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You do realize your now protectorate (TAO/Cybertron) did exactly that same thing to involve itself in conflict with THT back in December? They signed your other now prot (Shadow Valley) and tried to enforce an NAP which THT had with TAO/Camelot, and then escalated a conflict crying foul the whole time. Lol. I simply just enjoy watching selective applications of logic when it’s convenient. It’s also why I’m a fan of public FA. Theater in front of a large audience. 🍿

So doesn’t that then apply to your argument about Shadow Valley being spied by Rose allegedly? You have an NAP with Rose, but they don’t have an NAP with Shadow Valley (or MoO) by your own words above. 🤔

So does this mean Spectre will stop its protectorate (Mercenaries of Orbis) from attacking alliances (or protectorates of those alliances) which Spectre has an existing NAP with? ((Holding out microphone for comment))

Disable running spy ops while beige (offensive and defensive). Buff the rebuy for spies while beige like we do other military units. Those simple adjustments alone will improve spy usage and address the annoyances many people have. You shouldn’t be able to be spy wiped in less than 2-days but need 20 days to max rebuy (assuming you don’t get constantly wiped as you try to rebuy).

10 YEARS! Congrats.

The victim mentality and propaganda gets so old. People are critiquing and counting nations that leave/delete Camelot and Samurai to show the impact your decision making has led to. No one wants these players to quit the game or delete. However, alliance members speak their voice with loyalty or dissent. It’s may be time to admit the fault in your actions and the position you put the members of both your alliances into by squandering their finances and violating an NAP because of your own trademark paranoia and propaganda. But, if it’s more important to you to “be right” than to be humble enough to admit your mistake, then the end result will be what it is. You can’t simply shift blame to those who opposes what you did, and gaslight them for your current self-imposed reality. Actions have consequences.

So the UN concept was a good idea…. Until it punished Camelot for its actions? 🤦🏻‍♂️

…Or there could just be no debate at this point and Cam/Sam could continue their epic raiding adventure and we’ll see how this all ends. 🤷🏻‍♂️

This is truly the 2:42 TLDR version of recent events. 🏆

lol. I guess we were overdue for a rebrand from this group.

Huh? He can both stream it and record it to save on his YouTube channel. So you can’t suggest it gets altered, censored, etc.

Epi’s ability to stream his own device on YouTube has nothing to do with someone else (the moderator) controlling the Debate Audio platform.

Did you just use the classic media example where some reporter calls to ask for an interview on short notice and the person they ask isn’t available to comment? So it gets used against them? 😂 (I’m loving this whole saga, honestly.)

That was what Kev was doing… But Epi feels the need to control this from his side, which is completely defeating the purpose of having a debate if he’s going to try to get “home field advantage”

Why would one party participating in the debate be allowed to control the platform? 🤦🏻‍♂️

I found this in a public restroom today. This may be the answer Epi needs.

You would have been better off staying silent. Like I told you in DMs, it’s hard to justify actions when the side who is claiming to be valid hasn’t presented more than “we know this is happening” and can’t actually produce proof. Instead, they’re relying on the other side to proof them wrong. It’s completely illogical.

Just go to 27:00 mark when Epi says they are pivoting away from war with Rose because they need to raid for resources since they’re well is dry. Tell me you want peace without telling me you want peace….

Update. I tried to listen to the response video. Almost the first 5-minutes are setting up recording and technical stuff (which evidentially was working the whole time). then I started doing heavy construction demo on my house to drown out the rambling and propaganda.

Even for him it shouldn’t take an hour and a half to say “Yeah, I lied.” I’m not listening to that. Can’t imagine there is a single minute that includes something new, relevant, or factual to support this NAP break.

One is an individual. Two or more is an alliance.

By definition, one nation cannot be an alliance. You do not exist.

Huh? 😵‍💫

Don’t worry I’m sure you’ll be surprised when they blitz you on June 29th. Oops. Spoiler alert.

I think you just illustrate my point even more in this response. You can’t play a game and appreciate it for what it is. It has to blur beyond that for you. And, on top of that, you genuinely believe that it’s unfair you aren’t as popular/successful/liked/etc as other people because of how you have played the game. Sorry you didn’t get picked to be on the winning team? Much of this thread reminds me of other players who complain (I’ll be nice and not name names) simply because they cannot build an adequate alliance, no one will “let” them be high gov, or they lack basic understanding that other people aren’t to blame for their lack of success in Orbis. So, I respectfully call bullshit.