Downdeclare bug?

[Kemal Ergenekon]

So, I was declared on by Kosharna/Tuseto ( https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=7516) which has a score of 4,035, who had a score of 4,111 yesterday. But the thing is, I was well below 3,000 myself at the time.

 

Is there a way for you to check the score of both nations at declaration? (09/12 07:17 am game time). I feel like there is a bug here, though I might be mistaken.

[Kosonome]

Maybe he got attacked and lost some score, or he sold some military just for reducing his score to attack you.

[LordRahl2]

Then he would not have been able to build up that much...it was after day change.

[Alex]

I would expect that his score was within range when he declared, and then built additional military/infrastructure afterward.

 

But no, there's no log of both scores when the war was declared. I also have no reason to believe there's any sort of bug in how war declarations work.

[LordRahl2]

Sheep, could you do me a huge favor and do the math?  It is, unless I am waaayyyyy off, impossible for what you describe to happen unless he built a massive amount of infra.  Does that seem likely to you?

[Alex]

Assuming Kemal had a score of 2,500, that would require the attacker to have a score at least as low as 3,333. To go from 3,333 to 4,000 score, that could mean:

 

1,333,200 Soldiers

13,320 Tanks

1,332 Aircraft

333 Ships

134 Missiles

45 Nuclear Weapons

26,640 Infrastructure

14 New Cities

34 Projects

 

Or any combination of those, which is obviously more likely.

[Kemal Ergenekon]

But he was at a higher score the day before. So bug?

[BeachBunny]

Assuming Kemal had a score of 2,500, that would require the attacker to have a score at least as low as 3,333. To go from 3,333 to 4,000 score, that could mean:

 

1,333,200 Soldiers

13,320 Tanks

1,332 Aircraft

333 Ships

134 Missiles

45 Nuclear Weapons

26,640 Infrastructure

14 New Cities

34 Projects

 

Or any combination of those, which is obviously more likely.

 

None of that can be accomplished.

[LordRahl2]

yeah sheepy.  I checked muh maths.  It is impossible for him to have dropped, DoWed, and rebuilt.

[Kemal Ergenekon]

I talked with Kosharna. He is saying he decommed to 3800 before attacking. That would be possible if I had 2850 score, which is possible.

 

4,111  - 3,800 =  311

 

311 / 1.5 = 207.3 ships

 

207.3 / 19 = 11ish ships per city

 

So it is possible I guess.

[Kemal Ergenekon]

But he now told me it wasn't ships, xd.

[BeachBunny]

Then how did he do it! I must know!

[Dabawss]

Then he would not have been able to build up that much...it was after day change.

he lost some improvements then sacrificed some of his infra. there are many ways to downsize without huge reductions in military

[LordRahl2]

he lost some improvements then sacrificed some of his infra. there are many ways to downsize without huge reductions in military

 

improvements are not score producing.

 

If we eliminate ships it is mathematically impossibru with infra.

 

He could only kill and rebuild one project if that is what you mean by "improvement".

[Kemal Ergenekon]

This is resolved. He erased a part of his military, declared, and rebuilt.

 

You can see the related thread here: https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/16453-commissioning-and-decommissioning/

Edited September 18, 2016 by Kemal Ergenekon

[LordRahl2]

I still don't see it if you take the ships out of the math.