Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Now, as ya'll might know, I'm no saint; but as far as nihilists go on P&W, Socialist Workers Front takes the cake. They have no code, and respect no one. They have no problem exhibiting blatant hypocrisy, and their members are allowed to raid anyone, at anytime, anywhere, for whatever reason; regardless of their alliance affiliation. They claim to uphold ideals, yet have none. They accuse others of wrongdoing, while simultaneously committing the same act. They're hypocrites, pirates, and cultists. This is for anyone in SWF who may think their alliance is somehow "ethical": Oggy (Commissar of SWF): You raid someone, you ask them to join your alliance in exchange for peace. SWF hate people like that = SWF hate you. Me (applicant of UPN): You use "Quit EoS", and "Get a better protectorate" as your war declarations, and you accuse me of coercion? Oggy: Yeah so? I'm not denying it am I? (even though pretty much 99% of the player base don't give a crap about casus belli in general) Doesn't change the fact that we still hate you want to roll the $#^& out of you. In fact, if you were in my range right now I would have declare war with the reason being "quit the game, scrub"… we're gonna roll you purely because we want to, Gabby or not, simply because we hate guys like you. Case in point. Don't be a hypocrite. Stay dank. Edited January 18, 2016 by Miles Dyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Licorice Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I'm pretty sure the only guy being hypothetical is the one you were talking to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure the only guy being hypothetical is the one you were talking to. This is the guy they all supposedly answer to; and he claimed to speak for all of them as another one of their members raids me unlawfully; and the rest embargo me for the same b.s. reason. Yea… so … theres that. Edited January 18, 2016 by Miles Dyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) This is the guy they all supposedly answer to; and he claimed to speak for all of them Lol, as much as I'm amused at your attempt to throw me under the bus, the only reason why Vassili redirect you to me is because I was the one who came up with the idea of rolling you in the first place. If they all answer to me you would be beige by now. Though the fact that they all embargoed you pretty much prove that none of us like you. Edited January 18, 2016 by Oggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Lol, as much as I'm amused at your attempt to throw me under the bus, the only reason why Vassili redirect you to me is because I was the one who came up with the idea of rolling you in the first place. If they all answer to me you would be beige by now. Though the fact that they all embargoed you pretty much prove that none of us like you. Why? For what reason? Is it b/c of some kind of cult-like groupthink you all submit to? One member says he/she doesn't like me, and the rest follow along like some mindless drones? The fact is, you admitted to committing the same kind of coercion you accused me of. You have yet to provide a better reason for hating me. So, I'm just going to assume you're an a-hole. Edited January 18, 2016 by Miles Dyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 As repeated probably the thirty time in this forum, you pretty much forced other weaker alliances to merge with BK through wars. Nobody in SWF likes that (heck, we're socialist not just for the RP) , so is it really that surprising that we would all dislike you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) As repeated probably the thirty time in this forum, you pretty much forced other weaker alliances to merge with BK through wars. Nobody in SWF likes that (heck, we're socialist not just for the RP) , so is it really that surprising that we would all dislike you? How is that any different than coercing members of small alliances to abandon their group? You already said it had nothing to do with that anyways, so… yea… you're full of it. Edited January 18, 2016 by Miles Dyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Why we hunt you is because:1. we don't like you2. you're an easy target3. poaching from weak alliances is the epitome of imperialist here in SWF What was that? You're hunting me b/c I "coerced" someone to join BK? Yea… liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 As far as my recruitment methods are concerned, clearly they are effective. Like I stated in the other thread, I convinced a small alliance (4 members) to join BK earlier this month after raiding them! Ethics my a$$. War is War. They will either join or be beiged. Fucl< Stormwind. reading is hard huh, don't worry, I won't judge ... much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) reading is hard huh, don't worry, I won't judge ... much I don't care if you use war to "force" people out of their alliance or not. Thats not the issue. The issue is you playing holier-than-thou, acting like you're doing a service to "honorable players" by punishing those you "don't like"; and accusing them of doing something you do all the time. You're a hypocrite. Thats what I'm accusing you of. Not some naive notion that players follow some line of ethics when their raiding. Unlike you, I don't lie and hypocritically contradict what I say. I stand by my statements. You're too much of a pansy to even back up your own words. If you're just raiding me, then say it; so the rest of P&W knows that SWF sees all inactives and all applicants of major alliances as fair game for raids. I'll be sure to inform UPN that you completely disregard their rules, and have basically declared against the applicants and inactives of their alliance. Sure thing, tell me if you actually succeed Edited January 18, 2016 by Miles Dyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Incapable of reading and ignorant huh, not really a good combination if you ask me Yeah so? I'm not denying it am I? (even though pretty much 99% of the player base don't give a crap about casus belli in general) You copy paste this in the first post, and now you're calling me playing holier-than-thou, lol. You're too much of a pansy to even back up your own words. If you have the brain capacity to do basic math, or at the very least use the tools here in the forum, you'll find that unless you're not even 100 score near my range; otherwise I would have roll your pathetic butt myself and not having to ask the others And as I've already told you in the PM chat, I'm not just gonna raid you, I'm gonna declare war on you over and over and over until all your infra and improvement turn into dust and you leave the game forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 Incapable of reading and ignorant huh, not really a good combination if you ask me You copy paste this in the first post, and now you're calling me playing holier-than-thou, lol. If you have the brain capacity to do basic math, or at the very least use the tools here in the forum, you'll find that unless you're not even 100 score near my range; otherwise I would have roll your pathetic butt myself and not having to ask the others And as I've already told you in the PM chat, I'm not just gonna raid you, I'm gonna declare war on you over and over and over until all your infra and improvement turn into dust and you leave the game forever. You do see all inactives and all applicants of major alliances as fair game for raids, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Technically, yes But I know that I'll get rekt if I start going on a applicant crusade, so no Guys who I disliked like you though are an exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) "Technically, yes But I know that I'll get rekt if I start going on a applicant crusade, so no Guys who I disliked like you though are an exception." Thanks. I want VE, UPN, BK, Rose, The Syndicate and all the other real alliances out there to know that SWF views their inactives and applicants as fair game for raids; and that SWF could care less about their rules; which is really no different than declaring on every alliance in Orbis, when you really think about it. Now I have proof. Baddabing, baddaboom. Edited January 18, 2016 by Miles Dyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 If the drama queen scrub don't have the intelligence to separate individual from alliance, I see no reason to continue the conversation any longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) If the drama queen scrub don't have the intelligence to separate individual from alliance, I see no reason to continue the conversation any longer See, that one would work if it wasn't for the fact that you sent one of your boys, Socialist Greece, to raid me while I'm an active applicant in UPN. So, you see, not only is it not just you and him, but your leader approved this little witch hunt of yours too; did he not? Thats three accomplices in this. Not to mention your boy who recently raided another applicant of UPN just recently. Now your saying that no alliances are safe from your raid. So at least three of you think its ok to raid applicants and inactives of major alliances. Two of which are officials. Edited January 18, 2016 by Miles Dyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Once again you demonstrate drama queen's professional signature of ignorant, stupidity and assumption I don't know how the other folks in SWF would react had the target been another nations but, for the last dozen times, most people in SWF - raiders or not - dislike you specifically because of your shitty imperialistic "recruitment" method; you don't have to be a genius to be able to figure that out yourself. Ever wonder why Strum kick you out of BK, Yoso apologize to SW on your behalf and UPN still kept you in the applicant zone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles Dyson Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) On 01/17/16 Kolokotronitsi from SWF illegally declared on Flower Hill, an inactive applicant of UPN. On the same day SWF sent out a message to all of their alliance, saying quote: "Message from alliance '''https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=20612 This guy right here^ is a douche poacher whom declare wars on weak nations and force them to join BK or be raided to oblivion. (the prick's even proud about it) Any nations with sufficient military and in range are clear to have a go at this guy and do some public service by looting all his money and resources. Don't worry about UPN, the last thing they're gonna do is protect guys like him." Thats when Socialist Greece, acting under orders, illegally attacked another known applicant of UPN, ME. Something your leader even acknowledged. Now you know you done screwed up, right? NEXT DAY: 01/18/16 Commissar of SWF, Oggy confirms all applicants and all inactives of all major alliances are considered fair game for raids. "Don't worry about UPN?" Are you serious? LMFAO! Thankfully your boy accepted my truce (which isn't surprising seeing as though he was getting REKT), and on top of that, was kind enough to give up that pretty little memo up there for me to post on the forums for all of P&W to see. "Drama queen"? Nah.. If you haven't noticed by now, friend, my methods are effective. STAY DANK AYY LMAO Edited January 18, 2016 by Miles Dyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Unable to refute, thus proceed to repeat things that have already been repeated a thousand times with a dash of propaganda and strawmanned the argument. As expected of someone with a worse-than-a-cat mentality of a 12 years old Hope you mature more the next time I unblock you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dwynn Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The irony of thread is uncanny... 1 Quote He's right, I'm such a stinker. Play my exceptional game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buorhann Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Weren't you in Black Knights, Miles? Are you alliance hopping and trying to stir trouble with whatever alliance you're joining now? 1 Quote Warrior of Dio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPCFQfOnLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Weren't you in Black Knights, Miles? Are you alliance hopping and trying to stir trouble with whatever alliance you're joining now? https://politicsandwar.com/forums/index.php?/topic/10585-a-missive-from-the-knights-of-stormwind-arrives/ tl;dr - BK removed Miles for raiding to resolve this issue. So wasn't intentional alliance hopping per say. Although as Miles said, he was invited back so can't really tell at this point. Edited January 18, 2016 by Hooves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozalia Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I wonder what is UPN's take on this. Assumptions often lead to bad juju let me tell you. SWF really should improve their workrate too. Sending a single guy who was significantly weaker than the target is hardly "punishing", more giving Miles a safe raid on your alliance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassili Dovgan Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 the only reason why Vassili redirect you to me is because I was the one who came up with the idea of rolling you in the first place. That, and the fact that I'm too tired to deal with this kind of BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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