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The Difference between Socialism and Communism


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I've got tired of people getting these terms wrong. First off, Socialism can go into many ways, but mainly it's a leftist idealogy. USSR, China, Vietnam and Laos, are all Socialist and examples of Socialist nations. Communism should be considered Anarchy the way, it has been given, "stateless society" "classless society" So furthermore, Socialism in General is not bloody Communism, it may associate with it, but it isn't

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I've got tired of people getting these terms wrong. First off, Socialism can go into many ways, but mainly it's a leftist idealogy. USSR, China, Vietnam and Laos, are all Socialist and examples of Socialist nations. Communism should be considered Anarchy the way, it has been given, "stateless society" "classless society" So furthermore, Socialism in General is not bloody Communism, it may associate with it, but it isn't

 

 

~I do not believe in these idealogys nor like them, I'm a hardcore Fascist, just wanted to get the true meaning of them set out.~

 

None of the examples you've given are even remotely Socialist. For example, the Soviet Union was a State Capitalist society. In the Marxist sense, Socialism is merely a transitional form of Communism, and is only meant to be temporary.

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And China is Communist, while Barrack Obama is Anarcho-Communist

 

 

Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk

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In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Many countries have dominant socialist political parties but very few are truly communist. In fact, most countries - including staunch capitalist bastions like the U.S. and U.K. - have government programs that borrow from socialist principles. "Socialism" is sometimes used interchangeably with "communism" but the two philosophies have some stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems.In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Many countries have dominant socialist political parties but very few are truly communist. In fact, most countries - including staunch capitalist bastions like the U.S. and U.K. - have government programs that borrow from socialist principles. "Socialism" is sometimes used interchangeably with "communism" but the two philosophies have some stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems.

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I can understand you not liking them but I don't see how you can can question the existence of ideologies.

Also, what are we debating here?

Remember, my friend. This is Francisco Franco talking

 

 

Peace will never be accomplished without war, but war cannot happen without peace.... or something like that idk

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Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[1][2] as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.[3][4] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[5] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[6] They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

 

Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal)[1][2] is a socioeconomic system structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and characterized by the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.

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Franco is correct. Socialism comes in many forms. Despite what specific socialists think it is, other socialists have their very own definition. Socialism is broad term that is used to describe a number of different economic ideas.

 

 

None of the examples you've given are even remotely Socialist. For example, the Soviet Union was a State Capitalist society. In the Marxist sense, Socialism is merely a transitional form of Communism, and is only meant to be temporary.

No... That's ONLY if you're going by the Marx idea. Marx did not invent socialism so he has no room to twist it into his own definition. The USSR was socialist, depite anything Marx said.

 

 

 

In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Many countries have dominant socialist political parties but very few are truly communist. In fact, most countries - including staunch capitalist bastions like the U.S. and U.K. - have government programs that borrow from socialist principles. "Socialism" is sometimes used interchangeably with "communism" but the two philosophies have some stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems.In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Many countries have dominant socialist political parties but very few are truly communist. In fact, most countries - including staunch capitalist bastions like the U.S. and U.K. - have government programs that borrow from socialist principles. "Socialism" is sometimes used interchangeably with "communism" but the two philosophies have some stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems.

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In the US, democracy is the same as socialism....amirite?????? :P

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theocracy ftw

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theocracy?

there isn't a deity in the system of communism or socialism.

 

 A pure form of communism won't exist today, and its absence value of money for means of production of productivity, it isn't bad ideology when inequality of money and utilize both rich and poor to work together. maybe you are referred to National socialism of Germany(Race conflict), and Socialist communism (class confliict), they have many things different but both have common goals together.

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theocracy?

there isn't a deity in the system of communism or socialism.

 

 A pure form of communism won't exist today, and its absence value of money for means of production of productivity, it isn't bad ideology when inequality of money and utilize both rich and poor to work together. maybe you are referred to National socialism of Germany(Race conflict), and Socialist communism (class confliict), they have many things different but both have common goals together.

Communism only works on paper, my dear. If it worked in the real world, life might just MIGHT be better.

 

(I made a second post, due to it not letting me put the quote in my previous comment/post)

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None of the examples you've given are even remotely Socialist. For example, the Soviet Union was a State Capitalist society. In the Marxist sense, Socialism is merely a transitional form of Communism, and is only meant to be temporary.

Give him some credit, it's pretty good for someone who doesn't agree with those views to have a decent understanding of them. :P Also state capitalism I would say is within the bounds of socialism if it's a corrupt state. Although China allows proper capitalism (to an extent) now, there's still quite a bit of state capitalism mixed in with their socialism. Although many call them communists, as the OP stated, true communism requires anarchy and statelessness, which is where the ideology falls flat on its face due to human nature. :P
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Give him some credit, it's pretty good for someone who doesn't agree with those views to have a decent understanding of them. :P Also state capitalism I would say is within the bounds of socialism if it's a corrupt state. Although China allows proper capitalism (to an extent) now, there's still quite a bit of state capitalism mixed in with their socialism. Although many call them communists, as the OP stated, true communism requires anarchy and statelessness, which is where the ideology falls flat on its face due to human nature. :P

Marxist Communism is basically Anarchy, the way it is explained.

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An idealistic utopian one, at that.

Idealisitic? Yes, something the world or the Human race can get? No, like many people said, the Human Mind doesn't accept it. But, due to me being a Fascist, I know for sure it can't happen, due to it being something called "outdated".

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Idealisitic? Yes, something the world or the Human race can get? No, like many people said, the Human Mind doesn't accept it. But, due to me being a Fascist, I know for sure it can't happen, due to it being something called "outdated".

 

You could not possibly know such a thing, and stating you do speaks volumes of your arrogance and ignorance. But I suppose one should expect such from a fascist  :rolleyes:

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No... That's ONLY if you're going by the Marx idea. Marx did not invent socialism so he has no room to twist it into his own definition. The USSR was socialist, depite anything Marx said.

 

 

 

 

Exactly, which is why I expressly said:

 

 In the Marxist sense, Socialism is...

 

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I like anarcho-statism

Sounds legit.

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So I take it you edited your earlier post?

No I did not. Why?

Or is this a misunderstanding of sarcasm?

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No I did not. Why?

Or is this a misunderstanding of sarcasm?

 

No, I just figured since you misunderstood when I expressly said in the marxist sense socialism is...

 

You might want to edit that, since the basis of your rebuttal is based on a falsehood. That's all.

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No, I just figured since you misunderstood when I expressly said in the marxist sense socialism is...

 

You might want to edit that, since the basis of your rebuttal is based on a falsehood. That's all.

What's been said is already said.

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