Anti-Trump Mega Thread!

[Hereno]

Go on. 

 

fox news is literally the propaganda wing of the republican establishment

 

if they are ostensibly taking the side of trump over that of the republican establishment, what does that tell you?

 

it's a sham. he's a liar. they're liars. fox news is owned by an australian and a saudi. i don't understand why thinking people who claim to be pro-america watch it. it's like the professional wrestling of the news world.

[Rozalia]

fox news is literally the propaganda wing of the republican establishment

 

if they are ostensibly taking the side of trump over that of the republican establishment, what does that tell you?

 

it's a sham. he's a liar. they're liars. fox news is owned by an australian and a saudi. i don't understand why thinking people who claim to be pro-america watch it. it's like the professional wrestling of the news world.

 

Of I see, I misunderstood you. There are some in Fox News who are pro Trump, but also those against him so it ain't quite like they're all behind him. When Trump beats Cruz though I'd expect them all to fall "In line" though.

Edited April 11, 2016 by Rozalia

[Rozalia]

[Hiroshima]

This thread makes me proud to be a member of Roz Wei. Need more Trump WWE .gifs though.

[Rozalia]

This thread makes me proud to be a member of Roz Wei. Need more Trump WWE .gifs though.

 

Posted a number of them somewhere... my gifs are everywhere so I can't quite remember where they were all left. 

[Hiroshima]

Bernie is a mess.

[Ayayay]

-snip-

He actually said "and some, I assume, are good people" as an afterthought. Get gud m80 and stop sucking trump dick.

[Mutsuo Toi]

 

Bernies gonna !@#$ his shit up just like Stalin

[Andrezj Kolarov]

You mind if you keep us commies out of your capitalist infighting? We all know every side in [mainstream] American politics is fighting for variations on the same thing.

[Hereno]

You mind if you keep us commies out of your capitalist infighting? We all know every side in [mainstream] American politics is fighting for variations on the same thing.

 

but it's true that a lot of the post-soviet communists and people in general see homosexuality and the rest as "bourgeois decadence" stemming from the west

 

fidel castro has since apologized to the lgbt community for the abuses they suffered at the hands of the cuban revolutionaries

Edited April 12, 2016 by Hereno

[Rozalia]

 

He actually said "and some, I assume, are good people" as an afterthought. Get gud m80 and stop sucking trump dick.

 

Except he was talking about illegals, not the Mexican people as a whole, crossing the border who do in fact rape a lot of women also crossing the border, in fact it's estimated to be as high as 80% of women. Oh and yes, you assume in a group with a high concentration of rapists some are going to be good people, not all of them are going to be rapists obviously. Trump is the only candidate who actually wants to do something about those rapes, what a bad man, it's anti women in fact. Taking away a woman's right to be raped? Sexist, heck they're primarily one group too so add racist on top of that. 

 

This is why the anti-Trump thread is so low energy. All these attacks they can barely muster up are "baby's first attacks", weak months old attacks so easily beaten that if so many people didn't believe it, it wouldn't even be worth addressing. It's that media scum at work. Nasty guys. Dishonest people. Sad!

 

If Trump is curt it's because he has to work fast, he moves nimbly, he stumps quickly, because we gotta go fast folks. 

 

 

Edited April 12, 2016 by Rozalia

[Rozalia]

[Ayayay]

Except he was talking about illegals, not the Mexican people as a whole, crossing the border who do in fact rape a lot of women also crossing the border, in fact it's estimated to be as high as 80% of women. 

 

[Rozalia]

 

Thanks, a citation needed meme in response to something often ignored by pushers of open borders is excellent, really drives the point home and all that.

 

http://fusion.net/story/17321/is-rape-the-price-to-pay-for-migrant-women-chasing-the-american-dream/

 

Or if you hate the source for whatever reason, Amnesty put it at 60%: https://fusiondotnet.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/amr410142010eng.pdf

 

80%, 60%, it really makes no difference even if you want to low ball it. Rape levels of that magnitude is nasty business. They get raped crossing Mexico, then when they're going to cross into America. The rapists can come in all forms, many of them are going to be fellow migrants naturally. 

 

They are so emboldened by the easy perception of crossing that they will take rape, because they know they're going to get raped. A big beautiful wall tells them "No, don't come, and don't get raped". It is similar to how Merkel telling people to come has resulted in a great many deaths, while if she had said "no, don't come, and don't get killed" a lot less death and upheaval would have happened. 

 

So you see the wall among stopping illegal immigration also lowers rape numbers. It only does everything! You against lowering rape numbers?

[Ayayay]

Or if you hate the source for whatever reason, Amnesty put it at 60%: https://fusiondotnet.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/amr410142010eng.pdf

Did a double take and yep, you're an idiot. 

 

For people who don't want to read, Mexico is not part of America (yet ) and Mexican cartels and gangs are not illegal immigrants. 

[Rozalia]

Did a double take and yep, you're an idiot. 

 

For people who don't want to read, Mexico is not part of America (yet ) and Mexican cartels and gangs are not illegal immigrants. 

 

Confirmed rapist supporter. You a rapist too? Nasty guy.

 

They're going across Mexico to get to the border and cross into Mexico. In some cases they offer their body willing to help get across the border. As such, to say the majority of women doing the journey to cross the border have been raped is not an incorrect statement, they have been. Put a big fat wall down and most of them ain't even going to try, thus they don't get raped. Also you have listed two groups of criminals, but do not list all of them because one of them is of course, other migrants, illegal migrants. Dishonest. Sad! Remember Metro... somebodies doing the raping. 

Edited April 13, 2016 by Rozalia

[Ayayay]

 

According to Marcos’ testimony, the migrants were then driven to a remote ranch in a municipal police vehicle and forced to provide their relatives’ phone numbers. He said that when one of the migrants refused, he was raped as punishment.

 

Ninety-one of the migrants interviewed stated that public officials were directly responsible for their kidnapping and a further 99 victims observed police colluding with kidnappers during their captivity. Of the 157 women confirmed kidnapped, at least two were murdered and others raped.

 

Many criminal gangs appear to use sexual violence as part of the “price†demanded of migrants.

 

 A study in 2006 interviewed 90 migrant women held in Iztapalapa Migrants’ Detention Centre, of whom just over half were from Central America. Twenty-three women reported experiencing some kind of violence, including sexual violence. Of these, 13 stated the person responsible was a state official.

 

She was then told that she would be beaten and raped by each member of the gang until she provided phone numbers of relatives who would pay a ransom for their release.

 

Late that night, as the migrants walked along the railway tracks, several groups of migrants were attacked by criminal gangs who killed at least one migrant and raped one of the women

You should read your own source, I can't find a single part that mentions migrant's raping each other, everything is gangs and state officials in the report. That's like saying "The migrants are getting raped by North Americans, so that means some of the rapists must be Canadians." Also, if you offer your body willingly it isn't rape, sexual assault maybe but not rape.

 

So, like I said, Trump is wrong. Most of the illegals are not rapists. What's your next argument for me to destroy?

 

Edit:

Original argument: Most illegals are rapists

First change: 80% of female migrants are raped, many of the rapists are migrants

Second change: Migrants are "of course" raping each other

 

Where will Rosey move the goal post next? 

 

Edited April 13, 2016 by Metro

[Rozalia]

You should read your own source, I can't find a single part that mentions migrant's raping each other, everything is gangs and state officials in the report. That's like saying "The migrants are getting raped by North Americans, so that means some of the rapists must be Canadians." Also, if you offer your body willingly it isn't rape, sexual assault maybe but not rape.

 

So, like I said, Trump is wrong. Most of the illegals are not rapists. What's your next argument for me to destroy?

 

Edit:

Original argument: Most illegals are rapists

First change: 80% of female migrants are raped, many of the rapists are migrants

Second change: Migrants are "of course" raping each other

 

Where will Rosey move the goal post next? 

 

 

“Women and girl migrants, especially those without legal status traveling in remote areas or on trains, are at heightened risk of sexual violence at the hands of criminal gangs, people traffickers, other migrants or corrupt officials,†the 2010 Amnesty International report stated. “…Many criminal gangs appear to use sexual violence as part of the “price†demanded of migrants. According to some experts, the prevalence of rape is such that people smugglers may require women to have a contraceptive injection prior to the journey as a precaution…â€

 

Perpetrators can be coyotes, other migrants, bandits, or even government authorities.

 

That’s why the statistics for rape and sexual assault are so fuzzy. Almost all migrants crossing north don’t have permission to be in Mexico, so reporting a crime to the authorities means risking deportation. Other victims are ashamed to admit they’ve been brutalized.

 

Yes, not mentioned once indeed. Thought you were up to something when you responded just to the second, common tactic.

 

Somebodies doing the raping, some of it is bandits, gangs, corrupt officials and such, but naturally it also other migrants. How many really? We can't be sure for several reasons but rapists exist among the number and we know they're all definitely criminals, they are committing a crime after all. Comparable to the "Rapugees" who some are terrorist fanatics, some rapists, some an other type of criminal, and some are you have to assume good people. Why take the risk? Bar them all and let them come, but legally.

 

Also your stance there on rape to defend rapists is laughable, don't try to take some high ground stance on migrants with me if you think that stuff. These women are victims, regardless if they "willingly" have sex with criminals. 

Edited April 13, 2016 by Rozalia

[Ayayay]

Like I said Rosey, there isn't any evidence that most of the illegals are rapists. That's the original argument, just in case you forgot with your moving goalposts. It's also bad that these women feel forced to give up their bodies but unless they don't consent it's not rape. Every instance of rape mentioned in that report was perpetrated by non-migrants. Sexual violence is not rape itself but covers everything from rape to sexism.

 

I'd like to also point out that you are using a common SJW tactic. SJW's lump sexual violence and harassment together and call it all rape, I thought you were an anti-SJW, not one of them.

Edited April 13, 2016 by Metro

[Ayayay]

The stupidity in this thread is horrendous.

From both sides.

Well, you are the expert when it comes to stupidity.

[Rozalia]

Like I said Rosey, there isn't any evidence that most of the illegals are rapists. That's the original argument, just in case you forgot with your moving goalposts. It's also bad that these women feel forced to give up their bodies but unless they don't consent it's not rape. Every instance of rape mentioned in that report was perpetrated by non-migrants. Sexual violence is not rape itself but covers everything from rape to sexism.

 

I'd like to also point out that you are using a common SJW tactic. SJW's lump sexual violence and harassment together and call it all rape, I thought you were an anti-SJW, not one of them.

 

You just ignored everything I said to once again use just your preferred source, a source I put down in good faith but I suppose playing these tricks is inevitable for most people. They're separate reports, try again. These things deal in estimations, there is no concrete answer, most women aren't going to report it naturally. What we know however is someone is doing the raping, and taking the common sense stance will prevent such rapes. 

 

This ain't kids stuff. They're bad dudes, real killers. A women giving up her body for fear that if she doesn't she will be raped anyway by as a I said, real nasty guys is not correct. A women shouldn't have to offer her body up to some gangbanger or whatever else. However as they feel they have to then thats fine, the reason they do it can be taken away instead. Put down a wall, a big beautiful wall, a fantastic wall, a great wall, the best wall, and show zero tolerance for their rule breaking no more playing around. Is more cheap labour really worth so many women being raped?

Trying to shame me with SJW nonsense won't work, no one here if they've read my posts would ever call me that. Just because I said that among it being correct to build the wall it will also help stop the rapes and misery inflicted on women doesn't make me a SJW, it means I can function at a normal enough level. 

[Ayayay]

These things deal in estimations, there is no concrete answer, most women aren't going to report it naturally.

Translation: 

"I'm totally okay with making up bullshit so long as it supports my agenda. Evidence and facts are words created by those Godless liberals."

 

 

Trying to shame me with SJW nonsense won't work

Because you're just as delusional as them. Extremism meets.

[Andrezj Kolarov]

The fact that you Americans are actually entertaining the possibility of elected a billionaire as head of state shows that your country is already screwed, you are an oligarchy/plutocracy not a "democracy".

[Rozalia]

Translation: 

"I'm totally okay with making up bullshit so long as it supports my agenda. Evidence and facts are words created by those Godless liberals."

 

 

Because you're just as delusional as them. Extremism meets.

 

Thats not how it works and you know it. I'm not making up anything, the claim doesn't come from me. Most such things deal in estimations due to the nature of them (the total amount of people being unknown, the amount of cases unreported being unknown, so on) but it's telling that even the lowballers will put it at 60%. Someone is doing the raping, going, "well it's an estimation so it's made up" doesn't magically mean no one is getting raped. This is not a case of one end saying 5% and another saying 80%. 60& or 80%, both are horrible. I could easily concede that the number is 60% if I so wanted to, it's simply irrelevant if it's 60 or 80. 

 

Incorrect. I use logic hence why I don't go after all the little irrelevant things like they do. Comparing me to them when all I've said is migrants both male and female shouldn't make such a miserable journey is stretching it, stretching it good. I say it first because it's wrong they do it to begin with, but second because all it brings upon them is misery ultimately. The first reason is the important one, the second is to show that those who deny them in fact care far more for such people then those who say yes. The "Rapeugees" once again you get all those SJWs crying over some dead kid, a dead kid some in the media don't even have shame in admitting is a golden idol to trick people into supporting the madness. Yet they are responsible for the death, if my, and all those who are for denying them were listened to that kid would not have died. All those women who were raped, attacked, whatever by them in Europe? Once again, wouldn't have happened if no had been firmly said. 

So to bring it back, I'm a supporter of low immigration, firm believer in that. However that isn't to say I care nothing for such people. I care a darn lot more than those who for their ideology, be it Conservative, Liberal, Socialist, or Communist (not all branches support it to be clear, but mainstream versions do) condemn people to being killed, raped, attacked, and whatever else. 

 

Still, that won't change your mind. Keep supporting rapists, bandits, and other such criminals. Just keep your family nice and away from them, what most in the Ivory Towers do after all. 

 

The fact that you Americans are actually entertaining the possibility of elected a billionaire as head of state shows that your country is already screwed, you are an oligarchy/plutocracy not a "democracy".

 

I don't see why people should be discriminated against like that for how much money they have. I've attacked my fair share of rich people, however the mistake people make is they attack simply because the person is rich. Not only is that wrong, but it's all too easy to defeat with the retort that it's merely envy or some garbage at work. The reason I attack them is not for being rich, but for being corrupt and in a lot of cases people who are purposely damaging their country for some extra coins (as in they're not stupid people, they know exactly what they're doing). Look at all the globalist trade deals that gut out countries in the west. You think those politicians don't know it'll do that? They know, but for some extra coins they'll lie and get their country damaged, it matters not to them. 

 

If anyone stands up to that, be it rich or poor then they're worth support. Not to mention with how things are stacked in a lot of places...  the poor revolting on their own is made more and more impossible and short of things really getting ugly... it just won't happen. Rich people are often visible, they've "made" something of themselves after all. Often they'll have all the right qualities as a speaker to get across populism. They have their own money too so strings are less likely and they can get the message out. 

[Rozalia]

https://twitter.com/Lrihendry/status/720224756339879936

 

Zuck the Cuck BTFO. As I always say, these rich Liberal boyos are always found in their Ivory Towers. They expect the poor to put up with what they peddle to push their mad ideology, but they certainly won't go and experience it themselves. They hide in their big walled off houses full of bodyguards. Nasty guys. Dishonest people. Sad!