Emperor Adam

Feel free to go read any of Partisan's responses. He's summed all this up rather well. That said, I'll repeat the most important point: If we were getting hit by all 3 anyways (or even 2, as we were fairly certain we were), we may as well take first punch on the most dangerous of the 3. Except, as I've mentioned multiple times now, we have government confirmation from both Rose and HM that they had backroom deals. In reference to this, I'll simply say there was a lot of conversation given Boyce's history as unreliable. That said, there was also enough to corroborate it and the actions taken both during our militarization and during the blitz more or less prove it. If you don't see how use hitting one sphere+tCW and then getting immediately counter blitzed by the two others implicated in the logs doesn't prove it, along with gov admission, not really sure what to tell you.

Correct.

By far my favorite shitposter this war. Well done. Should probably keep quiet about things you know nothing about, then. Remember what happened last time?

Precisely. So... where's Rose's and Swamps?

That's quite literally the line we've been fed. By lack of any other reasonable cb, we're happy to take the compliment.

Sure. As dumbed down as possible. 1. We receive leak from Boyce. 2. Given HM's hostility with us, we take the chance that they're already involved and mil up to hit on our own terms. 3. We approach Swamp (who has been rather friendly to us until now) and Rose letting them know we're not intending to hit them. 4. Rose shows signs via responses and military movements that they're readying up. 5. Swamp remains an enigma. 6. We hit. Rose and Swamp both counter blitz with completely formed offensives (thus proving the collusion was already there, it takes more than a few days to suddenly decide everyones going to hit Quack lmao). 7. Rosesphere gov reveals Swamp and Rose have a sooper sekrit MDP, and Rose proper has nothing to give as even a remotely valid cb. 8. Keegoz drops all bullshit (shoutout for being semi-straight) and reveals HM had a similar deal with Swamp. 9. All this culminates in proving there were already backroom discussions happening and alluding to the 3v1 dogpile being planned, albeit us ruining the plans a bit by pre-empting. I won't touch too much on TCWs involvement because it's already been gone over. That all said - this was inevitable. The only factor was who attacked first, and unfortunately for CoTL's city circles we aren't the type to sit on our hands and go out on someone else's terms. It boils down very simply to this: t$ and TKR (and the rest of the sphere, but mentioning us specifically since that's the main point of contention) are historically good at recruiting, training, and retainment. The other spheres see our competence as a threat, and if they had just admitted that at the get-go instead of making up convoluted bullshit about use becoming a hegemony (like... still have yet to see any actual proof of us heading that way? Lmao). Frankly I don't care too much about the dogpile itself. It's fun, it's a challenge. But at least be straight up and say you all worked together and it's because our combined competence is scary (shoutout to those who already have xoxo).

There's no "think" about it Ronny friend. It's confirmed by multiple gov members in your coalition As for why we're the odd ones out, the only semi-valid reason I've seen so far is "Quack is good at recruiting, retainment, and having competent members". While I appreciate the compliment, jealousy doesn't look great on you.

Hey! Like I responded to Thalmor, this pretense has already been disproven and dropped by multiple members of gov in HM and Rosesphere saying that backdoor secret treaties existed. You've only got your own people to justify this to, and when it comes down to it using this line of justification is pointless thanks to those admissions. Keep on the "Quack 2 smart" pretense. It fuels my ego.

Thalmor, my love, this line simply doesn't work. We've got confirmation from both HM and Rosesphere that backroom deals already existed. You've got no one to convince but your own people - so you may as well drop the pretense. It boils down very simply. We knew the hit was happening. We started it on our own terms, expecting Rose (and unsure of Swamp) to jump in. What I didn't expect was all the coverups. The cat's out of the bag, there's no point in keeping it up. We were being looked at because we have a competent gov/member base and numbers that rival (or exceed, according to a lot of folks in the thread) Swamps. Did we take a slight chance on the cb? Up for determination and based on opinion. Were we right? Certainly.

too soft also claiming pre-empt when camelot was the aggressor lul just admit jordan wanted free dogpile stats and be done with it

lol

#anyonebutprefontaine2020

Hi Monkey! Miss you mate, t$ chats aren't quite to same without you.

So you're admitting the dev team's a novelty and in reality Alex/you (probably mostly you) still make decisions on your own, regardless of community pushback?

EDIT: @katashimon13 you're welcome, we'll clean up your mess for you

Other than a certain tCW FA that suicided into us, Tjest is only at war with UPN. So yes, it's separate.

Tjest did not have relations to these women. Our stand against the tyranny of the UPN and Theo will not be depreciated by looping us in with some petty grudge war. We fight for orbis, swamp and HM fight for themselves.

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My right to tax shall not be infringed. Expect resistance.

I really like the looks of those QoL changes. Good work on those.

If you've had problems with him trolling internally for this long, it lines up as pretty damn suspicious that he gets removed now, and pretending the suspicion is unwarranted is hilarious. I'll hold out slight hope that this is an actual change and that UPN is done with him and will be better, but your alliance still has many many things to answer for and plenty of bridges to rebuild after the blind loyalty to IQ and the problems it caused. I wish you all luck and hope you prove our suspicions wrong.

Thank you, Alex. It took some time - but the self reflection and admitting you made a mistake is a good step towards a better game. Keep it up.

Anyone who refuses to recognize MCM's faux authority is good in my books. Glad to see some friends getting closer!

Of cour$e it would. A$ everyone $urely know$, we are the mo$t ble$$ed by our $avior RoI. $nek be prai$ed.