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Actually, the blame falls squarely on leo and curu. They did everything in their power to piss off everyone not bk, npo or goons. In the end they failed their members the most. It saddens me to see bk disband but leo and curu can just piss off for all the garbage they did.

Where was all this moral outrage about log dumps when they were benefiting you after tCW left coalition B to support their allies?

Well, someone had to give him the role on discord to allow him to enter the channel or the proper permission on forums, so once again that would be a screw up by your people.

If they come back hopefully they will all have new leadership because their old leaders failed them.

Nah, Tiber is OK and he has 2 other people there with him. This one on the other hand didn't even have the decency to delete after the mess he helped create. https://politicsandwar.com/nation/id=22102

I wouldn't blame the rank and file members. From what I have heard the members have lost as much or more than the loans they owe.

Sure it is. BK's leaders failed their members in the worst way. Leo disbanded the alliance and deleted his nation. Curu made the alliance The Black Knights went into VM for a year. In doing so they defaulted on several loans that were given to them in good faith and stole billions from their members as well. Unless of course Curu has it hidden his new alliance even though that would be against the rules on bank hiding.

Too bad they didn't pay back all the loans they took out and all the money their members had in the bank.

Someone drank way too much of the kool-aid I see.

Actually, it is black and white. You guys were trading real world goods for in-game goods. That is against the rules and always has been. So you were cheating and got caught and are now trying to do damage control but no one is buying it so you might stop wasting everyone's time and just give it up.

Well Leo, I told Curu that you guys had sold your soul to the devil and I guess now it's time to pay the butchers bill. It's just too bad you had to take a proud and active alliance with you. While I wish you well in RL, I won't miss your massive douchebagery in the game.

Quite honestly, if a few, or more than a few cheaters and their friends quit the game because the cheaters got caught and punished rather lightly. I don't see how that hurts the game in any way. Cheaters suck and should be banned permanently, so they got off easy.

No, I just don't suffer fools gladly. Coalition B's actions during this war have been reprehensible The total garbage of the peace terms and the way the peace talks were conducted are total bullshit. So now that npo has been found to be cheating and been lightly punished for it you are all oh poor us, admin is so unfair. If you are going to leave, please do so but just stop with the pity party. You have way better options than you ever offered the people you were fighting in the war. So suck it up or get out, but for all that is holy, shut the hell up.

Oh FFS, enough with the pity party. You guys screwed up and tied yourselves to IQ and now hat it isn't working out you want to quit. You got white peace and a 6 month NAP. So you have 6 months to try and mend the fences you tore down during this stupid war. So either suck it up and do so or shut the hell up and leave.

You might want to talk to Sphinx about how I felt about staying in the war after about 4 months and what my feelings were/are about the peace terms and talks.

Good to see. At least someone has some common sense and isn't crying in their beer.

You might want to ask around. I detest long wars and am generally in favor of white peace at the end.

You guys acted like complete and total asses during the war until NPO got caught cheating and got punished so now that you can't win the war any longer you are pissing and moaning about the game and leaving. Please just shut up and leave already.

I guess the thing people can learn form this, not that they will, is to not be an incredible dick when you are on top because the worm always turns. If you don't act like a huge ass then people are more willing to be nicer to you when they are on top. You've made your bed, now lie in it or just leave but do stop trying to get pity for your mistakes.

The funny thing is, you can avoid the toxic nature of the forums by just not reading them or replying on them, you can not avoid the war unless you delete or go into VM so I would say the way the war has gone is much worse and caused more people to leave then the forums ever will.

Sigh, let's be honest here. This war could have been over 3-4 months ago except for the actions of some of the leaders on both sides, but mostly Coalition B leaders dragging this crap out until it has come to this. So, was it worth it?

So, you act like complete and total !@#$ when you think you have the upper hand but when things go the other way you quit? How very special you are.

Oh Curu, you poor naive fool. Given that you never played CN I can pity you but to equate Gorge and Akuryo in-game antics the the out of game actions of Goons is just beyond the pale. You should take a tour of of their mercy boards sometime. Perhaps then you would understand. Of course that would require you to stop lying to yourself so I doubt you have balls to do so. Quite frankly you guys have been lying to everyone for so long I doubt you even know what the truth is any longer.

Perhaphs if you would think it through you would come to the understanding that I don't do it for him but for the members of tCW much as you do what you do for the members of BK. Unless of course you are fully onboard with all the shady and disgusting theings that Leo and Roq have been doing during this war. If that is the case it is you that will be smeared with offal from the company you're choosing to keep. Really Curu, people that live in glass houses shouldn't be casting stones. You guys signed NPO and Goons. You really have no room to talk about terrible allies.

Sigh, no you are not history's greatest monster but you do enable Leo on his quest to do stupid things. As I recall, I was in BK's government channels and at times held their bank during a war and had zero affect on what Leo and upper government did at the time as well. So that dog don't hunt. Leaving my alliance during a war, however I felt about what my government was doing is something I am very loath to do and is something that I would take a very long time to decide. No matter how most people in this game feel about it I still have a great deal of personal honor and will do what I feel is the right thing for me. Just because you have sold your soul to the devil doesn't mean I should or will.