dtc justice

ugh does this mean imma have to declare on TFP mid war and then join TFP for a couple months after the global ends, to do training for punishment like last time we were allied?

LOOK MOM, IM FAMOUS! glad to be the first person to receive a "punishment" for my excellence during a global war id like to thank the academy, and this is my formal request to be nominated for largest epeen of the year, for my 2nd time

Less than you would think, I paid like 30m total for the paid ops. Most were free ops, from my circle of spy peeps

To be fair this wasn't a rose thing, this was a dtc is too neurotic and didn't wanna lose a spy war thing Rose wasn't aware and rose wasn't financially involved 🫠

If you think spying is headless chicken then you really are still in the dark on how alliances should be spying Do you ever get tired of making these same posts every war?

I wonder if t$ understands what 72h means 🙃 they know its not 72hr orbis time right?

Oblivion with the 50 city average

Well thats embarrassing for us Also, why did you guys decide on a 5 day cap? Seems kinda redundant to give them all this incentive to get back into the fight but not give them their full rebuy? Also can't really organize a proper comeback if the alliance beige timers are all scattered a day or 2 behind. If 30% of the sphere or alliance comes off beige 1 or 2 days before the rest (due to not being maxed yet) then there's really no point in rebuilding at all, since they already wiped 100% of the sphere, 30% coming out is a walk in the park.

Feel free to share ss's of those messages because to my knowledge that's false

Also @Prefontaineif you notice, your original post has 25 down votes and my long response has 18 up votes, and if you look closer at the names there's many reputable people on those votes Stop pushing your own agenda and have an actual spy dev team 😇

I will again mention, your changes are meant to make it easier for a spy comeback, and to level the playing field correctly? Your changes make it so rose will never lose another spy war, if these changes were live for this war HW would be wiped after we all rebuilt in the reserve. You're trying to make it more even but in fact you're making it much more of a rose spy game. I'm against the changes even though they benefit rose Edit: I'll also mention, rose spy team is putting out probably 100 hours per day combined of labour involved with spying, you can't say it's an unfair mechanic when almost every other alliances uses a very bad bot system to do ops. It's not the mechanics that are broken, it's the laziness of other alliances that make it appear broken

And it would be interesting to see who is actually in your design team, would you mind listing the names?

In a 1v1 sure, in a global that's not plausible, you have like 1000 members that need to be wiped before you can think of swapping to military kills. 3x'n buy rates and nearing spy sat makes it near impossible to effectively spy military in a global.

Yes I see some logs of the spy talk stuff, these changes are top dramatic and game breaking, if you want to make spies useless and have sheepy refund billions in sats, then by all means

Hidude gave change ideas because pre was insisting on sat change ideas

Pre, quit trying to reinvent the wheel. You know very little of the spy game so these changes do way more harm than good, the people who are supporting the changes don't know much about spying either Spy training rates are tripled. (8 can go into reserve and 4 into active or 12 can go into reserve with all spy projects. 6 can be made per day with no spy projects and you can have up to 4 of them be active duty) As I bring up every time this thread is made, if you increase the spy production then there becomes 0 purpose of spying, you cannot effeftively spy military or nukes/missiles in a global war if the rates are increased, you will be stuck continuously killing spies. It takes a lot of coordination to wipe the enemy sphere, AND still still keep them low enough to spy military daily. you're also talking about reducing the kill rates, which makes it near impossible to wipe the sphere combined with increased rates. spy sats having 3 ops instead of the % damage boost is a fairly large nerf and makes the 500m+ projects really not worth it, there's nothing wrong with spy sats, since most people who care about spies enough, have sats, or they're too small to matter. I get you're trying to balance things but in your changes there's like 8 game changing changes, how do you expect balance when many of those things will break a whole part of war. This global should be a more eye opening experience for those who normally complain about roses spying. Rose lost the spy front for the first time, we were not prepared, we ignored leaks, we didn't make sheets, we didn't warn members to be active. They spy blitzed us and we weren't able to recover, we fought and it was near flipping but we failed. Do you see our spy team complaining that it's broken? No, instead rose is still doing 250 ops per day suiciding into tanks at 50% success rates. Spies are NOT broken, people just complain because they are either too lazy to put in the effort, or have no knowledge on how spies actually work. Also one last point, if you allow rose to do a full reserve setup like you're saying, then rose will never lose a spy front, since we would.turn any defensive spy war into an offensive front when we please.

I'd like to hear what makes you think you're not a micro

Okay so you want spy attacks to kill 4 spies? So when exactly do alliances get to spy military during a global? Mechanics are fine, you're rewarded for being offensive, which is realistic otherwise nobody would go to war

Nukes and missiles add to score which is why this wouldn't work You also can't just have 300 nukes with 0 side effects, such as jacking up your score to levels that put you in a new tier

It's based off their current amount not their potential max, if they're rebuying from 0, you can't wipe that rebuy from ops. If someone goes from 0 to 10k tanks with a double buy you can only kill 750 max with a sat Your math on a maxed whatever city was accurate, it's the fact you listed tanks and soldiers as your 2 examples which shows you're just a whale who doesn't know war

Funny you say atlas unmerged, all the members worth keeping, stayed

That didn't last long:( all dead

Thanks for donating your spies! We just finished knocking everyone else below 20

And why would it be beneficial for everyone to know every alliances' wealth? Thats pretty dumb lol

Tbh I think spies should be buffed and deal more damage