Tiberius

First you need the targeted audience to actually care about the logs, and we give 0 !@#$

The suspense is exciting.

Just a game, stop getting your knickers in a twist over being rolled and being offered terms for pixels that aren't real.

They are free to individually surrender. If they choose the option of quitting that's on them.

Coalition A: "We want different wars, not the same sides" Coalition B: "Here have 12 months NAP so we dont have to have the same sided wars for a year" Coalition A: ? thats ridiculous. Personally the terms aren't really that ridiculous and as Hodor says everything always starts at the extreme and gets negotiated.

I don't disagree that damage numbers are only marginal at this point, however income/resources production etc is more than marginal iirc, and so keeping you at war allows us to build our reserves back quicker is one way to look at it. Coalition leadership will decide what the goals of the war are overall, which I'm not privy to, so I am just speculating. There is always the option of individual surrender for those who don't wish to continue fighting, and there has been players who have taken that option. You did ask for terms prior to week 20, correct. You were provided with a term to surrender prior to the release of other terms. You didn't offer your surrender/accept that term until week 20. Does this mean that you are a very happy, tall, probably bald, fan gender neutral human, that does appreciate bad music while also being Patrick Stewart?

So one gov member saying they want you to disband, means we all want to disband you? I remember a completely different tone coming out of Coalition A when the same accusation was thrown your way when Sketchy wanted to disband us. Are you seriously trying to grab the high ground on a level plain? I dont think anyone is scared of fighting you in 6 months or more. In fact I'd bet that will be the next war anyway because you will want revenge. As a regular member of Coalition B I dont feel like the game is being stalled out for me. In fact I have more to do in game in war time than I do in peace time due to our collective play style.

Imagine declaring war from Vacation mode....oh wait!

On the flip side if you accepted those 86 terms war would end sooner too. Collective responsibility. No alliance can force another to disband. The only players that can disband an alliance is their own membership.

Loose lips sink ships coalition A.

Looking at damage dealt alone, we aren't even at damage parity. Which shows how long it takes to balance out the 2 war styles. I'd imagine taking other things into consideration such as income loss etc it's probably not too far off achieving damage parity but I could be way off the mark. The harder it is to achieve a decisive victory the longer wars will go on. In all honesty it took what 20 of those 25 weeks for Coalition A to decide to surrender and ask for terms. So a 2-3 week or a 5-6 week war is pretty much impossible to achieve if neither side are ready to admit defeat.

Sure in the majority of the past wars the damage has been done in the first few rounds and peace is usually achieved quite quickly as the other side capitulates. The whole landscape is changed now since there is two opposing war styles. The one used by your coalition where you go all out first few rounds getting maximum damage and then there is our coalitions warstyle of grinding through the first few rounds and then slowly gain control and grind out a victory. Unfortunately the upper tier are gravitating mostly to the same coalition. Which gives that coalition an advantage in the first few rounds. So in essence what you are saying is you want wars to be over once your war play style has achieved maximum damage without taking maximum damage by that point. When you look at everything in balance and equality then fast wars could be a thing. However no one wants to support that kind of game mechanic changes when they are suggested to enable that as an end result. So while there is an imbalance in tiers across alliances one side will always get the advantage in the majority of cases in the first few rounds. Therefore the coalition/alliances at a disadvantage in the first few rounds are going to extend the war so they can get in their desired damage.

Oh good, we are on course to deliver peace before Brexit.

If we are only getting a marginal advantage for keeping the war going then we for sure are not crippling anyone. Every alliance has or has access to substantial cash and resources to continue fighting should they wish so. That's the nature of the game this late into it. Your hegemony never needed to keep wars going for any length because there was less cash and resources around and alliances could not sustain a long war. A fun dynamic world only seems to have become a thing since the old hegemony has fallen. Curbstomps have been a staple part of this game forever. I'm sure the majority of general memberships still rather fight it out, which is still happening and they will shake hands and move on once it's over. Reasonable length is entirely dependent on the environment and situation of the war. It never is a time limited affair.

I mean crippling the alliances that pose a threat to us is the whole reason for warfare. We aren't declaring war to tickle you with a feather. If all future wars become dogpiles for us then you only have yourselves to blame for creating a terrible opposition to us. In reality this is the first war we have been involved in as the number one alliance. We've had to rise from the gutter the hard way and we never gave up. We've earned the opportunity to create a hegemony the same as all hegemonies throughout the history of this game. The only difference is that the ex-hegemons aren't in it and you dont like it. There is no victims here. If as you say we have a hegemony, then use the tools at your disposal to bring it down just like we had to do. Too many people look and plan to the short term in a game that's played over the long term.

In all honesty game politics very rarely encompasses a whole alliances membership. Alas I could say the same about TKR. Where are all your near 100 members? Does TKR practice isolationism? In reality only a handful of members are ever going to show an interest in the politics of the game outside of their alliance gov. The vast majority just want to blow stuff up, build a bit etc. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What may be quality content for you isn't for others. From my perspective the negotiations are on gov to gov level and so portraying what's happening to a general member such as myself isn't really doing anything because I don't really care. I have faith and trust in my leadership that they will point the ship in the right direction in what's best for my alliance. There also seems to be a process in place for negotiations to begin and progress. These games dont move very fast and so it's understandable to someone like me that negotiations are a dragged out affair.

It isn't general policy. I have 0 involvement in Pacificas internal/external runnings and my post count testifies to that. On the up votes/downvotes. We don't really care for or need the validation of others when we post. In most cases discussion etc takes place in our offsite active community. Furthermore most of the content here is just the same thing regurgitated over 5 threads. It got boring the first time around, arguing the same point over and over isn't suddenly going to become interesting and engaging.

When Coalition A down vote drones successfully downvote a Coalition B post....

4D chess in a 5D world.

Much like the mental gymnastics of coalition A while they whine about stalling negotiations yet continue jumping through their own manufactured hoops by contacting players who aren't the nominated negotiators and expecting to progress.

If I was the admin of this game, I would probably just be willing to delete you. Although maybe that has something to do with watching you post on the forums going against my principles. Good luck reaching a deletion.

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We live rent free in your head.

We will put you where we feel like because we are winning.

We kill each other, we kill the game = profit. Let's do this.