Morgan Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The thing about terrorism is that you can kill those who commit the acts, but you can never kill the idea that inspires them to commit violence against people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Von Dietrich Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The world in general and the western country in general must stop taking things easy. They must stop relying on the air strikes and start sending in the ground forces to stop those extremist ISIS once and for all. We have tolerated ISIS far too long. ISIS is truly idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dietrich Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 ISIS is truly idiotic. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSlop Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I'm from and live in Egypt. Perhaps this gives me the view from the other side of the fence, being plagued by the presence of a similar group here in Egypt, the Ansar Bait Al Maqdes group in the Sinai peninsula, which is even considered an arm of ISIS. Also, I personally know a few fundamentalists/extremists who have not turned violent, but I'm aware of their ideologies and have discussed with them on numerous occasions. I also come from a mixed culture/religion family, so I'm firmly routed in the Liberal camp. Primarily, this whole reviving of Jihadist ideals is based on finding a foreign enemy. In the absence of such an enemy, those movements dwindle and die. The trigger for this modern wave of Jihad dates back to 1948, the beginning of a formal Arab - Israeli conflict, so long as this conflict exists and escalates, there will be Jihadist waves, simply because the way the leaders of extremist groups portray the conflict as a religious, not a political one. They've reduced the struggle for Palestine into a dispute for the conversion of the Aqsa mosque into a Synagogue basically. The US and European stance on the matter has helped them concrete that image and portray it further into a Crusade by the West into the Middle East. What the world is fighting today is a group of zealots who believe they're fighting against a crusade, killing them off will not solve the problem, more will spawn. The common enemy those Jihadists are rallying against today, is US foreign policy in the Middle East, particularly the support for Israel and the occupation of Iraq, as well as the presence of US troops in the region. So long as those 3 issues remain unresolved, more people will rally to their cause. In Egypt, we've had minor conflicts between the extremist Muslims and the Christians. Both are to blame for this in my opinion. The Muslims are taking their frustration out on the Christian minority, while the Christians are always threatening going to international court and asking for US support and even invasion of Egypt over the smallest of matters. This whole atmosphere creates enmity between everyone involved. But, back to the main issue, ISIS, and before it Al Qaeda. So long as all the West and the US particularly do is military solutions, the problem will keep escalating and it will be prolonged into perpetuity. Other means must be sought, primarily a final resolution to the Palestine/Israel conflict. This means sanctions, on both sides, not just Palestine. Some semblance of global justice towards this particular issue must be made. For as long as the world sanctions the Palestinians for lobbing missiles, while it turns a blind eye to Israeli settlements (Which by the way go against all UN resolutions), more ISIS zealots will spawn, no matter how hard the forces of the coalition hit. Because they're basically addressing the symptom, not the disease. The symptom is terrorism, the disease is that the Arabs have lost hope of ever gaining anything legally so long as the US leads the globe politically, and as such, are resorting to tactics that most resemble vigilantes. This is a vigilante case on a major scale. Just some food for thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo-Nexus Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 The things they did were horrible I'm learning more about it now through this topic Quote Concilium Populusque Mandalórus ("The Council and the People of Mandalore") : Carter and me have nukes, and Saxplayer is just sassy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 The thing about terrorism is that you can kill those who commit the acts, but you can never kill the idea that inspires them to commit violence against people. This though. Although I do hope you're not saying that Islam is the reason that people do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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