Buorhann

So far, we need to convert 9 people.

Oh god.

They are false gods.

People need to stop swapping off and on with those Mensa/Rose votes. Keeps bumping this thread. EDIT: Oblige, you need to post this on Rose forums and get them to vote Mensa. We can have a war of forum votes.

Yosodog, I'm sorry for your loss bro.

What language?

>launches missile >doesn't hit >8 ap down the drain >posts surrender C'mon now.

Loss on t$ side is just folks decomming military to rebuild back some production.

I am Hippo Snake

Mensa has been at war with multiple Top 5 Alliances in 3 major wars so far since Feb. We've went to war against 3 Alliances deemed as a Protectorate ( 3 in this past war, but if you want to count raiding - then add 2 more ). We also went to war with 2 Alliances smaller in rank than Mensa ( SI and Vanguard ). We've individually raided multiple alliances throughout our stay here. The only war we missed out on was the GPA gangbang since we've arrived. Oh, and the Charming Friends gangbang, which the 3 Protectorates we hit in this recent war shows that they're willing to dogpile on a single alliance. As a community, we love to fight - with each other or against others, doesn't matter. Since our time, we've witnessed Protectorates jumping in on the side of the alliances that was protecting them ( This is before we decided to hit Protectorates, FYI ). The whole "Protectorate" tie shouldn't even exist in this game because it's bullshit. If I recall in a earlier discussion about alliance ties and how crazy the Alliance Web was getting, it should've just been a MDP that connected everything because very few really follows the Treaty Web nor the definition of the agreements between alliances. What I'm getting from you two ( Pubbie and Keegoz ) is that you're both trying to sensationalize carebearing other players. Most of which have been around longer than Mensa has, yet through their own decisions have remained either smaller or weaker and being intentionally vulnerable. We'll fight whoever, regardless if you're strong or weak. We'll use various tactics needed to accomplish our goals. The only thing that really matters to us is honoring our ties to our allies ( IB4 someone pulls a Inst and brings up the whole "surrendering" in the Great VE War ). EDIT: Forgot about the Charming Friends gangbang war.

You're right, we didn't destroy Rose ( tS did ), but we could be nitpicky on the subject use of terms.

Aw man, wtf. I had a good conversation with him before and figured he simply went into 2clicking inactive mode.

There's a reason why I simply said "Ok" to Pubbie.

Ok.

I'm not faulting Rose on that. It's a valid concern, but then UPN could just say we were the aggressors and therefore not have supported Mensa if Rose had declared on us. However, if you're going to say it's poor showing attacking one's protectorates, but turn around and not show any sort of protection ( Other than warding off raiders during off season ) - no one is better than the other in that situation. Which is why I stated earlier that if you can't protect an alliance in all what is called for with Protectorates, don't do it. At least officially, that is. No one is stopping you from keeping an eye on smaller alliances and beating up on raiders for "justice". It's a tricky situation to put yourself in with taking in Protectorates, that's why I'm glad Mensa doesn't take any in.

Oh, then I guess I summed it up for you. /brofist

Thought what?

I'll be honest, I didn't read beyond the first sentence that Pubbie posted. If you can't protect an alliance, don't take in protectorates and give them some sort of false hope.

@Clarke Do you accept our God Emperor Dio as your Lord and Savior?

Well, Saru is right, Pfeiffer does talk a big game some times, but it doesn't excuse him for not forewarning the protectorates. Granted it's really not up to UPN to warn the Protectorates either. All UPN did was agree to protect them, not hand feed them. So while yes, UPN is terrible at protecting alliances during a big war, but they did assist them by keeping raiders at bay.

He's actually wrong, but I won't bother explaining because if that's their line of thinking - then it is no surprise they're losing this bad, and I sure as hell don't want to help them learn the error of their ways ( Unless they accept Dio as their official alliance religion ).

You're right. Maybe stetonic should be quiet then? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amusingly enough, several DEIC members know to let their wars to expire. Well, other than Clarke and stetonic. Looking at both of your battle reports is funny. Do you guys even pay attention to wars? This is why people leave alliances with poor leadership qualities.

Sure, but nothing to the extent of yours. Now I see why people are leaving the alliances. There's no order, no real plan, very little strategy beyond the initial attack.

Look at the embargo list.

You still beiged him, as well as 9 others. Only 1 of your wars expired. I'm sure they appreciated the beige mode.