical women would be less likely to vote for Trump; I simply couldn't care less about it. Hint: A republic is a middle ground between democracy and aristocracy; as such it is meant to ensure that neither the minority nor majority of people can take away the rights of the other. In a true democracy, the 51% can take away the rights of the 49%. The founding fathers knew this and saw a democracy as just another form of tyranny that should be avoided at all costs. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" -Benjamin Franklin You replied to EVERY poster but one. The one that you would actually have to debate rather than just rant at. If how people perceive something and vote, the entire topic of the thread, is irrelevant to you then why did you start posting? My guess it that it is highly relevant to you - you simply wanted to avoid a debate. I am glad however that you feel that you should be the arbiter of who should vote and what basis they should use to determine how to vote. I am familiar with what a republic is compared to a democracy. I am using the common usage for "democracy" and that is not a troll. So try harder troll. I would gladly have an adult conversation with you about republics, aristocracies, and democracies in another thread. I very much doubt that you care less. Otherwise you would not be posting itt. The entire point of you jumping in was to influence opinions and you knew a debate over facts would not let you do that so you attempted to avoid one with me. I also note that you refuse to put your money where your mouth is after attempting to call me out. Do you retract that accusation or have you decided to put your money where your mouth is? "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" -Benjamin Franklin Just FYI, Ben Franklin never said that. In fact it is probable that he never said the word "lunch" in his life as it did not exist in the English language when he was alive. The author of your quote is Gary Strad and popularized by James Bovard. -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace and War Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 This little scandal just reinforces what we all know about Trump, you either hate him or you love him, turns out most of us hate him. But even though it happened a decade ago, I think it should still be taken in to consideration that he was still a 60 year old man, so I find it hard to believe that his beliefs towards women has changed at all, which was already showed to us anyhow. "Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen M II Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) It must be truly dreadful! The bastard is gonna take away your food stamps isn't he?! That white devil... Well, I make $200K a year so food stamps aren't an issue for me, personally. Sit and spin on that, white devil! Hillary Clinton is a politician. She is someone that i would trust to open a door for me, but not someone that I trust to always fall on the same side of an issue. She has made mistakes (many of which have been blown WILDLY out if proportion) and I don't love her, but she is just a politician that does politician things. Donald Trump will grab you by the !@#$. There isn't really much more of a description needed of him. That one statement says that he has no respect for you and will take whatever he wants. That one sentence from him is also backed by a life time of stories about him taking advantage of people, not paying the little guy and outlasting them in court, harassing people into oblivion. Donald trump is a psychopath. He basically admitted to sexual assault by saying you can do whatever you want to women when you are famous. He has shown over and over that he has no respect for anyone that isn't him. If you are still voting for Donald Trump, are you not paying attention to what he says? Would you allow ANYONE else to get away with what he does? Would you hire a local school principal that said these things? Would you hire a mayor that said these things? Would you even hire a JANITOR that said these things? I am almost 100% sure that the answer to all of those is "no," so why is it "refreshing" to hear a president who "speaks his mind" like this? The answer to the last question is, his supporters (like you, Octavius) ARE deplorable and would do the universe an enormous favor by choking on a bag of gonorrhea infected dicks and in a burning house in which there is no escape. You're in the minority here. Carry on all you want and do your best to cause a scene, but many of us should take solace in the fact that you're the only one here that seems to be a complete and utter !@#$ that can't form a single post based in intellectualism. Have fun burning in that basket. Edited October 9, 2016 by Queen M 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemal Ergenekon Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 If progressives want to tax the super wealthy then tell me, why do they support raising taxes across the board. This hurts the middle class more than it does anyone else and as I said before, charity is the best way to help the poorer classes. You would be giving your own money, rather than demanding that others-who perhaps can't afford the crushing taxes-pay for them when they have worked their asses off for their income. Welfare creates parasites who don't care to better their situation because they would rather keep living off the money that others are forced to provide. What you seem to be advocating is socialism and we will not have that in America. False. That's what the corporate shills who get the progressive vote do. Socialism is a good thing. The Americans prospered whenever they had it, and suffered whenever they dropped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekejen Luish Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 So you guys that support Trump in his "man to man" conversation (on television in front of many viewers) would like someone that goes to the press conference or negotiating table and starts a "leader to leader" conversation on live national television? 'Yeah, I like to grab China by the Hong Kong and give them a nice !@#$ing.' This is very small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Trump Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 False. That's what the corporate shills who get the progressive vote do. Socialism is a good thing. The Americans prospered whenever they had it, and suffered whenever they dropped it. Soviet Union is fun, isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Soviet Union is fun, isn't it? Soviet Union was a command directed economy was it not? -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 The answer to the last question is, his supporters (like you, Octavius) ARE deplorable and would do the universe an enormous favor by choking on a bag of gonorrhea infected dicks and in a burning house in which there is no escape. You're in the minority here. Carry on all you want and do your best to cause a scene, but many of us should take solace in the fact that you're the only one here that seems to be a complete and utter !@#$ that can't form a single post based in intellectualism. Have fun burning in that basket. Charming. Nothing wrong with choking on dick/s so stop with the hate. This ain't Puritan times fella and people should be able to enjoy a spot of dick without having such hateful and likely homophobic attacks thrown their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Charming. Nothing wrong with choking on dick/s so stop with the hate. This ain't Puritan times fella and people should be able to enjoy a spot of dick without having such hateful and likely homophobic attacks thrown their way. Roz, I have repeatedly caught you making straight up no nonsense homophobic, racist, and generally hateful comments. Your credibility at calling anyone out for anything is zero. 2 -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Well, I make $200K a year so food stamps aren't an issue for me, personally. Sit and spin on that, white devil! Hillary Clinton is a politician. She is someone that i would trust to open a door for me, but not someone that I trust to always fall on the same side of an issue. She has made mistakes (many of which have been blown WILDLY out if proportion) and I don't love her, but she is just a politician that does politician things. Donald Trump will grab you by the !@#$. There isn't really much more of a description needed of him. That one statement says that he has no respect for you and will take whatever he wants. That one sentence from him is also backed by a life time of stories about him taking advantage of people, not paying the little guy and outlasting them in court, harassing people into oblivion. Donald trump is a psychopath. He basically admitted to sexual assault by saying you can do whatever you want to women when you are famous. He has shown over and over that he has no respect for anyone that isn't him. If you are still voting for Donald Trump, are you not paying attention to what he says? Would you allow ANYONE else to get away with what he does? Would you hire a local school principal that said these things? Would you hire a mayor that said these things? Would you even hire a JANITOR that said these things? I am almost 100% sure that the answer to all of those is "no," so why is it "refreshing" to hear a president who "speaks his mind" like this? The answer to the last question is, his supporters (like you, Octavius) ARE deplorable and would do the universe an enormous favor by choking on a bag of gonorrhea infected dicks and in a burning house in which there is no escape. You're in the minority here. Carry on all you want and do your best to cause a scene, but many of us should take solace in the fact that you're the only one here that seems to be a complete and utter !@#$ that can't form a single post based in intellectualism. Have fun burning in that basket. Would a banana calm you down? 1 "Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die." -excerpt from the Havamal "We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man." -Oswald Spengler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 You replied to EVERY poster but one. The one that you would actually have to debate rather than just rant at. If how people perceive something and vote, the entire topic of the thread, is irrelevant to you then why did you start posting? My guess it that it is highly relevant to you - you simply wanted to avoid a debate. I am glad however that you feel that you should be the arbiter of who should vote and what basis they should use to determine how to vote. I am familiar with what a republic is compared to a democracy. I am using the common usage for "democracy" and that is not a troll. So try harder troll. I would gladly have an adult conversation with you about republics, aristocracies, and democracies in another thread. I very much doubt that you care less. Otherwise you would not be posting itt. The entire point of you jumping in was to influence opinions and you knew a debate over facts would not let you do that so you attempted to avoid one with me. I also note that you refuse to put your money where your mouth is after attempting to call me out. Do you retract that accusation or have you decided to put your money where your mouth is? Just FYI, Ben Franklin never said that. In fact it is probable that he never said the word "lunch" in his life as it did not exist in the English language when he was alive. The author of your quote is Gary Strad and popularized by James Bovard. A democracy and republic are distinctly different forms of government and as such using the term "democracy" to describe the United States is going to warrant a response. I don't like repeating myself so I will say if for the last time. I did not refute your analysis on Evangelical women and thus you cannot accuse me of running away from a debate...unless of course you want me to play devil's advocate, but I have better things to do in my free time. My only response to you earlier was on whether Trump had won or lost the first debate, as you had said that he lost whilst providing no reasoning behind your statement. "Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die." -excerpt from the Havamal "We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man." -Oswald Spengler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 A democracy and republic are distinctly different forms of government and as such using the term "democracy" to describe the United States is going to warrant a response. I am fine with that. Would love to debate oligarchy vice democracy vice republic with you. Separate thread. I don't like repeating myself so I will say if for the last time. I did not refute your analysis on Evangelical women and thus you cannot accuse me of running away from a debate...unless of course you want me to play devil's advocate, but I have better things to do in my free time. My only response to you earlier was on whether Trump had won or lost the first debate, as you had said that he lost whilst providing no reasoning behind your statement. I don't like having to repeat myself. You clearly chose to flee from a debate the only one central to the OP of this thread. You continue to do so. You are asking for a follow up on Trump losing the fist debate? That is both common knowledge and easy to show. Observe RCP's polling since October 1 (about when the polls were conducted after the debate): +2.7 to +4.1 Thanks for clarifying your question. Now: I also note that you refuse to put your money where your mouth is after attempting to call me out. Do you retract that accusation or have you decided to put your money where your mouth is? -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I am fine with that. Would love to debate oligarchy vice democracy vice republic with you. Separate thread. I don't like having to repeat myself. You clearly chose to flee from a debate the only one central to the OP of this thread. You continue to do so. You are asking for a follow up on Trump losing the fist debate? That is both common knowledge and easy to show. Observe RCP's polling since October 1 (about when the polls were conducted after the debate): +2.7 to +4.1 Thanks for clarifying your question. Now: I also note that you refuse to put your money where your mouth is after attempting to call me out. Do you retract that accusation or have you decided to put your money where your mouth is? You may call it what you want but I've already wasted enough time on you. I've explained time and time again yet you still insist on your own self-delusion. You are once again using polls as "evidence" of Trump's victory following your own attack on their credibility. Speculation is irrelevant and when the votes come in, we will see who becomes president of United States. Meanwhile you can go back to your Utopian little world and contemplate on the meaninglessness of your existence. Keep deluding yourself into thinking you have actually won something, because it must be tiring getting all of those participation awards. "Your cattle will die, your friends will die, you will die. But your reputation, if it is good, will never die." -excerpt from the Havamal "We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man." -Oswald Spengler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl2 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 You may call it what you want but I've already wasted enough time on you. I've explained time and time again yet you still insist on your own self-delusion. You are once again using polls as "evidence" of Trump's victory following your own attack on their credibility. I attacked the credibility of online opt in polls. Why? Because they lack credibility. They are just spam. Would you like proof that people manipulate those polls? I possess said proof. I have heard this thing about "wasting time" from alt-righters before. It is a defense mechanism (run away) because they simply cannot allow their views to stand under the light of scrutiny. Speculation is irrelevant and when the votes come in, we will see who becomes president of United States. Meanwhile you can go back to your Utopian little world and contemplate on the meaninglessness of your existence. Keep deluding yourself into thinking you have actually won something, because it must be tiring getting all of those participation awards. I also note that you refuse to put your money where your mouth is after attempting to call me out. Do you retract that accusation or have you decided to put your money where your mouth is? If you do not put your money where your mouth is I will simply call you a chicken. -signature removed for rules violation- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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