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Who is Lorderron? Is this a DoE?

TKR declares war on Lordareon. Surrender terms will be posted shortly for everyone except Kylo Ren.

I don't know every detail of what went on but I think the more you drag it out in public, the worse you'll come out looking. Resplendent was a good alliance and it was a tragedy when they merged with you.

Does the fact that nobody at all has come to your defense, and half the alliances in the game have come in to hit you whether they were invited or not, clue you in at all as to what the CB is? You sat at the sidelines taking shots at every easy target and committing to nothing. You grew to the most absurd heights despite having no real political power. So your infra gets shredded - That's what every alliance in this game deals with every 3 months, welcome to the party. You can't have a net worth of 1.5 billion per member any more, boo hoo.

We could have taken you down with a lot less, but it would have taken much longer. You like short wars, don't you?

This thread is retroactively the CB against TEst

Pre is trying to make the list of opposing alliances on the wiki longer

Damn, I was going to use this on Bubblegum's bank if it was an intended change.

So we can't steal treasures - that mechanic is absolutely dead at this point, just annoying management of nation colors for no reason. If an entire alliance bank is withdrawn into the alliance leader's nation, it can't be looted. We can't loot anybody at all that doesn't want to be looted. People like Mage or Bubblegum or Fraggle who don't care about infra are impossible to do anything against. This is all completely intended? Edit: I understand letting it play out a little bit, but I don't see how not having any possible way of beiging someone if they don't let you isn't just boring.

wow this is late Edit: I don't understand your video, but I like it.

As you all know, the TKR Aquarium has maintained the world's finest captive population of killer whales for several years now. However, the TKR Aquarium does not have unlimited resources, and these magnificent creatures were never meant to be kept in such a confined space. You have no doubt heard of the tragic incident where our beloved blue whale Pantheon was badly injured after several killer whales jumped into its tank. Although this incident was deemed a faultless accident, it illustrates the danger of complacency when dealing with large aquatic predators. The TKR Aquarium has also had difficulty providing the extremely specialized diet that our killer whales require. The only food source that killer whales show any interest in is freshly caught wild sea creatures that have managed to grow big enough for the killer whale to feed on, despite having no natural defense whatsoever against predation. A recent ocean survey has failed to find any more such food down to a depth of alliance rank #25. And finally, even if solutions could be found for our other issues, the aquarium is simply no longer big enough to hold these spectacular undersea mammals. They have not only been multiplying, but also growing larger at an unsustainable rate. It was previously believed that a killer whale could not exceed 20 cities or 3,000 infrastructure, but those proved to be woeful underestimates. Our killer whales barely have enough room to swim, and are yearning to be free in the open ocean. We know that our exhibit of killer whales has long been a crowd favorite, and the public will be sad to see them go. Believe us when we say that we’re going to miss our killer whales even more than you do. But come back soon to see our updated exhibit - featuring brand new ocean predators that are smaller, but more agile and every bit as deadly. Tl;dr: TKR is fighting TEst, Arrgh, and Roz

Good luck everyone.

Papers, Please

Alex, am I reading that last post in the other thread right? You completely and utterly !@#$ed us and gave us the worst outcome imaginable, an outcome worse than what anyone complaining in the thread was expecting. Put the new spy system in, and then give them all their spies back and don't refund us a cent. It would be ten times better than letting us keep a spy advantage and then making that spy advantage next to worthless. All we can do with the current spy system is blow up one or two more nukes per nation than we could have if we didn't have a few days head start. Current spies do nothing in the coventional war. We would never have sacrificed the element of surprise for that in a million years.

My only worry is that everyone in a losing alliance might end up being in beige so often we can barely spy them. Could gather intelligence and/or sabotage missiles/nukes be allowed to pass through beige?

My mistake, I was doing my math like it was 0-5% instead of 1-5%

I think we paid dearly for killing all those spies. I was against doing it, because revealing hostility to those alliances and losing all surprise wasn't worth 7% of their planes per day or whatever we'd get. You can give them back their spies, but you can't give us back what we spent. The ship has sailed. Any "reparative action" can only be completely one-sided.

Exploit because they can't go to war? There is a defense against spying, the person who gets spied can spy back. War does absolutely nothing against spies, it's only only a political deterrent. If you didn't intend anybody to spy during this, you could have disabled espionage along with new wars, but you left it completely open. People who were being fought when the war freeze began, like Alpha or Valyria or OOS, kept getting spied for days with nobody whatsoever suggesting that this was an 'exploit'. And people used that spy window against other alliances, and none of them thought for a second that it was an 'exploit' or that their efforts would be punished. By doing espionage they exposed hostility to the people they spied, which is going to have a major, major effect on some of the biggest alliances. And now suddenly, completely out of the blue, the whole spy effort is getting...undone, somehow? Can you give us any details on how we're about to get screwed?

You'd also prevent the beiged nation from doing espionage, right?

I did nothing but raid for a long time when I first joined, but eventually finding and raiding 5 targets a day was just a chore. Right now alliance organization is so much work and real wars take so much energy that the peace between wars is a welcome break. Lots of respect to Princess Bubblegum, that approval rating must have taken about 1000 wars.

If anybody thinks this is up for debate read the Charming Friends forum rules

Well, it was worth a shot. We'll teach Alex the meaning of Christmas someday.

It's a Christmas miracle. Happy wars, everybody.

but you're so lonely all on your own