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Do you remember around 13-14 months ago when all of the NPO/BK bots said this game was dead forever because they were leaving?


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34 minutes ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

That's what happens when you think everything is about you, and you think everyone wants you dead.

Let it also be said that it's what happens when chunks of the game go quiet and refuse to speak or deal with other chunks in a polisim.

NPO, and BK to a lesser extent, had a multi-year long run-up to their peak paranoia and bribing a thousand newbies into the game to "win." It involved silence on the forums, an inability or refusal to communicate with anyone outside of their chosen sphere, and a conscious effort to suppress and oppress their members and allies into the same behavior.

 

This is the message of paperless I've been preaching for so long: It's not only the fact that treaties cause dumb politics, but that they section off chunks of less active or less ambitious members of PnW into effectively never changing places - thus contributing to stagnation in FA.

The power players may make moves on rare occasion, but the spheres and their attachments remain the same because the only onus to honor or drop treaties is literally "do we like these people and do they make us feel safe/unsafe."

Treaties are a bad idea in a game designed for inter-alliance competition imo. The only good treaty is a protectorate for new alliances to help them get up and moving.

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19 hours ago, Charles Bolivar said:

2006 NPO would be admittedly great fun to recreate.

Assuming you play CN NPO is still a thing with a good setup there, great lads and all with strong leadership but kinda makes a point about CN alliances porting over though. But really it's not like recreating NPO over again here would be such a bad idea right?

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15 minutes ago, Crispy General said:

Assuming you play CN NPO is still a thing with a good setup there, great lads and all with strong leadership but kinda makes a point about CN alliances porting over though. But really it's not like recreating NPO over again here would be such a bad idea right?

Unpopular Opinion, I dont think it would be bad for Pacifica to come back.
On the other hand:
NPO doesn't want to come back to the game. (most of) Orbis likes they wont come back, and NPO is glad they arent in what they describe as a shitty game with horrible moderation.

Both "sides" are happy so its a win win for them both in reality. Orbis doesnt deal with NPO, and NPO doesnt deal with Orbis.

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6 hours ago, Crispy General said:

Assuming you play CN NPO is still a thing with a good setup there, great lads and all with strong leadership but kinda makes a point about CN alliances porting over though. But really it's not like recreating NPO over again here would be such a bad idea right?

The main issue is the NPO we had here was vastly different from NPO back in 2006. That being said, however, CN NPO when I last played CN in 2015 resembled more so the NPO we knew here than it did the classical NPO. 

You could argue that the version of NPO which we knew is the end result of events which took place back in August 2007 when there was a nearly a civil war in NPO due to alternate visions of leadership almost coming to blows.

Pixel history for the win 👍

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5 hours ago, Charles Bolivar said:

The main issue is the NPO we had here was vastly different from NPO back in 2006. That being said, however, CN NPO when I last played CN in 2015 resembled more so the NPO we knew here than it did the classical NPO. 

You could argue that the version of NPO which we knew is the end result of events which took place back in August 2007 when there was a nearly a civil war in NPO due to alternate visions of leadership almost coming to blows.

Pixel history for the win 👍

RIP Moldavi "Rebellion"

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23 hours ago, Prefonteen said:

Cheeky. Please make sure to incorporate certain secret agreements that didn't exist but then suddenly did in your elaboration on that implication.

This is why friend Partisan is friend.  He actually picks up on when I take veiled shots at him, where as some of these newer KT members assume I am taking shots at them, but are too dumb to realize that I have been making fun of WTF.

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13 hours ago, JadenStar10 said:

Unpopular Opinion, I dont think it would be bad for Pacifica to come back.
On the other hand:
NPO doesn't want to come back to the game. (most of) Orbis likes they wont come back, and NPO is glad they arent in what they describe as a shitty game with horrible moderation.

Both "sides" are happy so its a win win for them both in reality. Orbis doesnt deal with NPO, and NPO doesnt deal with Orbis.

NPO wasn't bad for the game but Roquentin's NPO was. A lot of former Vanguard effectively took over NPO's "brand" and they ran the same style of diplomacy they did in other games: Exclusionary, toxic, and exploitative (read: Cheating). The same group that was running multi rings in CN started running a scam in PnW in order to "win" this game. Again, read: cheat their way to chasing everyone else out of a nationsim which relies on multiplayer interaction.

The toxicity which Pacifica displayed basically put them into the "griefer" category in my mind - I would never willing play another nationsim with them in it, if I could help it.

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5 hours ago, Sweeeeet Ronny D said:

This is why friend Partisan is friend.  He actually picks up on when I take veiled shots at him, where as some of these newer KT members assume I am taking shots at them, but are too dumb to realize that I have been making fun of WTF.

I wouldn't have it any way, friend ronny.

One day I will join the whale road show. One day.

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