brucemna

Spin doctor

Disappointment is a understanding peace of mind. But was dont not wash is a AA that does not have the resources to be extended beyond its means to be able to fight any length of war regardless of length should not be chastised for thinking of the whole membership. This seems to be a big problem and stated many times by many people. Coalition A is not thinking of ALL members and what is best for the whole side. Instead the leadership are taking axstamd as it seems they are butthurt over logs and behind channel conversations. Personally if u can not take the heat amd hold of for personal grudge or hatred and put ur own members in a class that cause they do not have the means to accomplish a goal or need is a selfish act. Too many leaders or gov members seem to forget with leadership comes great responsibility to its membership for their self bring remember it is the membership nation that is suffering. The needs of the many outlay the needs of the few. When being a representative of ur member nations pride and circumstance must be put on the wayside until a time u r in a position in the future to actually find the retribution that is being seeked. Instead they ate trying to take this public to try and justify holding out by posting logs or repeating comvos that really are just statements of diplomacy that one needs hard skin to achieve the end goal. Coalition A states oh we surrender and accept the talks for the peace terms but yet escalate the matter through a war of words which has only prolonged and escalated something that could of be over by now.

If a alliance is not paranoid then they are letting their guard down. Considering over the number of posts over numerous threads andleaks from were I beleive someone mentioned that were given by someone on r side and other open and stated facts plus the biggest indication of all that many people can not let go of NPO 's past from other realms and events I think yes we should be paranoid when it seems to us that there is a movement that our membership for the old bump in the butt.

Congrats on ur peace. Nice to see a alliance that knows when to quit honestly and with dignity than some that cry momma I dont wanna play no more cause I cant have it my way amd they called me names and talked bad bout meafter I admitted I lost. Good luck interstellar people wish u the best rebuild

Well let's see... how many wars are there and whom has to peace who and how many more escalations ... maybe 2022 or 2023 after the coa and companies whinning stops ?

If people want a change of scenery we hop in a car book a flight or plant flowers in the yard. If u want to change dynamics of the current conflicts then stop posting spin doctor albums and cnn leaks and try being diplomatically responsible amd discuss what will bring peace and not act out and bring more or longer war

Could not have killed it cause it brought out ur inside anger and u keep talking so some good must be happening to keep ur interest to wine and cry .

And u r whom to say what one can say or not. The war continues just to remind u .. because ur side surrendered but tried to dictate the terms of negotiation after agreeing to surrender. Seems to me with this new escalation regardless of reasons for it will only delay the outcome for your side as now we are busy with new toys to play with.

ZzzzzZzzzzzZzzzzz ... long winded and incoherent

Probally cause other replies make no sense as well ... was just a attempt tlr to explain in basic what has happened. Anyhow back to sleeping lol

Both TS and kertog were given terms of there surrender and peace talks. After hearing and suspecting that TS was to be dealt with separately everyone on that side walked away. Yes they say they are trying to talk peace but they want to do it on their own terms apperently as the surrending side. They had the chance to stay in talks amd follow the process until they would know for sure if there was any validity to the logs they dumped. Until they come to terms that peace will not be given until they can accept the process they were given the people on their side will suffer through this long war. No one has the intent to make anyone delete or leave the game as no one has the right to force anyone to do that.

There r always rules in life but one common thing about them is people push the rules and push them to the point of breaking to gain advantage. Everyone pushes the limits and is not innocent. For example look at the game of golf. The rule committees for the tours and golf in general make rules on technical aspects on balls and the clubs. Players and companies that design amd make the products push them rules to limits and on occasion have pushed beyond the limits. Sure there are penalties but the point is on technical basis things get pushed and if one does not do it they get left behind. I am not saying breaking rules is a good thing but everyone does it and if one takes the high road and says no they have not well I will call bullshit. They game itself will not improve unless rules are tested and fixed. But regardless the technical aspect of this game is there and if u dont push the limits and work around to improve or keep up then u will be left behind. The way things are the game is the same for everyone and if u do not want to push them rules technically or morally then that is ur choice.

In my pocket hard and ready to crack

I think it has been mentioned a fee times ... kertog and ts are going to be dealt with on a separate basis with kertog I beleive going first. No one as well I beleive are currently saying ur not open to talks at the moment but if u remember do to sole circumstances such as ur side receiving logs and being paranoid things would not work out the way u guys wanted to u left the talks. As well the war has only been half a year so really saying half a year to come to or present terms is a bit much as u seem to be stating u expected the war to end when it started. Anyhow keep saying this stuff and I do see that Prefonteen is trying to lessen the posting and all maybe some others should follow suit. And see what happens.

Considering I received the same message I think we find it most funny that when coalition A says the other side is trolling them that they would send such mass messaging to troll us. I .ean is it a serious attempt to turn people against there own gov?

Mouthpieces? Seriously ... and your side wonders why no one wants to forge ahead when ur saying these things? Lol ..

Well when u use the word we it tends to put u in the pack. Refer back to ur post

Sure and things change.... AND WE HAVE A WINNER .... the word assumed ... never assume hence why ua all in this position

If u go back to the OP u will see that it was discussed that terms would be given over one by one and the process could take up to 30 days. As well coa was informed that the kertog part would be dealt with separately and once that was complete then TS would then be brought to the table.

Seems to me u were given logs by a butthurt person and u got steered in a direction that brought us here. Agian I just want to say people in private a d I am almost sure it happens on both sides tend to say things that just come to mind in reaction to stuff as a initial response. It is up to individuals on how the take or perceive them words. I understand ur hesitancy in talks but agian I think u just took the wrong road and it could of been used to give urself a more stronger position in the long run instead of having to sit here and let it drag out and out. Whem it comes down to it there is no blame on anyone. Ur side or ours. People do or say what they want depending on the moment.

Just out of curiosity how do u not know terms are not ready? Listen what is done is done. I personally beleive u jumped the gun. Which in hindsight is ur porgrative. Personally I would of let the rest of ur coalition agree. Then when it came ur turn then u would of found out the truth to ur suspicions. Suspicion is one thing that could of actually helped u. When it came to TS side of things I would of waited and negotiated with the end result that even though we cancelled r treaty u maybe should of asked for a nap for a period of say 6( or another time frame) months with NPO to make sure u can rebuild and so forth. Would of helped u two ways. First if denied then maybe u have a arguement here. If allowed that gave u a set time to use FA and propaganda to build urself up to be in a much stronger position than u r today. Just my thoughts.

Actually correct me if I am wrong ... did I not see in the original op something about ts talks would begin after the rest of ur coalition have agreed to terms. If so did someone not suggest later in this threa u should of let that go on and accept the first terms on condition that peace is settled with u ?

Is that not what a lot of people have been telling u .. that by posting this topic and dumping logs and so forth that u have not constructed a well thought out process in which to have peace talks revive and move on? And that maybe u should try a different approach?

Actually I seem to be repeating myself over and over answering in different ways to get one point across... but yet it seems the denseness is to thick.

Excuse me for reading his words as if he was part of ur coalition since he is defending you. And the sensitive skin was about ur coalition not him as I tried to emphasize.