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in4b Cyradis goes full-Casey.

There are reasons why I often preface things in this forum with "This has been suggested before" ...

Or you could just make it increasingly expensive for smaller nations. You have to bribe more important people to sneak into a smaller group, costs more. So someone could spy someone else with a handful less cities, but it might not be worth the cost.

This was suggested earlier as well, but make smaller nations harder to infiltrate by large ones. Think of it like it's easier to sneak into a larger crowd unnoticed versus sneaking into a small group. I think basing it off the number of cities you have is the way to go, Someone with 5 cities should have a hard time spying someone with 1-2, very hard time. 10 cities hard time with 5, and so forth.

I like the idea of giving incentive to winning. Made a suggestion a while back about you effectively tax their land by a percentage that decreases 1/5 each day after the war.

Would the same hold true for nukes? Could you take 1 missile and 1 nuke per day? If something like this were implimented I think it should be 2 missiles or maybe 3 missiles a day. 1 player can launch two missiles in a war in 1 day so taking 2 should be the bottom, nukes being separate could be 1.

If you want an IC style reason, well it's further from your capital and you've got to pay more to move resources/equipment to build. A 1-2 city nations takes a long time to get to 1000 infra, with 6 cities, I could get a city to 1000 infra in 1-2 days. Later on, probably half a day. So bigger nations can easily continually distance themselves from smaller nations. To adjust for the cities who've already benefitted from this, put the price jump starting at 9 cities which no one currently has, then start slowly back-implimenting it over time. month from now cities 2-4 are effected, 2 months 5-6, 3 months 7-8.

First city 0% Modifier on cost of Infra. Second city 10% Modifier on cost of Infra. Third city 20% Modifier on cost of Infra. Fourth city 30% Modifier on cost of Infra. ... Eleventh City 100% Modifier on cost of Infra. So each city is a little more expensive to build infra in, thus your capital should always have the most infra as it's cheapest to make. And by the time you've 11 cities it's still not that big a hindrance at double price. 10-1000 infra currently costs 2,291,093.18 Doubling that only makes it about 4.6M which is reasonable at the economy you should have at that stage. The modifier only effects the cost of infra in that city.

There's no benefit to winning a war against someone. Getting beiged helps the nation your fighting rather than hurting them. Having that result happen no matter what the result would make it almost impossible to cause damage during war without missiles, and those with missiles would then effectively ONLY use missiles.

Politics are fine, but alliance grandstanding, meh. Individual politics!

Oh right, he was EoS, but he did comment about you guys!

I was wondering what were peoples thoughts on what's happened in the last 32 hours and as the war progresses. What's surprised you, interested you, annoyed you? This thread isn't for alliance grandstanding or alliance politics, but thoughts and opinions on the individual scale and such doesn't reflect your alliances stance even if you run an alliance. I'll start. I'm never really surprised by individuals leaving an alliance mid-war, or asking for peace on an individual scale but when you consider the size of this war, number of people total, I'm surprised how many people have tried to get out of war or fled prior to the war they knew was coming. Though some of the politics attempts to paint this as a curb stomp, it's no on the numbers side of things, the side winning has less numbers but more preparedness. I suppose that shows you should always be prepared, and very few people were keeping a war chest of note unless they were caught prior to building an improvement or something of the sort. I was hoping for some people to dig in and really fight, small groups of UPN, VoC, or BoC banding together and being tough to take down but that has happened few and far between from what I've noticed, but to those who have been and are, well done and keep it up. I imagine most of the uppers who have missiles will just attempt to turtle and lob a missile a day, which could be hard to keep up for long, will be interesting to see how it goes. Biggest thing that annoyed me leading up to this war was seeing how VoC in particular handled its bank, giving large sums of money primarily to its leaders/top members. I imagine to get missiles, but this left their lower nations with a much smaller source of help aid wise. In the previous war there was a defector from VoC, Bernard (Or Berny as Scatheon liked to call him), whom told us VoC didn't care about any of their members, and that they were a means to feed their top nations with taxes, and when the members asked for war aid they got nothing. We also heard that from a few other sources as well, but watching it happen is fairly disgusting to me as another alliance leader. Alliances leaders exist to serve their members in my opinion, alliance members aren't something for leaders to use to pile up and stand atop of so they can serve their own needs.

Fun thing about history in places like this. it's written down while it happens, by who is involved as well as spectators, and doesn't leave. If we're around Orbis years from we will be able to look back and see these posts if one so wished and draw our own opinions on what happened. History isn't only written by the victors here, but also the losers and middle ground so act accordingly in victory and defeat. Everyone loses at some point, when that day comes for me, I hope I carry myself better than many of our current enemies of war have.

This issue is similar to the spy attack stuff. Damage to navy versus other unit types is off balance. 1 Ship should be on par with what it takes to kill 25-50 tanks, and 2000ish soldiers. So if a bombing run can kill 10 ships fairly easily, i should be able to kill 250-500 tanks easily, or 20000 soldiers. Now if bombing runs normally take out 2 or so ships, then the numbers become much more reasonable

Apparently some people have called me a liar, care to give proof of my lies? I remember most of the private conversations and I remember carefully choosing my wording. So please, provide logs where I've lied.

Looks like it damages infra correctly, not the bombing into target though.

So... Anyone from UPN or DEIC want to come on this weekend for the politics block?

That would be this one.

Thank you.

Not only was there no coalition involving Guardian, but we declined to join such a coalition when we were asked. The difference here, leading up to the war with TAC, not once did TC members come to me and ask about any Guardian involvement with a plot to take them down. They believed we were part of it, at least in possibility as they've been shown planning on how to deal with us should we enter that previous conflict, but not once did they ask me. Leading up to this conflict, I had TC members contacting me daily, more than one person each day just about about our possible involvement. What's the difference here? The first fight was a dogpile that your alliances were confident they'd win. This one is a more fair fight as the numbers show, but your leaders are fearful they might lose. So now TC preaches diplomacy when they perceive a disadvantage, but fail to use it when they had an advantage in the past.

Probably Bear fur. o/ Best TEst is war TEst.

They can't help themselves, gotta talk about what TEst is doing.

Do you really want us to hit your allies that badly?

BoC never took part in the fight against TAC over a month ago.

When TC went to war with TAC over a month ago, it was made clear TC would be willing to go to war with anyone who remotely opposed them, or even had conversations about doing such. Thus, I committed to co founding a group to stand up to this tyranny. Along with Rose (TAC at the time), Seven Kingdoms, and Terminus Est, we made an agreement to take down The Covenant and today begins its execution. With EoS's disbandment our group faced an interesting problem, do we continue with our plan or seek other options? We could have deviated from our plan, but what if these logs reached TC months from now? It could have been the same case as the TAC war, that TC would use obsolete logs to fight an aggressive war against us and our allies. And so we find ourselves, being proactive to eliminate a bloc who has made it clear by it's actions it will go to any lengths to attack any opposition. Guardian hereby declares war on Dutch East India Company and United Purple Nations, to fulfill the promise we made over a month ago, to stand up to tyranny.