Sketchy

You talked shit without knowing what you were talking about. Take your L.

SleepingNinja tryna be the new Firwof I see.

Because it's a game. Picturing scenarios from real life was your first mistake. The game should be balanced around mechanics, not around meticulous realism. You could find 100 other glaring issues with the game that way.

As I said at the time of it's proposal, 2,5x updeclare range was way too much. It's kind of ridiculous, you can literally updeclare on anyone now. I never saw the need for an increase at all, but if it's not being reverted, it should at least be decreased to 2.0x. I don't think the new projects need to be changed really. If this war proved anything, it's that they aren't that significant of a change to the meta. Not necessarily opposed to increasing the cost of nukes, but I feel like it would be better to increase the alum cost, which obviously needs more sinks in the game, than the uranium cost. 750 Alum > 1000 Alum would be better in my opinion.

In the 8 or so years I've played this game, one of the consistent impediments to changes that improve the war system is how those same changes would impact raiding as a mechanic. Actual substantive progress on improving war mechanics, held back because of conflicting priorities. Seperating the two mechanics creates an opportunity to improve both without making the other worse.

Hmm. I am unsure whether or not opening Navy up to hit other units is a good or bad thing. Game already is very rock paper scissors, units feel interchangeable. Perhaps it would be better to make them actual viable infra killers? Reduce costs to operate and build, and make them more specialized towards dealing infra damage. Perhaps give them special attacks for breaking controls? Like for example, 6 or 8 maps to break ground/air control. Something that gives them a more unique style, rather than becoming Planes 2.0 but less cost effective. I don't mind this idea. As long as the costs and bonuses are scaled properly, which would presumably be something that is hammered down later. I think small incremental amounts would be ideal, so 0.1% seems right. Obviously I assume they'd be a bit cheaper than cities. A 10% bonus to military (which it seems would require 100 upgrades) would be pretty significant, especially since I assume it would scale by city size. I think the main issue, is like cities, this needs some sort of soft or hard cap, and to prevent things from getting out of hand. Oh boy. Yeah I've been an advocate of doing something like this for awhile. Raiding and War are two mechanics that have in many cases opposing priorities. Having to consider how changes will impact raiding, every single time a war change is discussed, has held back both from evolving as mechanics. Separating the two out allows both to be worked on and improved.

Instructions Unclear, declared perma war on EVH and deleted the peace negotiation server.

I could always do what all the other majors do and ignore you. Would you prefer that? 🤣

I think you should make up your mind. You are complaining about a long nap between t$ and us, whilst simultaneously complaining about us also fighting them all the time. My actual point was that retention has little to do with the issue you guys are whining about, which is true. I think you just exist to complain. Start contributing to the game and doing something. For all your talk of farming, I've fought plenty in the past year. I've started multiple global wars. I am not sitting around with my finger up my ass complaining about the state of the game on deaf ears. Don't like the dynamic? You've had ample opportunity to step up and change it. But alas, as it is for many in the peanut gallery, you would rather sit in your alliance, an alliance which, I might add, has engaged in all the same things you are currently complaining about, and whine.

The decline in players in general has nothing to do with 6 month naps. There has been major wars during these naps, it's not as if the game has sat at peace for any extended time. People can literally look at the wiki or food charts and see as much. We have had 3 Global wars so far this year, 4 if you split the two ones we have just had. Player engagement is down because the lower tier meta is shit and filters out half the new playerbase, a meta that most of the people who are complaining about naps also support. Wars always drive players out of the game, peace is when you see growth and retention.

You RN

Actually friend, I believe you are still in the war.

Syndicate, The Legion, and World Task Force surrender to the combined forces of the Greatest Dogpile Ever™ Terms and Conditions of the Non Aggression Pact The Non Aggression Pact will last until Friday March 28th 2025 00:00 UTC. The Golden Horde, The High Table, Antarctica Alliance, SFR Yugoslavia and Unforgiven Legion will sign a separate NAP, until January 25th, 2025 at 00:00 UTC, with the same terms. 99942 Apophis has abstained from the NAP. The NAP covers the following: No wars on members No raids on members No mass ghosting to hit coalition members No shell alliance hits No spy attacks will be carried out against the other coalition’s members No hiring of mercenaries or raiders to hit the opposing coalition signatories Signatories may defend direct non chaining Mutual Defense treaties with non signatories, against other signatories without breaching the nap. Signatories may not defend Optional Defense treaties with non signatories, against signatories. Signatories may not accept members that leave Signatory alliances to conduct attacks on other Signatory alliances into their alliance, nor protect them from retaliatory attacks through protectorates or extensions, for the duration of the nap. Additional Terms The war is to be named "Darkest Hour Deux" All alliances are to return to their pre war colour. Syndicate and Syndicate extensions must remain on green for the duration of the nap. Switching from green to for example: tank a rival colour, or to snipe treasures, will be considered a breach of the nap, and Syndicate will lose their nap protection. The above conditions also apply to The Enterprise, on lime. Syndicate and Syndicate members may not approach individual members of alliances in the Greatest Dogpile Ever™ coalition in order to purchase treasures. All treasure deals must be negotiated with the leadership of those alliances. Attempts to circumvent negotiation with leadership will be considered a breach of the nap, and Syndicate will lose their nap protection. Enterprise members may not raid the applicants or members of any Greatest Dogpile Ever™ coalition alliance. Diplomacy will be conducted for singular infractions but repeated infractions will be considered a breach of the nap, and Syndicate will lose their nap protection. Peace will take effect immediately as of this post. Any wars declared prior to peace may be finished by beige, peace, or expiration. Any wars declared after peace must be peaced as soon as possible. List of Signatories Rose Singularity The Fighting Pacifists Guardian Antarctica Alliance Global Alliance & Treaty Organization The Golden Horde Name Withheld The High Table United Purple Nations United Ummah Black Knights Arkham Asylum SFR Yugoslavia Pokimans Mayhem United Socialist Nations Oblivion Unforgiven Legion Yarr Gallowglass Akatsuki Shadow Valley The Armed Peacekeepers The Syndicate The Legion World Task Force The Enterprise The Foundation

I considered doing a reread in prep for book 5 but then I remembered how long they all are and how busy I am lmfao. I'll just wing it when the book comes out and hope I haven't forgotten any important details 🤣

Also true unfortunately

Based and true

James Wilson stepped aside, and the world breathed a sigh of relief, finally, rationality and reasonableness has come to The Immortals. But alas, we did not foresee the coming of Graves, awoken from his eternal slumber by the annoying gnat that is Event Horizon, buzzing in his ear, Graves, a giant amongst men, lumbered out of his gilded bean bag, and graced us with his glorious opinions. And the politics of The Immortals, no, all of Orbis, were never the same again.

True, it is a constant that people let me be leader. 🤣

The one constant this game seems to have is there is always an alliance stupid enough to let Killzbob in.

Sounds like a retreat to me. It was a pleasure as always Shiho. Better luck next time.

I have been informed Shiho has retreated from the argument due to me directly criticizing him as an IC FA personality, rather than just his alliance, despite him doing so repeatedly. Apparently any sort of criticism of ingame actions and public statements is over the line for Shiho. I humbly regret my words, suggesting Shiho might be a viable candidate for the Syndicate top job was clearly a misstep, some people are simply not ready for such a strenuous task. I want to take this time to thank Tarroc for his bravery in being a true leader, standing up for his alliance, and placing his own personal reputation in the firing line. I commend him. rip-bozo.mp4

Nice try but I already addressed this earlier, as did you. We didn't agree with the terms they presented, and we asked for your terms. You keep trying to move goalposts, so let me restate my allegation in the clearest terms for you. You wanted to delay the war, so you intentionally kept the discussions seperate and made it a precondition that we peace out a seperate group, before you would give us your terms. Not just peace, provide us your terms. Which you had no reason to withhold if they were reasonable. You wanted WTF and co out of the war so they wouldn't have stay in whilst you negotiated with us further. You say "oh we would have given you nice fluffy terms" whilst you were simultaneously gloating about signing our protectorates and hitting our as of yet unsigned allies with the CB that they signed us, and you want us to believe you were gonna deal with kid gloves? Whilst doing whatever you could to hide those terms and get us to peace out and submit to another set of stupid ass terms lol. Whilst very publicly claiming we would be fighting again in the future? Except you are mentioning it. How is your defense to me saying that you are complaining about a dogpile, literally: "No bro I'm not complaining about dogpiles, I'm just for no apparent reason noting the dogpile, which is no ordinary dogpile, but like bro i wouldn't even have mentioned it if it wasn't a super bad dogpile bro, but like im not complaining bro just noting it down for some reason bro" Are you alleging that this dogpile is worse than other dogpiles or not? If so are you going to expand on that or just keep telling me how you've noted it down like it's just a very interesting factoid with no other implications. I mentioned earlier but you have the subtlety of a shovel, if you are gonna try and be slick and sly please do better than "im just noting how notable it is" and "let's let the people decide im totally not trying to sway opinion without stating one because my opinion is bad". Christ lmfao. Since I didn't reference Duck Hunt until you did, I'm going to keep this brief. Everything you just said is historical revisionism and or outright lying. Quack was staying together. Quack filled the power vacuum after IQ after disbanded despite promising to split up. Quack got rolled for it. You wanna rant about that go ahead, my point, which you agreed to, was that Quack was the biggest sphere in the game, and that sort of thing invites and usually necessitates a coalition that inevitably becomes a dogpile. Fortuna was also the biggest sphere in the game. The fact you dispute this is peak hilarity to me. No other sphere had two major alliances in it at that point, no other sphere had that much upper tier consolidation. For a reminder, the other spheres were Withheld, HOGG, and Florida. Point to the one you claim was bigger, then name the alliances you are claiming were in it. Haha, guess you missed my point again. I already told you in my DOW, but I'll repeat it for posterity. I'm going to cross whatever line you cross, do whatever you do, back to you. I am going to fight fire with fire. So it's really up to you guys, and I suppose anyone else who wishes to come at us, how far you want things to go. The fact you brought this up is great. Are you saying you have an issue with it? Surely not. Don't worry unlike Quack, I promise to split it up, and I'll actually follow through. But I certainly would hope you aren't claiming to be upset about yet another thing you've done yourself. Only so many indefensible positions you should take at once Shiho, didn't Partisan teach you anything? Yeah, I haven't shared anything because it's none of your business, nor is it owed to you. I told you I wasn't interested in engaging in your attempts to bait an argument with EVH. I read the EVH post, and I responded to it. We spoke privately afterwards. Same reason I've not bothered to address your transparent attempts to glaze TKR in your previous posts. Do have to ask though, since we are on the subject, where exactly was Tarroc's supposed benevolence 3 months ago when you all agreed to sign the nap that !@#$ed over TKR? I guess Syndicates sense of justice must suspiciously coincide with your odds of victory. Thank the lord I've not placed myself on such a lofty pedestal. See, I can make stupid unsubtle attempts to kiss ass too. I'm sure TKR is having the time of their lives, sitting out in peace right now, relaxing, watching the shitshow while you give them a light rimming. Stick to your own talking points friend, you have enough to worry about. Of course not, Tarroc is Jesus here, the benevolent messiah of ODOO, not you. Hahahaha. Oh god, of all the things you could have said, you said this. You are so close to getting it Shiho. I'm aware you are fine with revenge as a CB. I was also fine with it, but you decided to expand it to include a bunch of other shit, and draw my attention to you. I already said it Shiho. I'm doing to you, what you did to us. Do you get it yet? Haha, your first post you literally summarized what I said as stuff, and then prefaced it, like you often do, by saying I was spinning things, but then repeatedly failed to articulate what or how I was spinning things, even going as far as to change your own arguments to then strawman mine. You've repeatedly avoided arguments by making your statements as vague as possible, or trying to leave it up to others to decide, rather than standing behind your arguments. Meanwhile I've come at your points directly and broken down and responded to them. But yeah keep going on about how I'm spinning things without saying anything substantive yourself. If you want to talk about things that are sad to see, let's talk about you. I've refrained from directly talking about your history as an FA entity up until now, as Tarroc is the FA head of your alliance and should bear the responsibility of it's decisions, but since you insist on continuing to play frontman instead of letting Tarroc do his job, which I will say, despite his stumbles he was doing a better job than you of making Syndicate look sympathetic with his "I'm just a reasonable guy look at these mean Singularity people" act, and coming directly at me, I'll address you. You have in this very thread demonstrated your own lack of credibility. You are someone who switches up on friends. I know this from experience. You've mentioned your time in Rose here multiple times in order to allege a variety of claims. It's a nice thing I'm sure, being able to make basically any claim you like because you were in Rose once, but I gotta ask, how does Rose feel about you waving your time in their alliance, in their faces? You'll say anything and burn anyone for the party line. It's your nature. Right now, you are going back and making excuses for Syndicates past, completely ignoring the fact that during Fortuna, you asked to join the war on our side. Why? It was a dogpile right? Fortuna wasn't the biggest sphere, why would you sign up for such a fight? You switched up on t$, then you switched up on Rose, back to t$. And now it's business as usual, and all of your private criticisms of Tarroc and Wana disappear. It would be one thing, if you were the FA head of Syndicate, and wading into these waters was unavoidable for you, but you aren't. You choose to come out and fight Tarroc's battles for him on your own. That and, had you been, I doubt Rose would be fighting you at all. Maybe you should apply for the top job. After all, on some level, you clearly want it. At least then, you'll be responsible for your own actions and can stop stumping for others. It is sad. It's sad to see instead of a new generation of perhaps different and more interesting Syndicate leaders, I return to the game to see you two clowns both poorly larping as Partisan. Get a new schtick.

Again, considering you weren't inside our government chats you are just pulling shit out of your ass. I agree it's unlikely you were lied to, I think you are just full of shit lmfao. If you want to see my argument, go read my previous posts. As Abaddon seems to have repeated, you guys already admitted those numbers were in your corner from the get go. I see no reason to continuously go around in circles on whether KT/CTO was in SAIL, you guys already admitted it, but are just gaslighting. Waste of my time. I sImPlY prEseNtEd derrr InFoMatIons for derrr PeOple to DeciDe. Bro what you doing rn lmfao. Is this actually what you think being subtle looks like? Yes, you are presenting the information in the hopes people will believe these wars aren't a dogpile. There is no other reason to do it. My guess at this point is you made the mistake initially of trying to say otherwise, and now this is your half arsed attempt to walk it back without walking it back. Stop trying to hide behind "the peoples decision" and just be honest. Were they dogpiles or were they not dogpille. I'll respond to the rest of your silly post in a bit on my phone, as I have to leave now.

I'm glad my dense and complex analogy managed to avoid soaring above at least one person's cranium.

Alright, before I get into responding to your actual points, I have got to ask. Does this sanitized corpo-speak crap not get a little tiring? Come on Tarroc, you already dropped the act last war, when you were in a winning position, why are you retreating into this politik-speak car salesman stuff again? Even Partisan at his most sterile, added a little spice, a bit of paprika in the mix. And don't even get me started on WANA, are you trying to overcorrect because of him? I'm not asking for a Darkest Hour crash out rant or anything man, but a little bit of honest abrasiveness won't hurt you man. I feel like I'm speaking to ChatGPT, and I'M the guy in the AI themed alliance. Alright let's go. Put em up. Alright so you agree you hit them because they were intended to sign us, for a war that hadn't happened yet. Literally what else do I need to say here. You've just made my entire argument for me, albeit while trying to add a dozen caveats and softening the blow. It's all well and good to say all these other reasons, but then the question of why you thought to single out their desire to sign us as a reason at all immediately comes to the forefront, especially when you heavily enforced that as one of your main reasons. It suggests that signing us alone, everything else non-withstanding, was a reason enough to hit them. Here is my question then. If I found out tomorrow, that an alliance was intending to sign you, after the war was over, and I assumed that, given you clearly are not happy with us after this one, you might try to use that alliance to hit us, that I am what, within my rights to just hit them? With that as my CB? And that wouldn't be interpreted by you, as the clear intention, by me, to go to war with you, again, and to keep going to war with you? If you felt you had a case against TFP to hit them, why mention Singularity at all? What exactly was the purpose of mentioning our impending treaty, let alone making it the cornerstone of your CB. If you aren't even contesting the actual claim itself, the only conclusion I can draw here, is you consider that perfectly fine. In which case, you have nothing to complain about from my post. I disagree, I consider it a clear indicator that alliance intends to fight you in the future, and an escalation of what is within I suppose, the reasonable terms of engagement, and you don't. Either way, like I said in my post, if you do things like this, I will match you on them. If you think it's perfectly reasonable, then you have nothing to worry or complain about. You made a comment on RON, it was noticed. I didn't include it in my original post for a reason. I don't particularly care about it. I was just one of a few things that cemented our opinion you weren't interested in peace, or operating in good faith. You aren't obligated to operate in good faith, so it doesn't matter, but it lends to our overall expectation that no, withholding your terms from us was being done with intent, and we had no reason to expect that intent was good. It's no different than you making the claim that us responding to you hitting us by being aggressive, is somehow an indicator that we'll be fighting you in the future, except, we aren't using it as some sort of justification to hit you, which is why it wasn't included in my original post. Everything else you said here is irrelevant, I never accused you of threatening them or any such thing. I never said you were successful in your attempt to poach. I merely noted you were gloating about it, which you were, and how that informed our perception of the sentiment in your coalition. Oh pleasssseeee. I was ready to dismiss this, as I didn't even make the point that Sing being Florida was why you targeted it. But I grow weary of this "I was truly concerned about how lopsided the war was going to be" shit you keep doing. You've already conceded the whole "Hegemonic Sphere Creation" CB untrue, although you've hesitated to just say it was a complete fabrication, rather calling it a mistake, despite it being unfathomable how you could say something that obviously isn't true mistakenly. Let's actually assess what that war was in the light of day. Florida, prior to the formation of Singularity, was the smallest sphere. We were not some megalithic sphere holding the game by the balls, we weren't even large enough to beat Fortuna, the sphere you just came from, in a one v one. Right after the Fortuna war ended, we discovered very early, that TKR had plans to hit us. And let's assess what that would have looked like. TKR had just signed Grumpy, and had most of the alliances that we now know as Penta, Bourbon Street, Themselves...and wait for it...CATA. Their intention was to hit us, with all these numbers. And, we also know that Aurora had approached them, and were going to be part of that conflict against us. That would have been, by any reasonable definition, a dogpile. That was the intention. All that Florida did, for all your talk of the heinous consolidation that took place, was even those numbers out, via a merge. Not a treaty, a merge, that would have happened regardless due to Cata's slew of retirements and general inability to continue operation. What YOU did, was secure a dogpile for TKR. Now, had you left it at that, simply claimed a revenge CB, which would have been abundantly fair, and not made such grandiose claims in your CB about "Hegemonic Sphere Creation." and tried to pass yourself off as some sort of messiah, rather than someone who had just helped reinforce an existing dogpile that we had maneuvered our way out of, we likely wouldn't even be fighting right now. But you did, in what would become a pattern for you, draw our attention away from the alliance that had primarily aggrieved us, towards you. Which is, ironically, what inspired the cuck meme we launched at you that war. You came out, and ran interference for and stumped for TKR, against your own interests. Fair cop to TKR for allowing you to do that, it was a masterstroke on their part, and admittedly, we couldn't resist the desire to react to such a blatant display of goosestepping. You would then go on to do this again in our next war, by drawing our attention away from Aurora, the alliance we were primary aggrieved with. I know you think, that because we reacted to you in such a negative fashion in the previous war, that it must mean we were solely trained on you. But as Shiho accidentally admitted earlier whilst trying to say we were laser focused on you, we had an extensive list of grudges, and were very much live in making the decision on who we would actively pursue. We did eventually make that decision. We chose to go after KT, for not honouring our treaty. I don't care what rumors, insinuations or such you think give you a clear picture of what we intended to do. You seem to have mistaken my intent by claiming this. Absolutely no one thinks, that Singularity didn't have an axe to grind with Syndicate. It would be a futile effort to attempt to claim otherwise. What I'm telling you, is exactly what we planned to do, to both illustrate that, despite your thinking, you are not actually the center of our universe, and have almost never been at the top of our shitlist, until the end of last war, where it was made clear that we were at the top of yours. I don't care if you believe it or not, but it doesn't do you any benefit to ignore what I'm saying. You have, it seems, missed the mark. I'm not claiming victimhood. These posts are not an attempt to appease the peanut gallery, whose opinion isn't going to change regardless of what is said, it's not to appeal to other neutral parties with actual political power, many of whom likely will disagree with some of the points I've made in this thread, as they contradict their own perceptions and narratives of events that have transpired both past and present. If playing the victim to win public opinion was my goal here, I'd act like you, pretend to be reasonable, and without malice, as that is normally what works. I'm just telling you, why I'm hitting you. I'm giving you my playbook. You can go back and read what I've said, and understand it, and use it to avoid the pitfalls you've stepped into previously, if that is your prerogative. Or you can ignore it, refute it. Either way, I and Sing will continue to be the alliance we've been, win or lose, play the game the way we want to, and you can do you. I think I'll leave it there. I don't particularly feel like going in circles about KT and CTO being a part of SAIL. We aren't going to agree on that.