Sir Scarfalot

Is that how relevance works? Huh. News to me

Confirmed, space and tab worked and I got it done in record time

Torture TKR with a whole bunch of election rigging BS for memes. Enumerated ideas: 1. Voters have to send in a hand-written ballot to a specific PO box 2. Voters must show an actual ID to vote 3. Voters are assigned a "district" randomly, and their district votes to determine which way the district votes 4. Voters are assigned a "district" by BK, and they have no say in the matter 5. Voters must get a doctors' note to certify that they're of sound mind 6. Voters vote for their preferences in order, instant runoff style. Then their votes are counted in reverse order (last choice is counted as first choice etc.) 7. Voters vote for their suggestions, which are forwarded to NPO, who then decides who actually wins 8. Voters have to pay $1m to Fraggle in order to vote, but if they pay $10m they can vote twice 9. Voters must vote for their preferences in order, instant runoff style... but they have to submit a confirmation ballot after the main ballots are counted 10. TKR and TKR allied votes count for 3/5ths of a vote 11. Everyone's votes are fairly counted, but anyone that votes against IQ gets rolled

We'd have to ensure that each individual vote is both different, and inconvenient/flawed in a different way. One is mandatory mail-in, one requires a government ID, there's a poll tax for one, you need a doctor to certify competence to vote for another, proof of highschool education, two are ranked voting and one has a manual run-off instead of actually using the rankings each voter submitted in the first place...

Is that a thing? Well, now I know for the future, thx :3

It took me ten hecking minutes to vote for everyone, I will not forgive you for this >:|

Well, there's the API data and there is (or at least was, I don't remember how to actually get to it) a tracker for some things like munitions usage in the past week, so the infrastructure does in fact exist on-site for the stats already. The issue with them is the same as the issue with the forum: They can be improved, and members of the community have stepped up to put in the effort and actually do so.

I'm not saying I don't trust your stats; for what its worth I do trust your stats. There's no reason to believe you have any malicious intent on any level, and thus you should have the benefit of the doubt. What I'm pointing out is how stupid the complaints and the mistrust of someone else's offsite service is, considering the existence of your own offsite service. Trust shouldn't be assumed, sure, but nor should it be denied when there's no reason to assume malice, and this absolutely should work both ways.

And who's to say that terms of service can't be falsified? It's just a text variable, like anything else on any other site, so why should we trust that part of the site more highly than any other part of it?

Well, does https://npowned.net/ track IPs? How do you know? Hmm? And how do you know that the attack data is being collected honestly?

That's why I said "like" the GDPR; the point I'm trying to make here is that websites are expected to maintain certain standards. Telling people when and how their email addresses and IP are stored and used is one thing, but telling people that they've visited a website when they've visited a website is a tad over the top when it comes to nanny-state bullcrap. I would have to cry if there's any laws that mandate that sites notify you if they're not harvesting your data.

Dude... the default state of the internet is 'not private', that's just a fact. The vast majority of websites have terms of service that are voluntarily agreed to by virtue of using said site, and they don't always need to nor do specify that, since there are laws like the GDPR and whatnot that define reasonable behaviors that websites are simply expected to adhere to. When's the last time you saw a ToS when you googled something? What, do you want a little clickthrough dialog that tells you that the link you clicked is in fact a link and goes to the spot that it says it goes to? People like you are why chainsaws have warning labels emblazoned "keep operating components away from hands and genitals".

Yes, people can indeed vote multiple times if they've used a VPN to ensure their security to make cheat accounts in P&W. People shouldn't do that, but here we are.

C'mon now, missiles ARE military ?

It is indeed exploitable; I've seen that kind of mechanic abused to heck all the time. Bring back fortify tho T^T

That's not a bad idea actually.

Zero upvotes. Everyone that reacted has nothing to say but ❤️

Well, look at that, a well-thought out post from Inst. Well done. Of course, the coalitions' efforts at discussions doesn't actually prove anything about how pressured they are, nor does TKRsphere's stubbornness prove anything but their stubbornness, but to your credit you did acknowledge that. Everything here is pretty spot-on as far as I can tell. When one has a lot of fat to lose, one loses a lot of fat; come next time BK or Panth are rolled I'm sure they'll dip to two-digit numbers themselves. (NPO just might maintain their numbers next rolling though.)

Yes, that's why you can use a VPN or proxy to change the IP that's visible to Dynamic's web page and thus deny the potential for him to track your IP, like I said.

The vote is transparent, or more accurately will be after the awards are announced on the show. At that point, the data will be publicly available, so if you actually want to manually validate every one of the 13 thousand ballots that were sent, and ask every single one of the almost a thousand players that have cast a vote if their vote was tabulated properly, then you can in fact do so. There's no greater transparency than that; every nation has a ballot, every ballot has a nation, every vote has a ballot, and they're all in a list. Count them if you want; I'd offer to hand-check them myself but you'd have to trust that I did that properly regardless, so you'd be better served by hand-checking the data yourself anyway. Simply put, you have to trust something either way. Why is it exactly that you'd trust this site more than Dynamic's? Should we start casting doubt on NPO's war stats page because it's maintained by NPO behind closed doors and relies on our trust that NPO isn't fudging the data? Micchan's memeing notwithstanding, this system is just as trustworthy as your war stats. If your off-site system can be trusted then why can't this one? As for the site, I've looked at it and according to Avast, it is clean. Dynamic did his virus scans and doesn't even have access to any personally identifiable information. His site doesn't ask for your username, password, or email. The link doesn't execute any suspicious code; it's no more than a form submission just like the way you posted right here. Even if we hosted it on these forums then the same questions of trust would still exist. There's no certainty in anything, other than validation, and the validation is a thing that can be done. You could use a VPN or proxy to vote, if you really want to. Your IP isn't what matters, it's your nation ID, which is already public. You can block Dynamic ingame, I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No, setting up unofficial alternative polls is not merely unnecessary but in fact detrimental to the drama since the awards are going to be announced on Discord, and the suspense is part of that. Unfortunately the forum polls are immediately seen, and thus there'd be no suspense, just salt over IQ having a lot of active people. With private voting in initially secret ballots, then there's no horse-race, just results. The fact of the matter is that @Kastor has been granted the authority to conduct the awards however he sees fit, so even if you did set up your own poll it would just be like exit polls: not official. Next year we need mail-in ballots and ranked voting tbh (retarded drama is entertaining though, I'll grant you that)

How about no? We've already done the thing; the ballots have been sent to each existing nation with a private key system. Everyone votes once, unless they've got multi accounts. Everyone's vote is logged to their nation ID and can be validated; if there's a dispute then people should feel free to manually check the 13 thousand ballots and ask every one of the hundreds of players that voted if their vote was counted correctly. If you're unsatisfied with @Dynamic's service, then double your money back!

Two months though? Yes, the holiday season is indeed busy depending on job and family, but it's a rather broad interpretation to consider it to begin in October. Either way, the holiday season has at this point been over for about a week by any rational metric. People should be heading off VM in about one week, if their VM was in fact due to that.

We'll have to at least end this thread before starting a new one, though.

Well, sure, there's nothing against the rules about sitting on 100% tax, 0 infra, 0 military, 0 resources/cash, and hecking off. I'm not sure I'd qualify that as 'tactics' per se, but it's at least... legal?