Shadowthrone

Again that's false. Sheesh, reading our reasons would actually be helpful at this point. @Buorhann nice try extrapolating stuff from a response that was dealing with his claims that BK forced their allies into the war. If Rose has a valid reason to enter the war, then almost anyone does tbh, and therefore our reasons are valid and has nothing to do with your claim of secret treaties. But you know, keep trying to spin standards as different for your friends and different for your enemies and expect people to buy it.

That's a nice propaganda line, but I mean treaties are activated when one is hit isn't it? Or is the TKR norm of planning wars on their MD+ allies and letting them get rolled, the accepted form of FA nowadays? Also its rich coming from TKR, when you basically forced folks to stick out in Knightfall when a bunch of em didn't want to. Must be nice living in that glass house though.

Congratulations folks

Fair enough I've lost 0 tanks all war haha. Well then, facts don't lie and "feels" on how the war goes usually is incorrect when you see the real numbers. Carry on though.

I mean some of us are still producing steel and i dare say our steel usage overall would be a lot less given the vast majority off us don’t do tanks for the most bit. But that’s a positive when the larger Econ in this coalition is more centralised in Econ approaches than Coal A. I can account for about 300~ members who run central builds. So I wouldn’t be too surprised. Moreover, a lot of folks even in decentralised alliances refined a tonne of steel pre war and if they didn’t sell of their infra in the opening rounds, their mills are probably still chugging out steel. Also you guys really like your steel?

I doubt Frawley counted tS or any peaced out alliance as a part of his numbers. I mean you're not making much, just face it. We're all running war Econ, the numbers ain't going to be pretty :3

BK-tCW-GoG-Camelot-Acadia-NPO-T$-House-Stark-USN sphere. KT-Guardian-GoB-TGH Sphere-Rose-TKR-Soup-SK-CoS-Ming-NP-Valinor(KERTOG Sphere) Fark-Pantheon-WTF-Horsemen Sphere (Fark Sphere) Fully fixed

Welcome to Orbis. Looking forward to the actual Chaos that you can bring here

I'm quite certain that's a logical leap that's not really based on ground realities. What's holding up peace is not the NAP insofar as Coalition A keeps changing goal posts with the hold up. It seems they don't want to surrender, sign a NAP or any terms whatsoever. We aren't interested in peace otherwise.

That makes 0 sense. Ding ding ding! You finally figured it out!

Because the only side refusing to end this, is the one refusing to surrender. There are always things to fight for though, it just may not fit under your subjective lens as valid.

Could have very likely happened indeed.

Happened before. The game turned out just fine.

It's been done before and worked just fine. I mean if Hodor's worried about bullying as their rep, signing peace and not bullying alliances for a few months would work wonders. But if they want to continue bullying/intimidate folks, then a NAP obviously would not work in their favour, so I mean seems quite counterproductive.

Yes admitting defeat is such a barrier. Lol. But if you want to keep going on with the war, fine with us. I’m not really complaining. I can finally stat pad my loot data.

Snek man god

What truth? That TKR was a threat and we dealt with it? I mean that's been our line since the beginning. But our DoW thread has some wonderful pieces of gold from your sphere with some wonderful proclamations.

Lol this is hilarious. You actually don't have to quote Frawley, feel free to quote me here. I see no reason to fight BK, especially right after the IQ-split, and it definitely wasn't in our interests to do that. We stated the same to Keegoz, when he hit us up to see if we were interested in a BK hit, and also to Rose at the time. So no, we haven't lied or tried to hide that this was not something that wasn't in our interests, and have been up front both privately and publicly about it. But that does not mean that there was some secret agreement between us and BK. It's just the NPO saw no reason to go after BK or BKsphere (blob/w.e) and was far more interested in waiting to see how the sphere as a whole would play out. If our CB is TKR is a threat, and a variety of their actions proved that, then your CB is faulty, since you hit BK since they were threat as well, were they not? So I mean your own CB is faulty by that logic honestly. In fact every CB treating that is essentially dealing with a threat is now faulty by your logic. We did separate. I have no idea what you mean by Kayser shenanigans, but our agreement with tS has been cleared up here time and time again. It was an agreement between them and us, which solely dealt with combining of spheres. Earlier on I explained why/how I saw the potential for the BKsphere blob to be peeled away, which could have engendered the war you so wanted. Instead, by confirming our worst fears of a combined/consolidated sphere hit, you brought us in. While the goalposts/gov may have changed in tS and they saw the situation differently, to us it was always necessary to ensure for the project to work, that other sphere's don't combine for hits, since that ends the security of the project. So here we are. Do not worry friend. We will defend your honour! The NPO is after all nothing more than your devoted servant.

Sucks to be them then. Haha, but I liked Felkey. He was the only one who was willing to take risks/do different things, even though his hands were quite tied

But Clarke did nothing wrong! inb4 TKR claims we're trying to make them support cheaters/banned members.

Aww seems like I struck a nerve. Still missing a couple though to be EMC in its entirety.

Touche. Given how Adrienne was busy trying to have them be paperless, this is true. I think we'e had the whole crew back together now? Thrax, Partisan, even Lordship woke up, Buorhann, Abbas. It really feels like 2017 all over again ❤️ All we need to do is find Felkey and return him from the beach, I hope he's carried enough sun screen though.

Well with the return of Rose and Buorhann to the fold, and the nifty pickup of KT, I think EMC-Lite works quite well In essence outside of tCW, the entire crew's almost back to defend their hegemony.

I mean EMC-lite works well Always good to have the old club back together

Why indeed. I’m truly awaiting the big gotcha moment.