Thalmor

I just typed a full response and accidentally exited out of the whole thing. I will type the full thing out later tonight. The ''2 votes win'' rule is still active, though, so A-V wins next turn. Do you guys want me to re-institute ''3 votes win'' or keep it as it is?

Thank you for pointing that out, I actually forgot to edit that.

Alarmed by the sudden presence of Skullcrushers just one mile south of Outer Petravillas, the King of Petravillas decides to go on the offensive. First, though, he wonders if it would be possible to add helicopters to the Army. He speaks it over with the more educated subjects, and spends plenty of funds on trying to buy up parts for helicopters from passing traders. This is made harder by the lack of an actual downed helicopter anywhere in the region. With no idea of where to start, the craftsmen and engineers get to work trying to build a helicopter from scratch. They actually do succeed, and a small, 2-seater helicopter is made. It's very basic, but does have room for a machine gun on it. Although due to the fact that it was taxing to make, Marshall Mayer orders it to only be used for scouting purposes. Marshall Mayer decides to attack the Skullcrusher position with full manpower and with all vehicles. The King of Petravillas also calls upon Apol to come help. Several hundred fighters, equipped with many machine guns and attacking from the north and east, flood the Skullcrusher encampments. Caught off guard, flanked, outgunned, and outnumbered, the Skullcrushers are quickly killed or routed. The causalities are as followed: Petravillas: 1 Killed, 7 wounded, 1 vehicles lightly damaged Iven-Petravillas: 2 Killed, 13 wounded Skullercrusher: 47 killed, 56 wounded Skullcrusher weapons and other supplies are looted. Because they fought together, relations between the Ivens and Petravillian grow even stronger. _____________________________________________________________ Petravillian colonists in Terras report that several firefights between them and Skullcrusher settlers have killed many colonists, they request reinforcements. The Amits have decided to establish their camps outside Terras, they have set up their home in the region. Petravillian colonists report that they are very friendly. The map has changed: Status: Food Rating: 55% / A fair amount of variety and a fair amount of it. Military Rating: 65% / A decent force. Stability: 55% / A lot of frustration over current issues. Technology Rating: 45% / Some progress has been made since The Fall. Infrastructure: 70% / Some work still needs to be done, but overall is fine. Economy: 75% / Trade is alright, and is expanding. Actions: A - Improve the food situation / Make it a general goal to increase the number of livestock and crops. B - Improve the military situation / Invest in a wider variety of equipment. C - Focus on internal reforms / Establish a court system. D - Put effort into improving technology / (Must wait one more turn before choosing this decision again.) E - Rebuild Infrastructure / Focus on maintaining outer roads. F - Manage the Economy / Address the current government budget. SPECIAL: I - Explore!: Send additional colonists to Terras. II - Diplomacy!: Dissolve the Iven Kingdom in Apol, putting the town and it's people back under direct control. III - Diplomacy!: Have the King of Petravillas proclaim himself as the rightful king of all Ivens IV - Explore!: Move part of the Royal Petravillas Army into Terras. V - Diplomacy!: Attempt to reach out to the Amits again. VI - Attack!: Besiege the city of Iven in an attempt to finally defeat the Skullcrushers.

The King of Petravillas decides that electing an official heir to the Petravillas Throne would lessen the risk of civil war come the time of his passing on. He decides that Charlie Mayer is a fitting choice. As he is also in charge of the military, it makes the chance of a civil war even less. Mayer accepts the decision, although does state that ''he is not politician.'' _____________________________________________________________ The Amits have bypassed the zombie horde and is moving towards Terras. The Skullcrushers have set up a position east of the mountains north of Iven. This has cut trade down dramatically and hurt stability. Map: Status: Food Rating: 55% / A fair amount of variety and a fair amount of it. Military Rating: 60% / A decent force. Stability: 45% / A lot of frustration over current issues. Technology Rating: 45% / Some progress has been made since The Fall. Infrastructure: 70% / Some work still needs to be done, but overall is fine. Economy: 65% / Trade is alright, and is expanding. Actions: A - Improve the food situation / Make it a general goal to increase the number of livestock and crops. B - Improve the military situation / Attempt to add helicopters to the army. C - Focus on internal reforms / Nominate a successor to the Throne. D - Put effort into improving technology / (Must wait two turns before choosing this decision again.) E - Rebuild Infrastructure / Focus on maintaining outer roads. F - Manage the Economy / Address the current government budget. SPECIAL: I - Explore!: Send additional colonists to Terras. II - Diplomacy!: Dissolve the Iven Kingdom in Apol, putting the town and it's people back under direct control. III - Diplomacy!: Have the King of Petravillas proclaim himself as the rightful king of all Ivens IV - Attack!: Assault the Skullcrusher position south of Outer Petravillas.

The endorsement of Medon Teliku still stands. MiEsca Pedsano sounds like he/she wants to start a war. LeZejerold Park actually does sound decent, though, I will admit. Although because Rekishstein is powered by nuclear energy, it makes me wonder what he/she will do to advance the environment. I fear he/she will support radical ideas that will be harmful in the end.

C has won, I will add the next turn in later this evening. I don't know if y'all saw it earlier, but I said that if anybody has any questions about the lore that hasn't been specified, feel free to ask.

Not picking a special is fine and will be recognized. E and 1 wins this turn. _____________________________________________________________ The King of Petravillas puts craftsmen and other carpenters to work fixing outer roads and even a few of the country ones. It isn't particularly expensive. The improved trade quickly made up the different anyways. The King of Petravillas makes an announcement and requests adventurers for the colonization of Terras. Most of those who volunteer are people who have already went and their respective spouses. They take plenty of supplies with them, and they head to Terras. _____________________________________________________________ There have been no changes in the map. Status: Food Rating: 60% / A fair amount of variety and plenty of it. Military Rating: 60% / A decent force. Stability: 50% / A lot of frustration over current issues. Technology Rating: 45% / Some progress has been made since The Fall. Infrastructure: 70% / Some work still needs to be done, but overall is fine. Economy: 85% / Trade is decent, and is expanding. Actions: A - Improve the food situation / Make it a general goal to increase the number of livestock and crops. B - Improve the military situation / Attempt to add helicopters to the army. C - Focus on internal reforms / Nominate a successor to the Throne. D - Put effort into improving technology / (Must wait three turns before choosing this decision again.) E - Rebuild Infrastructure / Focus on maintaining outer roads. F - Manage the Economy / Address the current government budget. SPECIAL: I - Explore!: Send additional colonists to Terras. II - Diplomacy!: Dissolve the Iven Kingdom in Apol, putting the town and it's people back under direct control. III - Diplomacy!: Have the King of Petravillas proclaim himself as the rightful king of all Ivens

The endorsement of Medon Teliku still stands. Ayy Elemayo of The LMAO Party needs to take a lesson in economics. It's always good to have about 2% unemployment as to keep an economy flexible. DeNoloki Peas of the Conquering Party is a coward because he skipped out on national military service. Max Peas of the Peace Party sounds like a one-issue party, so forget about that.

The King of Petravillas decides to would be a useful idea to add machine guns and even possibly rocket launchers onto the vehicles. The extra firepower would certainly open up extra tactical options. After speaking to the Marshall, and then to the craftsman, the King of Petravillas takes a moderate amount from the treasury and invests in metals and larger caliber ammunition. The craftsman come up with their own explosives. Eventually, after some time, heavy weapons are added onto the trucks and even some of the cars. Ammunition isn't exact plentiful, but the new addition to the R.P.A. is useful. The soldiers are elated. The King of Petravillas decides to publicly challenge the King of North Iven's claim over Apol. Poorer, weaker, and greatly disliked, the King of North Iven is forced to retract his declaration. The King of Petravillas is now even more popular among the ethnic Ivens. _____________________________________________________________ There have been no changes in the map. Status: Food Rating: 60% / A fair amount of variety and plenty of it. Military Rating: 60% / A decent force. Stability: 50% / A lot of frustration over current issues. Technology Rating: 45% / Some progress has been made since The Fall. Infrastructure: 60% / Some work still needs to be done, but overall is fine. Economy: 80% / Trade is decent, and is expanding. Actions: A - Improve the food situation / Make it a general goal to increase the number of livestock and crops. B - Improve the military situation / Attempt to add helicopters to the army. C - Focus on internal reforms / Nominate a successor to the Throne. D - Put effort into improving technology / (Must wait four turns before choosing this decision again.) E - Rebuild Infrastructure / Focus on maintaining outer roads. F - Manage the Economy / Address the current government budget. SPECIAL: I - Explore!: Send colonists to Terras. II - Diplomacy!: Dissolve the Iven Kingdom in Apol, putting the town and it's people back under direct control. III - Diplomacy!: Have the King of Petravillas proclaim himself as the rightful king of all Ivens.

''...until it can't be sustained any more.'' Can you please elaborate on that? I don't see how a system as simple as ''you give me X for Y'' will become unsustainable. I suppose we're at an ideological stonewall then. I just don't see anything wrong with someone working for other person voluntarily. I mean, it's only natural for humans to form hierarchies and for people to rule over another. I mean, I see where you're coming from, I think. I just don't see an issue that need fixing. At least, not fixing now. The employees do two different things. First, they ''work up'' patients by going in, seeing the initial issues, and then they leave a chart for my mother to see. The second thing the employees do is organize the charts by the information given by the patients and by what treatment my mother prescribes for them. We have to organize everything the way we do to both provide the best care, and to meet state and federal standards. With my mother's employees helping, we wouldn't be able to do that. We'd go out of business, and then suddenly, hundreds of people in lose quality healthcare. But hey, at least the worker's aren't exploited, right? By the way, those two comics are extremely biased and really don't paint the issue fairly. The first comic is literally ''Capitalism is bad, communism good! And the second one portrays all employer's as greedy and arrogant. Thank you for clearing that up. For some reason, I had trouble following and thus deciphering the quote. Capitalism is a simple idea, though. ''You give me X for Y.'' Gravity can be observed. Evolution is backed up by fossils. Yet, again, I bring up the fact that you yourself said that true communism hasn't been practiced. So, where's the supporting evidence?

The biggest issue I see with this, though, is how will you convince seven billion people - particularly in Europe and North America - to adopt a system that would dramatically change society and their daily lives? Change is scary to people, especially in regards to how they, well, live their daily life; their routine if you will. How will you convince all the governments of the world to dissolve? Although, I will be honest here. My opposition to what you're saying comes less from ideology and more from pragmatist. I suppose I can see this happening once technology gets to the point where physical labor on behalf of humans is no longer necessary. However, until then, I'm very skeptical. The employees of the world are not exploited, though. Employment is a voluntary agreement between two people: the employee and the employer. The employee gives his labor, and in exchange, receives a wage. I know this firsthand because my mother owns a clinic and for the half-decade she's been open she's had dozens of employees. All of them were paid above minimum wage and were treated nicely, they weren't taken advantage of, and they chose to be there. The claim that the rich individuals of the world don't do any work is absurd. The kings of history had the duty of running the state, and the C.E.O.'s of the world have the responsibility to make sure their company runs smoothly. My mother, for instance, has to make sure the bills are paid and that the employees don't act up. Don't they all work with their hands? No, but that doesn't meant they don't work. See, here's the issue, though: To Karl Marx himself, his proposition was a theory; it's never been done before. You stated yourself that ''true'' Communism has never existed. Marx doesn't know what he says in the above quoted paragraph is true. The arguments you are providing for you ''side'' are simply that: theories. There's nothing for sure known about them.

A society without a government just isn't possible. It's natural for people to form social spheres and to attempt to control other people. Trying to form what is, by the way you're putting in, an anarchist society, is difficult because how will you stop the thieves without a police force? How will you prosecute and go after crime? How will said society make sure everyone does the work necessary to preserve modern society as we know it? How will science progress? I mean, will scientists do their work diligently and for the greater good of mankind out of their own kindness? If you can achieve what you describe and at the same time keep the peace, then good for you. However, it just doesn't seem possible because of all the variables. I was defending capitalism, not Laissez-faire. I can understand some regulation in the market and some forms of welfare. Heck, I generally view myself as leaning conservative and I can get behind a single-payer healthcare system; assuming it's done right and carefully. So how are you going to change it, then? For the reasons I pointed out above, it just seems like it would be easier to accept the current system and to make the best out of it yourself than to commit to the promotion of an ideology that has had it's name smeared in more blood than a feminine hygiene product has.

When it comes to military (or really any kind of) technology, the general rule is that the cooler it looks, the worse it performs. Japan's robot will look like something out of Pacific Rim, and the United State's robot will look like an autonomous junkyard. After the match, Japan's robot will be an actual junkyard, and America's robot will be getting all the hot robot babes.

You can rant and rave all you want about capitalism, but In every application of communism that has occurred throughout the 20th century you see the same thing - which is to say, massive loss of civil rights and massive rates of death; caused by political purges or dramatic economic hardship. Simply looking at it per capita, capitalist nations enjoy higher qualities of life. Look at this these well-fed, wealthy, free Soviets!

Let it be known that King Thalmor of The Evenstar officially endorses Medon Teliku of the Conservative Party of Rekishstein for the office of Chief Executive of Rekishstein. Like, seriously, Teliku gave a reasonable campaign. He/She made a decent case for himself/herself whereas Anra Key was basically ''HURR DURR POWER TO THE MUH PEOPLE LUL''

Books not already held in the collection of the schools or private libraries are rounded up and cataloged. Trade is focused on buying books, and some people even take an initiative to write their own. These are shared between a national, government-funded library and the various schools. People continue to learn more and more about the world around them and how to use it. An expedition by the Royal Petravillas Army into Terras takes place. They report back, confirming a moderate zombie presence and the presence of both unaligned marauders and Skullcrusher settlers. It is also reported that a lot of goods, specifically plenty of weapons and metals, are available for looting. _____________________________________________________________ The Amits and the zombies have stopped fighting, although the zombie horde remains in place south of their encampments. Carefully, the Amit traders go out and scout the region, establishing relations with Petravillas and Iven-Petravillas Apol. The Skullcrushers killed the Amit representatives whenever they met them. The King of North Iven declares Apol to be rightful North Iven land, and demands that the King of Apol submits. The King of Apol scoffs it off, and the North Iven people slowly start to migrate over to Apol as complaints against the King of North Iven grows. The North Iven identity is slowly fading. There have been no changes in the map. Status: Food Rating: 60% / A fair amount of variety and plenty of it. Military Rating: 50% / A decent force. Stability: 50% / A lot of frustration over current issues. Technology Rating: 45% / Some progress has been made since The Fall. Infrastructure: 60% / Some work still needs to be done, but overall is fine. Economy: 80% / Trade is decent, and is expanding. Actions: A - Improve the food situation / Make it a general goal to increase the number of livestock and crops. B - Improve the military situation / Attempt to add mounted weapons onto vehicles. C - Focus on internal reforms / Nominate a successor to the Throne. D - Put effort into improving technology / (Must wait five turns before choosing this decision again.) E - Rebuild Infrastructure / Focus on maintaining outer roads. F - Manage the Economy / Address the current government budget. SPECIAL: I - Explore!: Send colonists to Terras. II - Diplomacy!: Dissolve the Iven Kingdom in Apol, putting the town and it's people back under direct control. III - Diplomacy!: Denounce the King of North Iven's claim to Apol _________________________ If anybody has any questions about anything in the canon not specified, go ahead and ask and I'll answer all questions when next turn starts.

Well, let's just see what the future may hold, shall we?

Corporatocracy! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy

680

A few older factories on the outskirts of Petravillas are scanned over and reviewed by many of the more educated subjects. Through diligent work, they manage to get some of the machines repaired. Despite being old, the plant actually has an emergency generator to run the machines. Despite the expensive cost, fuel is bought up from passing traders, and the machines get put online. However, the cost needed to buy materials to use is to expensive to start any form mass production. Still, tests are run and the machines are observed. Over time, replicas of the same processes used are made and the effect is similar. Although the machines of the factory themselves may not be worth much at the moment, the builders and craftsman of the Kingdom make it for it: Basic machines have been built and are put to work doing more intermediate tasks. The King of Petravillas gives the Ivens their wish. The ethnic Ivens elect their own King, and Apol is made a client state under Petravillas. The ethnic Ivens are very appreciative, and over time, more and more of them move to Apol, upholding a decisive loyalty to the King of Petravillas. However, many of the soldiers who fought in the recent Battle of Apol are angered by the giving of the land to another people. The Marshall, Charlie Mayer, quickly silences them. The North Iven thugs also try to bully the Ivens within Apol. Feeling united and with a land of their own, the Ivens imprison, banish, and even kill the troublemakers. The King of North Iven is angered by the establishment of a second Iven nation, even though they're really still a part of Petravillas. The native population of Apol is treated well by the Ivens, and slowly start to be absorbed by Iven culture. _____________________________________________________________ The battle between the Amits and the zombies have started to cool off, now the battle is a distant skirmish. The map has been updated: Status: Food Rating: 60% / A fair amount of variety and plenty of it. Military Rating: 50% / A decent force. Stability: 50% / A lot of frustration over current issues. Technology Rating: 40% / Some progress has been made since The Fall. Infrastructure: 60% / Some work still needs to be done, but overall is fine. Economy: 80% / Trade is decent, and is expanding. Actions: A - Improve the food situation / Make it a general goal to increase the number of livestock and crops. B - Improve the military situation / Attempt to add mounted weapons onto vehicles. C - Focus on internal reforms / Nominate a successor to the Throne. D - Put effort into improving technology / Start a national book collecting program. E - Rebuild Infrastructure / Focus on maintaining outer roads. F - Manage the Economy / Address the current government budget. SPECIAL: I - Explore!: Send a small expedition to Terras to scout out the area. II - Diplomacy!: Dissolve the Iven Kingdom in Apol, putting the town and it's people back under direct control.

Let's count the human right's violations that this ''glorious'' revolution brought! That's torture, so that makes one. It said also be noted that it says on your nations factbook that ''Torture has been abolished and prisoners are treated with dignity.'' So basically, that statement is a lie. This actually isn't surprising, though. Governments lie, especially communist governments. Okay, that sounds like slavery. That's two human right's violations. That's the death penalty, so that's three violations. This is assuming he was given a fair trial, but given the history of Communism and fair trials, it's safe to assume that he wasn't. That 4 human right's violations in total. Good job Arkez! ''We just killed all the land owners and business executives, now our economy will flourish!''

Deciding that the recent addition of Apol to the Kingdom was a good enough reason to begin trying to establish a fully-fledged government, the King of Petravillas expands his court. Paper is created, reused, and bought, and records are kept. Honorary titles are created for citizens, and a basic government is established. The King of Petravillas send the King of North Iven a letter about the thugs. The King of North Iven feigns innocence, and implies that he doesn't care and actually appreciates their work, stating that it's only normal for ethnic groups to want to be united. A few days after this exchange, the North Iven thugs get even more aggressive with their intimidation tactics. Speaking of ethnic Ivens, many of those who fought for Apol are wishing to have a home there. They've requested that they and their families be allowed to go to Apol and to settle there, and that Apol becomes a client state under Petravillas. _____________________________________________________________ There have been no change in the map. A patch of disease has run rampant through both crops and livestock alike. Status: Food Rating: 60% / A fair amount of variety and plenty of it. Military Rating: 50% / A decent force. Stability: 50% / A lot of frustration over current issues. Technology Rating: 30% / Little progress has been made since The Fall. Infrastructure: 60% / Most areas are alright to travel in. Economy: 75% / Trade is decent, and is expanding. Actions: A - Improve the food situation / Make it a general goal to increase the number of livestock and crops. B - Improve the military situation / Attempt to add mounted weapons onto vehicles. C - Focus on internal reforms / Nominate a successor to the Throne. D - Put effort into improving technology / Attempt to repair old factories. E - Rebuild Infrastructure / Focus on maintaining outer roads. F - Manage the Economy / Address the current government budget. SPECIAL: I - Explore!: Send a small expedition to Terras to scout out the area. II - Order!: Use the Royal Petravillas Army to quell North Iven thugs. III - Diplomacy!: Grant the Ivens their wish and give them Apol, setting them up as a client state. IV - Diplomacy!: Attempt to negotiate between North Iven thugs and the King of North Iven.

Rampage is a member of Rose, so Rose sponsors terrorism confirmed?

The King of Petravillas speaks with the older and the more educated subjects. A school is established out of what use to be an old book store. Both young and old alike come to learn more about history, math, the sciences, and proper English. Over time, more and more people go home and tinker with various items and share ideas. This leads to a few more machines being created. These machines are then in turn used to make various tasks easier and they're traded with. Unfortunately, some people have started to call for democracy. The fortifications around Apol are repaired. It did cost some money and resources, though. _____________________________________________________________ The zombies and the Amits continue to battle it out. It does appear as if the Amits are gaining the upper hand, however. The Skullcrushers seem content to keep to themselves for right now. Looters returning from Terras report Skullcrusher settlers in the area, but due to the number of wandering zombies and bandits within the town, it's safe to assume that the town will remain neutral ground for right now. The North Iven thugs have started up their antics again. Although not nearly as bad as it was, it has still become an issue again. There have been no changes in the map. Status: Food Rating: 75% / A fair amount of variety and a lot of it. Military Rating: 50% / A decent force. Stability: 55% / The people are content. Technology Rating: 30% / Little progress has been made since The Fall. Infrastructure: 60% / Most areas are alright to travel in. Economy: 70% / Trade is decent, and is expanding. Actions: A - Improve the food situation / Make it a general goal to increase the number of livestock and crops. B - Improve the military situation / Attempt to add mounted weapons onto vehicles. C - Focus on internal reforms / Try to add structure and organization to the government. D - Put effort into improving technology / Attempt to repair old factories. E - Rebuild Infrastructure / Focus on maintaining outer roads. F - Manage the Economy / Address the current government budget. SPECIAL: I - Explore!: Send a small expedition to Terras to scout out the area. II - Diplomacy!: Speak to the King of North Iven over the recent ethnic issues. III - Order!: Use the Royal Petravillas Army to quell North Iven thugs.

Everyone's allowed to vote. The only restriction is that you can only vote once between turns for obvious reasons.