Diocletian

Nah, sheepy just wants the $$$. Can't (and I don't personally) blame him, hell for a kid as young as him to almost be at the point of making a living off this game, why would he try to push the paying people away? That's Bankrupt Business 101.

Really though, to be fair Orbis is pretty much entirely filled with trolls. The flaming/trolling/spamming/general asshattery that comes with it is to be expected. C'mon, you've been here long enough to realize that too, right?

micro wars YAY!

Usually multis and those that seek to exploit the trade system find their way to alliances like this one. I guess it makes it much easier to hide any possibly illicit activities that might transpire.

whiskey tango foxtrot is this pile 'o poo? ..... Oh nvm, answered myself.

Kastor's trollin everybody and no one either notices or cares. It's a regular pissing in a pot contest! One that Mensa's winning big time by technical overrun at that!

Yeah, because there's no better a shining example of freedumb than forcing people to do something that they simply choose to not do. These troll posts lately though, no one can seriously be such a hardcore advocate of authoritarian social policies. I guess the most dedicated of socialists masquerade as "liberals" in this nation so maybe it's believable.

Yep, and in a "perfect society" criminals would obey every law ever issued by a group of lying, thieving and extorting body of politicians known as "government." You call my post ignorant and that I'm evidently an idiot because I simply can't jive with that utopian talk of unicorns and coexisting with people bent on controlling literally every aspect of everything? Talk about delusion, little man. You can go on living your life believing that an authoritarian body of crooks will magically correct all ills we've experienced as a species for thousands of years, that's fine. Likewise, you can continue believing that America will somehow become the new age Atlantis or whatever if police and government agents are the only groups allowed to possess "heavy firepower." I'm not trying to spoil your delusions of higher grandeur or anything, but my God dude at least call a spade a spade. We've all learned in history class what those "utopias" always morph into to (I.e, fascism, communism, military junta, etc) You're free to live your life the way you choose and believe what you will, but some real-world experience just may help you yet. This country isn't perfect, not by a long shot obviously. Banning gun rights has literally only one end game: embolden criminals and government. Tell ya what man, when whoever (if in our lifetime, anyway) invents a time machine do yourself a favor and head back to the USSR. Lenin and Stalin were mega advocates of gun control and an insanely bloated military and police force. Make sure to send word ahead of paradise please? Hell, I just may move there too!

In other words you're just a wee bit spineless and lack the raw manliness to defend your self and your own? When government continually strips rights away from "average Joe" citizens who's only crime is being a regular citizen, then that mistrust is founded on quite solid ground. The situation in America is overwhelmingly becoming a crappier one: the economy continues to tank and draconian laws, one after another, continue to be implemented by seemingly monarchical decree. Once upon a time men had balls, they'd be willing to do absolutely anything to defend their families and themselves. Relying on government for anything shows the true character of a weak individual. You speak as if there's anarchy all over the world where gun rights are valued and upheld. Over 80 million gun owners today, yesterday, the day before, years before that killed absolutely no one. Think of home defense firearms as a deterrent and an insurance policy. It's far better an option in my opinion to live on your feet a free man than to die on your knees never knowing what could have been. Wouldn't you agree there'd more than likely be an auspicious event had you had the means to thwart any attempt on your loved ones lives as well as your own?

VE's a buncha pagans. their name is like Latin and they're just un Christian heathens! Roll them til they accept an imaginary guy in the sky into their hearts and stop worshipping false idols! Lead by example, oh great one hawkeye! In the name of Cthulhu we preach the black arts, Amen.

Well,this will certainly help encourage raiders to step up their A-game. I like it, seems for once out of the last 3 updates at least this one is pretty cool. Please don't allow entire stockpile looting Sheepy, that would clearly turn p&w into runescape or your average android game cash in. Not to mention the mass flock of people that'd rage quit from having entire stockpiles wiped out and thus their ability to properly conduct warfare.

The only real complaint I personally have is the totality and inevitably the "dev group" will get their way, regardless of what the rest of Orbis says. At the end of the day Sheepy makes the call, and whichever way he chooses not everybody will be satisfied. That's tough, if someone doesn't like it that much they'll probably just !@#$ about it a bit and/or leave the game. It happens. You simply can't please everyone.

All these dumbass changes people keep suggesting. That's what I'm talking about. I made a "split dick" and flag analogy for the comparative level of stupidity of this change in the real world. Aka rl liberals !@#$ing about issues that wouldn't be an issue if not for intense amounts of butt hurt coming from the collectivist mindstate. Quite a lot of stupid suggestion threads as of late. Granted, I could of worded it better, but the point remains.

Hell why not just eliminate spies and/or spying altogether? That way all the "liberals" will have their way on Orbis by increasingly screwing the game up for the rest of us! It'd be as realistic and fantastic as rl flag and 'Caitlyn' Jenner status changes! Seriously though, please just leave the spy system alone.

I'm very excited to see where this'll go! Here's to the future ladies and gentlemen! o/ tS o/ Rose o/ VE

You've got a long way to go, kiddo! Do you have any proof to substantiate your claim though? If so, sorry about this alleged cyber bullying, it can be a !@#$. The mod squad ain't exactly hopping on game reports, they'd rather just dish out hourly forum bans for simple OOC stupidity. At the end of the day though, you can't jump into a broswer game and expect not to get trolled. Hell that's all these games are made up of for the most part! You've been around long enough to know this, Oskar. Don't let any of the negativity get to ya, and likewise dial down your trolling of people and (maybe) there'd be an ever-so-slight chance they'll cut back their own of you. Good luck to you!

You're attention-starved something vicious, aren't ya JI? Now we're resorting to fallacies and OOC insults to 'prove a point?' C'mon man, I really hope you're not trying to refer the war we was recently involved in (that mind you, we got dog piled on at the outset). Anyway, whether you was or not, the pen is mightier than the sword pal. Except when you're talking about raiding allied individuals, then you just gotta piss enough people (and/or the "right" people) off and you can kiss your nation goodbye. That is what's known as the Politics side of P&W

What our protectorates do is their business, and they probably should accept responsibility for their own action(s), however, I'm not an FA nerd for VE, talk to moonpie on the matter. All opinions presented by me in this thread are strictly my own, and not represenative of the Viridian Entente's own views. All I'm saying is raiding affiliated folks is never a good idea, and you'll likely end up having a bad time.

lol what makes you think anyone in VE "hates you?" We just don't want you thinking that you're gonna attack our protectorates, allies, etc and slip away scot free. Most alliances here on Orbis will display the same attitude. That being said, good luck in your future endeavors JI!

Aw c'mon, JI cares! I bet all the other voices in his head does too! But seriously, Mensa tend to be alright people. Prepare thyself for epic trolols dude.

Oh hell, never knew there was such an alliance in the first place. Anyway, come over to VE for a fun, lively and epic new home!

Africa in Orbis. 'Murica in rl, obviously.

A "neutral overlord?" That's an interesting theory you have there Vincent. Go easy on the tinfoil speculation, VE isn't plotting to rule the world. Of course, unless you consider dominating the market, alongside tS, overlord status. But no really, we're planning to turn all of Guardian and SK into our personal coal, iron, oil and lead farms. Check our alliance's seal, the masonic proof of this is there. You'll really, really have to strain your eyes to find it though! p.s. - Actually we just want Guardian & SK to own up to their role in plotting against us and our allies, nothing more, nothing less. Reps and other conditions are not that bad at all. No conspiracy involved, I promise.

o/ VE o/ allied nations & alliances On another note, it's epic to see at least Mensa being sensible people to their situation. Furthermore, no one expects to see you guys surrender, nor do we have any inclination to. What we would like to see (in my opinion, I don't speak for VE as a whole) is leadership of both SK and Guardian come to their senses for their "lesser nation's sake. In accepting these relatively nominal reps and to peace in general you'll set by example and show Orbis you can, for the first time in the game's history, be reasoned with and accept responsibility in full for conspiring to destroy VE and backstab Rose. The compromise is a reasonable one, and the vast majority of Orbis seems to agree with this notion. Why SK and Guardian gov is so vehemently against it is astounding.

Mensa fought bravely despite the odds, and I have nothing but respect for the folks as such! o/ VE o/ Allied alliances o/ Mensa