seabasstion

The frequency that rl obligations large enough to demand a change in game activity aligning with wars and political gaffs by that nation is simply astounding

That's way too many "ha"s you did. 1 is silly. 2 is light hearted. 3 is legitimately funny. 4 is downright mean.

eesh you would think someone that was interested in taking vassals wouldnt be so quick to complain that they are being received in a mean way. play the part - have fun with it. no sense quitting at the first thing that doesn't go your way

is it out of the question for vassals to have a vote for avansies leadership? i say we revote!

What is this

so its malev im now suppose to send my bi-daily defecation pictures?

so what happens if one of your vassals takes vassalage of another state?

Pursuant to powerprittglue policy 1 and the avanses war section 4 vassal agreement here is the pm inspection of sebasstion. As no govt members of the leader state were available the record is posted in the public domain under addendum 1 of policy 1 http://i.imgur.com/I5iCfCF.jpg

In compliance with the vassalage agreement category war section 4 the vassal nation of powerprittglue is disclosing a new military preparedness policy to their leader state. Policy 1) inspection to the cleanliness of their leader's (seabasstion) rectal walls post defecation by way of finger swabs is now mandatory. Should the inspection fail by the presence of fecal matter on either the index or middle finger (whichever is longest), a punishment of 2 spies are to be decommissioned daily until proper hygiene is observed. The nation of powerprittglue asks that the leader state of avanses be present during these inspections which routinely take place 530am est and 6pm est daily.

Guys I'm a vassal of avanses don't attack me

this is an excellent thread by a lordaeron government member only few days after their DOE

take note everyone - this is how you properly handle a raid against a 30 day old nation

this one time i took a poop and when i went to wipe it was already clean

https://politicsandwar.com/api/nation/id=43735 the api shows this nation is 46 years inactive

go get em hoss

What makes you think I hate you? You've never given me a reason to.

this is too edgy for me

next time i run an alliance ill look towards alpha on how to do it properly. have a good one

you can call me all the names you wish but in my eyes the members of sparta are in a much better place now. my allegiance and responsibility has always been to them. part of that responsibility is recognizing that i am not the correct and best leader for them (nor was jim beam), and that being under a 'sparta' badge is not a necessity. i killed the name 'sparta' - i didn't kill the alliance as a whole. a lot of us are actually closer now than ever. i was a cofounder of sparta and stayed there every day until the merger. i have no idea why you keep thinking i was part of guardian during this but i urge you to give listening a chance and begin to accept that people arent lying to you at every opportunity. if you really need proof though, just look at my bank records. alliance ID 1861 was sparta. i only went around a month without bank access. the drill was end of april, i had bank access again by may 31st again, im not sure where you are getting guardian from and im not sure why you are trying to convince me that i went there after the drill. or why it even matters if i did. if you choose to interpret my actions which were solely rooted in making sparta better as a direct or indirect threat to alpha you are free to that opinion. if that makes me incompetent and short-sighted than perhaps that leads credence to my argument that leadership was bad under sparta and would be better served with another person at the helm. one of the best traits i have is knowing when and where my skills are deficient and im cavalier enough to do something about it. would it have been better for sparta if we plowed ahead under poor leadership? retaining all the disorganization, lackluster members, and band aid fixes? or would it be better if sparta cleaned house, reorganized, and got a new CEO? you are choosing to view sparta fixing itself as an indirect threat to alpha? i think a bigger threat would be to remain the wet paper tiger that we always were. if it makes me a bad guy by valuing the wellbeing of spartan members more than alphans than i am a bad guy. i never pretended to be the 'good guy' here. im the guy that made a hard and difficult choice for a failing alliance. i slept perfectly fine that night.

no, i never left sparta until the merger. again not sure where you got guardian from. also when you say "I now believe that Seabass was an independent actor who wanted to weaken Alpha's allies" i hope you can notice the plural form of ally that you wrote. when you pluralize something it implies more than one. so beyond sparta, which i guess is technically ally of alphas that i tried to 'weaken' (something i had admitted in my first post on this subject), which other allies of alphas did i intend to hurt? this isn't a complicated subject and im not sure what you are looking for or what the point of all of this is... just because the outcome of a situation doesn't favor you and your alliance does not serve as evidence to a big conspiracy against you. in the event it's not clear yet - i'm not looking for credit on the alpha destruction as it was never my intent. you are absolutely correct when you say i dont deserve credit for it i suppose i dont really care either way. if you want me to be the mr magoo of the alpha destruction to help you cope ill be happy to take one for the team. i dont really care what my label is. just let me know what you eventually settle on so i can update my diary accordingly

I actually never left Sparta. Not sure where you got guardian from. Also you can't say I had deliberate intent to weaken alpha and their allies while simultaneously saying there was no conscious genius to it. If you're going to continually point to this as the event that served as the catalyst for your destruction; say that I was purposefully doing it to hurt alpha (see also : narcissistic paranoid crazy talk ) then I should rightfully get the global manipulator title. If my goal was really was to hurt you guys and this directly led to your destruction - well that's a pretty big feather in my cap. Unfortunately for me my intentions were exactly as I stated earlier. I care very little for fa and thought very little of alpha pre, mid, and post drill. I'm not trying to persuade you, mind you. Just if you really are going to attribute the drill solely of my design to destroying a sphere with intent to do so, you need to go all the way and claim me to be the biggest puppet master in the game. Thanks!

Well if you really want to give little ol me credit for masterminding the demise of nearly half the game well shucks I guess I'll take it

Like a hand in my pants, it's probably Jim beam

to shed new light on this issue - everything pre said is correct. i originally wanted to keep 'the drill' in house only but it spread to allies (alpha) via SRD and jaguar pretty much in an instant. I didn't want to cancel the drill immediately after it started as it wouldnt provide any good data while my credibility would have largely been lost nonetheless. so i decided to pivot the situation and let it take it's natural chaos (with some carefully controlled nudges of my own) until the very end. i was confident i could hit the emergency brake in time so i let some spartans step up and take a big role in the war that wasn't going to happen. there were quite a few surprises by our guys. the only ulterior motive i had, which may be a surprise to some, was to disrupt the trust spartan members had in its leaders and to be more open towards a merger idea. there were 4 leaders, vosunda, jim, myself, and jaguar. to try and get jim on board i wanted him to feel isolated in a way. make him fully shoulder the burden of running an alliance; a feeling which i was hoping would pave the way towards us merging (since i had no desire to lead anymore at this point and i knew he did not want to solo it either) first and foremost though i needed jim to be on board with a merger as well since i'm pretty much his butt buddy at this point (he has a password protected folder of my pics on his blackberry). there was a large amount of near schizophrenic behavior he had to tolerate from me several months before this. the groundwork was well laid out that i was 'off my rocker' at this point. this 'drill' served as a catalyst for jaguar leaving. i suggested a small drill (not nearly of this magnitude) several weeks before and he was vehemently against it. i suspected he was starting to wander his eyes other places and thought this would be the nudge he needed to leave the alliance. it was after a bit and we were down to 3 vosunda was a slightly different story. i knew he wanted to 'do something' in the game so i decided to give him a massive case of blue balls during this. after about 24 hours i told him that this was actually a drill. womp womp womp what a bummer. however, after more talking i was able to steer the conversation along the lines to 'how funny would it be if we just attacked test anyway'. so there was a plan within a plan where we were going to actually attack test. just him and i knew (ok - so i guess 2 people knew...but he also thought we were going to war so in effect - it wasnt a drill for him either) i never had intentions to do actually war test, but in his eyes it was a foregone conclusion because a random number generator told me to (that is another fun story during this as part of my madness) he loved the idea of pulling this big game move. so when it was quickly taken away it was another big bummer man. conversations with him after that were basically along the lines 'i dont think we will ever go to war, im going to be leaving the alliance soon blah blah blah'. he left quickly after that then it was just jim beam and me. i had already stepped down from the drill so it was just beam. hoffa (another guy that loves silicone in his rear end) was one of the ones that stepped up during this drill and took a gov role. this served as enough to keep sparta together until we got crushed by bk leaving us all wet and ready for teh blood god's thorny donger. was this manipulative? extremely - but it was completely of my own doing. it wasn't designed to hurt sparta's allies. it was designed to destroy sparta itself. i had 2 goals. 1) i wanted to merge/join test. sparta was a failing attempt to emulate them. largely because of issues surrounding my 2nd goal (mostly of my doing) 2) we were infested with people looking to just whale it up and reap the benefits of our econ program without ever wanting to actually test their might. i didn't know how extensive this infestation was, but i knew it was there. i didn't want to bring shit members over to test so this is what i came up with. i got blinded by nation score and compromised on too many attributes i realized were paramount to a good alliance theres probably better ways to accomplish what i was seeking to do, but it was fun to do. i think i gave something like 300m+ in repayment when it was all said and done (a time when that was still a sizeable amount). if anyone asked for refunds i gave it out of my own pocket. a large volume of this went to alpha i believe, but im not sure what they did with it. this is where the details start to evade me. it didn't accomplish everything i wanted with the drill itself but it went a long way towards achieving what was ultimately a mission accomplished. quite a few 'spartans' fled to pantheon and gpa. the nations that were pretty more or less inactive when we needed them were farmed and not brought along. in the aftermath of the BK war debacle i could tell jim was ready to let go of this spartan dream so i pushed my alien green merger !@#$ stomach deep into him and finally got it done, and took a small vacation to go whaling sparta, as a whole, was a disaster. we were weak, unorganized, and had poor leadership. not because of competency , rather time constraints. so i cut the fat and introduced enough chaos into the alliance that anyone left standing should be a good fit for the alliance we were hoping to be all along (test). the only thing we were good at was friendship with each other. that has largely persisted this entire time to reaffirm - yes - nobody knew i was doing this. SRD directly left because of this. i believe jaguar did as well a few days later and morcant bulk went to alpha. there may have been another couple notable people that left but hey - thats the cost of doing business i guess. i was sad to see them leave as the personal relationships was the only thing i really wanted to preserve from sparta. the only thing i would change is i would have saved up a larger volume of my poop before mailing it to jim's house. after i saw a 3 liter bottle of faygo at the dollar store an overwhelming sense of regret flooded my heart

If it was unclear I was talking about 3 people . You know...The three people you spoke about when you said And yes I know what a vote means. If the alliance really did vote on this issue than it would have been impacted by people that quit a game after a two week war....who just so happen to have irl stuff coincidentally pop up. So I'll say it again...Perhaps you shouldn't leave decisions to people that will quit a multiyear game after a two week war.