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TheNG10/2/2019, 9:56:57 AM Is the plan to get them out ASAP and focus on tS, or keep them down too? Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:57:42 AM Destroy them Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:57:53 AM It’s a bipolar world now Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:57:59 AM We need them dead TheNG10/2/2019, 9:58:51 AM Alright TheNG10/2/2019, 9:59:29 AM There are only two types of alliances in this world - IQ and IQ stats muahahaha Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:59:43 AM Se need to make as many of their members quit as possible Aragorn10/2/2019, 9:59:55 AM T$ has surrounded themselves with bad alliances Aragorn10/2/2019, 10:00:23 AM So we need to break their backs Aragorn10/2/2019, 10:00:43 AM Since next war we are fighting all these alliances from the beginning underlordgc10/2/2019, 10:02:20 AM You want these people to quit the game? BK man bad Aragorn10/2/2019, 10:05:14 AM Pretty sure that’s been established

I planned to run them this year, I have a new idea that I think will make both sides happy. But if anyone wants to take over rather than work with me on it, feel free.

ayo man, do whatever u must. Imma leak all your shit.

whoops

So to encourage this war to be over, I'll be dropping daily leaks from both sides until the war ends. First up, Coalition A or B, whatever u are. George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:04:57 PM we've spent a lot of time knocking down all their whales George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:05:30 PM so now we spend time knocking down their middle tier to ash George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:05:59 PM what we need is a total war strategy George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:06:42 PM what does that look like, what is the expected outcome George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:07:31 PM this isn't CN, you can't keep attacking people until they all retreat into PM or surrender individually George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:15:23 PM and as I said elsewhere, we need to decide how much time/blood/treasure we're willing to invest in the project George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:16:00 PM ultimately at this point they are probably thinking that if they survive without surrendering they win Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:16:22 PM I mean it’s an all in war George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:16:31 PM I don't think that giving them all the terms is going to help or change that George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:16:56 PM like I said, total war Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:17:16 PM They will come at us coordinated next time George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:17:33 PM so do we continue until we see some disbandments? George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:18:57 PM IMHO, if they won't negotiate, and you don't want to hand them a simple surrender and we're done, then we remain at war, and if we remain at war, there needs to be a goal Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:19:11 PM I mean t$ is displacing Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:19:15 PM Dissolving Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:19:23 PM That’s why they’re so desperate TheNG11/20/2019, 5:20:06 PM Like falling apart dissolving or actually disbanding? George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:20:20 PM either achieves the same goal George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:21:10 PM I want to look up t$ and get nothing, or I get a couple of diehards who refused to leave the AA Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:21:22 PM Falling apart George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:21:23 PM but effectively they are dead Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:21:26 PM They won’t disband Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:21:38 PM They’ve lost about 4-5 members a week Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:21:46 PM It’s why partisan is so desperate TheNG11/20/2019, 5:22:18 PM Huh, I didn't know they were losing that many. Not good for them Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:22:34 PM Thats t$ proper Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:23:06 PM And they are supplementing members from E$ QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:23:39 PM CoA still seems to have some pride left. QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:23:59 PM Idk what the morale status is on OWR or Carth QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:24:09 PM If we're constructing war goals, might as well lay out the whole board. George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:24:30 PM agreed Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:25:32 PM Carthagos members a re fading George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:25:51 PM because if any of the other side is teetering on the point of disbanding, we could focus them and give them one last good push over the cliff Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:26:00 PM I mean that’s the goal Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:26:06 PM But everyone has to be on board Leo the Great11/20/2019, 5:26:13 PM We will never have this advantage again George Clooney11/20/2019, 5:26:52 PM I say we press on QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:27:50 PM We have to, at this point QueenPhoenixLTS11/20/2019, 5:27:52 PM There's no alternative.

Welp, if CoB wants to push reps, they can. However, its a really dumb idea. My advice: Don't be prisoners of the moment and sore winners.

I’m confused on who wants reps. either it’s BK, who has no right because of the valid CB of you planning to fight them(it’s over, just admit it and take the FA hit for lying about it) or it’s NPO, who attacked other alliances first....which means they would’ve attacked and then demanded reps. but also have no rights to reps. Interesting, to say the least.

The discord is so dumb, actually. You can't talk about anything, or the mods will warn you, and once I literally got my thing deleted and a warning for posting a link to an alliance affairs post, in the place where I posted it. I was also told I couldn't talk about it to the mods, and if I did I'd be warned for it.

Ah, read that wrong. Alright.

So, lets take a break from bickering about the war: https://politicsandwar.com/alliance/id=6126 This is a new neutral alliance, which is cool, however they probably only haven't gotten hit because of the war. Do you think they'll get hit, simply for being neutral?

Its probably closer to 3%.

I’m mot sure why you guys downgraded just to go straight back to them.

Someone tell me.

Bad idea.

Please change it.

Well.....TKR side is being "reasonable" I've said that they should admit defeat and that should come to you for peace talks. I think your bogus "surrender first" thing is bogus. I'm sorry I'm not blindly following your way of thought on it, it doesn't really make sense because everyone knows how you'll lose it. What you'll do is this: 1. Force them to surrender first, then impose VERY unfavorable terms. 2. If those terms aren't accepted, you'll say that TKR side admitted defeat, and that they should accept your terms because they realized they lost. I know you'll say you won't, but I know a lot of the guys on your side, this is how you think, and I know people on the other side will ALSO do this. That's why I'm against it. Because its not going to make the war any shorter, and will drag out the war. The best way to do this is to list your terms out, get a moderator, I recommend me or Prefontaine. Or someone else if you don't want either of us, and force everyone to sit down and talk. Come to a good deal that benefits both sides, and see where everything goes from there. Staying on this path will just drag out the war, but as I've said, thats what NPO wants. A longer war only hurts BK, which I've also said more times. I'm not sure I agree with that. NPO won't throw the new alliances in because they want them to grow, I'm not sure why GOONS is even in but they won't allow new alliances to join. They need them to compete with BK soon. Even though BK sphere kinda self-destructed.

I don't think thats going too well for you. I think you'll list your terms before they admit defeat. That doesn't change my point. My point is they are hoping the people who are coming over will be more tolerant to them then the people currently here. That's NPO's FA goal post-war, even though they'll never admit it. Even if BK comes back, tC has said publicly that they're not interested in rejoining with NPO, and I doubt if they force terms on TKR side, they'll come around. The end goal and my point stays the same, nice try to divert from my point tho.

I suppose that's an argument that can be made. I'm indifferent, I've said you guys should white peace, I've said that they should surrender. The main point is, I don't think you're going to get ALL of what you want, and you seem unwilling to make any concessions, so a question could be asked what exactly do you get out of continuing the war? I suppose the bragging rights, but thats kinda irrelevant if the war goes on for some more months. You're barely growing, so it isn't like you're exactly winning here all that much there either. idk, feels like a dud to not just list your terms and negotiate, I'm not sure what exactly you get over not listing them.

The real issue is the NPO Side keeps trying to force its views and logic on the other side(TKR side). Its obvious that TKR side isn't budging on how it views certain things, and NPO side thinks if it drags out the war it'll get them to change its view. The war has gone on for months, and TKR side hasn't changed at all, and all thats happened is NPO side is losing allies and people fighting for them. Regardless of the end result, I can't say that this is a good strategy. I assume NPO side thinks as long as it imports allies, it'll be fine, but I've gotta say losing PnW base support for CN support doesn't look like a good strategy in the long run.

So I read/skimmed this, and this whole thing is silly. If you guys need an impartial moderator, let me know.

@Alex please change.

They suck, and as a primary mobile player, I’m wondering who asked for the changes? if you wanted to change something, change the thing that would cause me to get the capcath every time I go to trade.

People trying to tie IQ to AK is dumb, and you should stop. The exploit was barely used and was caught within days. The people were banned and everything is over. Let it go.

As a 3rd party, I don’t think NPO not defending tS is wrong here. I think Roq has a firm leg to stand on. I think hitting their allies is wrong though. They should’ve just stayed out. Even if it meant BK getting rolled.

Roq this was a terrible shitpost bruh.