His Holy Decagon

With the current score system in place, and the inevitability of beiges going to (most likely) the defending party of a blitz, is there no concern that the sheer exponential increase in infra lost, will make gaps in parties wider than we’ve seen before? If my normal strategy is to zero and sit on someone till they expire, now they will be forced to eat a beige, and most likely from someone else. That’s quite a lot of infra/score reduction. I’m quite “worried” that this will make longevity of wars even shorter than our current “round 1” wars.

The date? July 23, 2021. The setting? Discord, obviously, lol. The participants? Rebel, Basebond, Fabian, Decagon, Keegoz, Lefty, Cassia, Kev, Dream, Kung. (Sorry if I forgot anyone) The situation? Most people are pretty laid back. Most people are being directed to me, Decagon. (Deposits, etc, lol.) The light backstory? .... The remnants of Error 404, and Children of The Light came together in one of the more successful merges in recent times. This merge resulted in Cataclysm and soon there after, the formation of the Clock bloc. We made a mutual agreement and spent roughly 1-2 weeks after arguing over potential alliance names, themes, gov structure, you name it! It was the first time that many of us had ever spoken to our counterparts in E404/CoTL, and alas, to some peoples surprise, there was quite a bit of tension. Not too surprising when I look and think back to it all. CATA formed that day, and I can't express how grateful for this ride. It's been a tale of ups and downs across many different environments, whether it be MA, Econ, just having my first interactions in the FA world, etc. CATA is truly something special to me, and I hope that all of our members, from the low tiers who are raiding, to the department heads alike, feel that CATA is something we've all had a large part in building! We've seen many Members, Low Gov, High Gov's and Leaders come and go, and it was due to their participation as well as the ones currently holding the reins, that CATA is proud to announce our first of (hopefully) many Anniversaries! We celebrate our one year anniversary, and are having a casual, laidback, and fun filled day today! Want to join in on some of the fun? Here's some of the events that we're hosting today; we hope to see you all there! (If you aren't in CATA and want to join in on HOI4 or Warzone, just ping/ask someone in our main public channel, or in our community channel! We have many people that join us for these games from many alliances, so don't feel shy!) There are games of HOI4 going on at this very moment by the way, so please ask how to join, feel free to watch, etc! There are maybe 12+ people already there!

Good luck to ya'll

Funniest part is that it takes moderation to prevent/address slot filling, and not the notion of it being scummy, frowned upon, and mocked by a majority of the community.

All but the Baseball cap, yeah, go ahead

Just use Locutus? It gives much, much more info

I guess it’d have been better if we *actually* did this, like the two of ya’ll who are fighting? Or would we have been mocked? Please do tell us the boundaries that we have to adhere to. It’s sad that you can’t take a joke, and I imagine everyone figured someone would make a meme MDP like this. The most ironic part? That the only two blocs that did this recently, are fighting each other, now.

Irony, passive aggressive; whatever you want to call it, mate.

"The Time is Up Agreement" (In HW or Celestial and get scared for a moment, when you saw this go up? Lol.) Preamble: In the interest of peace and mutual understanding, the two parties of Clock and Backroom enter into this agreement. Recognizing that at this time there is no Casus Belli between the two parties and as such in an effort to avoid a needless and causeless war, the two parties agree to enter into a mutual agreement of demilitarization. Article 1: The two parties, effective of the update of today, June 29, 2022, in game time will not militarize beyond what's a rational MMR. Article 2: Not dictating what c10's and lower can do, for real, Jesus. Article 3: During this period of demilitarization in the face of the current ongoing global conflict, the parties pledge to come to the aid of the other if one party comes under the attack of a sphere that is already militarized. Article 4: This agreement will expire once the current spheres already engaged in hostility have rebuilt and returned to a standard peacetime MMR. What do I type here that also sounds sort of pathetic? Signed, Clock, on behalf of Test, all Protectorates, and all Extensions of those associated, CATA Co-Leader: HisHolyDecagon Co-Leader: TigerFire 2iC/Foreign Affairs: Keegoz Foreign Affairs: Cadn,Codename Eclipse Co-Leader: Vein Co-Leader: Patrick Aurora First Explorer: Kan0601 First Explorer: ToxicPepper Second Explorer: Alex Chairman of FA: Xi Jinping Chairman of MA: Jacob Knox Weeb General Secretary: Empiur 2iC/Head of FA: Taiga The Commonwealth Prime Minister: RightHonorable Chief of Staff: Lionstar, Jeric Chancellor of the Exchequer: Christian Dahl Minister of FA: KillzBob Home Secretary: Dillon I Foreign Secretary: Azazel Deputy Foreign Secretary: SwedenBall The Wei Regent: Boris Underground Regent: (The Definitive) James Flying General: Penpiko Flying General: Canter Carthago Suffet: Daveth Elder: Krampus Bourbon Street Councilmen: Kiloist, Hannah Deputy Councilman: Mutedfaith Chairmen of Public Relations: Arln Nen, Aero Chairman of Security: The Ringer Chairman of Finances: Galerion Chairman of Marketing: Fulcrum The Residents of Bourbon Street Legion Imperator: Istandor Consul of Economic Affairs: kiwilliam Consul of Foreign Affairs: David Ben-Gurion Consul of Internal Affairs: Nome Consul of Military Affairs: Micheal Lybrand Global Alliance & Treaty Organization Assembly Chairman- Jgoods45 Vice Assembly Chairman - KittenGosCrazy Minister of Foreign Affairs- Clancy The General Assembly

Ah glad to hear it; that 3m extra a day that maybe 5 people made should definitely help level the playing field, am I right or what

Could we perhaps uh, maybe at least know what the changes to baseball are?

Kev - I used to have a massive lack of understanding for what Kev does, but over the last year or two, I’ve more and more realized that he’s a world shaper, beyond what most people are actually capable of pulling off. The amount of focus he’s able to pull and gather is pretty impressive and I’d go as far as to say that there isn’t anyone else who can match that style of FA. Thalmor - Thalmoria was the first radio show that I actually made an earnest attempt at listening, and, it was obvious that when Thalmor hosts a show, that people will come and listen. He seemingly tried/tries to provide a relatively unbiased opening opinion on things, and I always respected that a lot. And also, who can forget the Subway Girl stories. WANA - As a newer player (I joined Sep of 2020; just prior to Duck Hunt), I always had a shadowy and backhanded opinion of Syndicate, and with that said, WANA. I always viewed them as the shady, back alley, “we’re playing the game how we want, and we don’t care how it’s perceived” style of play, and I always was intrigued by it. WANA tanked a lot of community attention, and basically seemed to embrace it. I’d say from my side of the PnW world, he was almost personified as a villain of sorts, to which I can’t think of many others who fit that mold. Keegoz - I believe Keegoz was my first shoulder to shoulder experience with real FA. Being part of decision making, brain storming, and seeing the inner workings of high level FA truly gives me a strong impression that Keegoz is on a higher level than most. I feel that I’ve learnt a lot just by exposure alone, and really can’t imagine that CATA, or Clock for that matter would be in anywhere near the same enjoyable position that we’re in now, if Keegoz wasn’t in the picture.

Glad to see it

With the HollyRo$e MDP treaty as a deterrent, I simply don't understand how this could've happened. It was supposed to scare low infra nukers away, post war, not invite them to hit even more high infra targets; come on CoA, DoN't YoU gEt It?

Alliance Categories: Best Fighters: Cataclysm Worst Fighters: OWR Most Surprising Entry: UL/HIVE Best PR: Cataclysm Worst PR: GATO Playmaker (In other words, who had the largest impact): Cataclysm Most Improved: Carthago? Failed to Meet Expectations: N/A Best DoW: https://forum.politicsandwar.com/index.php?/topic/33158-dow-your-time-is-up/ Best Blitz: Backroom (specifically against Cataclysm) Worst Blitz: N/A Player Categories: Best Fighter: Keynesian Most Friendly: HannaH Most Salty: Check image attached Best Rookie (for those who popped their war cherry): Best Troll: Check image attached Best eLawyer: Daveth (why not) Community Categories: Best Post: Check image attached Funniest Post: Check image attached Saltiest Post: Check image attached Best Propaganda: Check image attached Please note that HW STILL not demilitarized to their agreed upon 1350 MMR; before you mention Circus raids, that stuff ended 2 weeks ago!

Yeah, coming from the guy that's mad that his signature isn't on the peace treaty; it's definitely true and accurate. GATO is democratic. I'm going to take a wild leap of faith and say that he was against the vote. Majority rules in a democracy, but it sucks in basically every other way possible.

If you're wondering what this ^ is; it's what I was personally given, to use as signatures for GATO.

Colors were a thing that we (Clock) wanted to improve upon. AKA, the mentioned alliances are just agreeing to work together, post war, on improving the color bonus in a mutual fashion

For times sake, I'm going to keep this short and sweet. The Clock bloc, and The Backrooms have agreed to Peace! (Officially on 6-11-2022, at DC; "TERMS" 1. The Backrooms admits defeat. 2a. Eclipse, GATO, and Weebunism mutually agree to work together in the best interest of improving Brown. 2b. CATA, and CTO mutually agree to work together in the best interest of improving Olive. 3. There will be no NAP; - No new wars will be permitted to be declared after today's DC. - Current wars will be permitted to finish naturally. - Current wars will be permitted to expire. - Current wars will be permitted to be peaced out. (Any of those 3 options are up to the participants of their own war) Peace has been discussed, acknowledged, and agreed upon by the following bodies and their respective members: (*Art courtesy of Minesome) Clock, on behalf of Test, all Protectorates, and all Extensions of those associated, CATA Co-Leader: HisHolyDecagon Co-Leader: TigerFire 2iC/Foreign Affairs: Keegoz Foreign Affairs: Cadn,Codename Eclipse Co-Leader: Vein Co-Leader: Patrick Aurora First Explorer: Kan0601 First Explorer: ToxicPepper Second Explorer: Alex Chairman of FA: Xi Jinping Chairman of MA: Jacob Knox Weeb General Secretary: Empiur 2iC/Head of FA: Anri (*Art courtesy of Pika) The Backrooms, on behalf of all Protectorates, and all Extensions of those associated, The Commonwealth Prime Minister: RightHonorable Chief of Staff: Lionstar, Jeric Chancellor of the Exchequer: Christian Dahl First Lord of the Admiralty: Pericles Home Secretary: Dillon I Foreign Secretary: Azazel Deputy Foreign Secretary: SwedenBall The Wei Regent: Boris Underground Regent: (The Definitive) James Flying General: Penpiko Flying General: Canter Carthago Suffet: Daveth Elder: Krampus Bourbon Street Councilmen: Kiloist, Hannah Deputy Councilman: Mutedfaith Chairmen of Public Relations: Arln Nen, Aero Chairman of Security: The Ringer Chairman of Finances: Galerion Chairman of Marketing: Fulcrum The Residents of Bourbon Street Legion Imperator: Istandor Consul of Economic Affairs: kiwilliam Consul of Foreign Affairs: David Ben-Gurion Consul of Internal Affairs: Nome Consul of Military Affairs: Micheal Lybrand Global Alliance & Treaty Organization Assembly Chairman- Jgoods45 Vice Assembly Chairman - KittenGosCrazy Minister of Foreign Affairs- Clancy The General Assembly

Yep, that’s basically how things are supposed to work. I’ll forgive you this time. So, we should probably remove war, blitzing, market trading, etc? I mean, those all involve a level of time, and it wouldn’t be fair to those who can’t invest as much as others. Again, this baseball “problem” literally generates on average, maybe around 3m a day, with the exception of perhaps 3-5 people that go wild. (I’m only here to argue with whoever I can find btw) I agree with the guy above btw; if we’re able to see who is apparently exploiting this to an insane degree, just uh, take action against them, and not use this as a way to kill Baseball. No one here will deny that Pre has hard the biggest hate boner for Baseball for the longest time. Just punish the 3-5 people that are making it such a big and important issue to bring community attention to.

Sort of wild to say that people, and by “people”, I mean maybe… what, 1-7 try hard/sweats are making a whopping potential 8m a day, and we’re wanting to adjust an entire mechanic in the game? Just because others “aren’t”, doesn’t mean that it’s some abuse or exploit across the board. It’s literally, 8m a day at most, and I’m going to assume this is the most extreme example that’s able to be found. 8m a day lol; watch out guys, 8m a day, you know, less than what a c7 raider makes in one raid. And to play advocate, @Who Me I’m sure you’re far from crystal clean hands in this scenario. Certainly if you didn’t play hundreds, if not thousands of games a day through *whatever* means you’re doing it, this wouldn’t even be a topic.

Where are the comments where people are complaining about baseball? I’ve never really seen any actual person bring up baseball of all things, as an issue. I think raising “issues” because a few people go wild, is almost a form of gaslighting, meanwhile I never see a single soul complain. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but who is actually complaining? (Also, I literally just maxed my team/stadium and have had a lot of fun delving into this little baseball sub-community; really unsure what the big whoop is.)

Again, I’ve said it a few times, others have said it as well; there’s no one in Clock that “feels betrayed”, and I’m not sure why literally just discussing events, somehow is interpreted as anything other than a discussion. Not sure if we’re going to pretend that WANA was somehow mislead by Keegoz, but “if/when”, when there’s another log saying something like “we have to be able to have plausible deniability” sure don’t sound like some self unawareness. But hey, I guess this is literally what “plausible deniability” would look like, right? We didn’t do anything… because… there was a deal that was brokered? Why is it hard for people to recognize we aren’t complaining lol. You can force someone through many ways besides being direct. BW getting cold feet, hours before our agreed upon blitz, leaving Clock basically high and dry to deal with MysOasis, and apparently leaking the agreed hit that Clock would make on Rose, which in hindsight meant we’d potentially get blitzed doesn’t sound like some type of forcing to you? Mate, come on. There’s a point where you have to admit that BW’s FA style is always centered around word play and being shady. Being an ally to them now, doesn’t mean you have to pretend the past doesn’t exist.

Being forced doesn’t mean it had to be something quite literal. Being forced could be something such as backing out of an agreed plan, hours before, putting pressure on us, for instance. I don’t think we denied ever wanting to fight Rose, nor did we ever ask for help doing it. “Expanding”, doesn’t read the same as “Help us do the thing we’re planning on doing anyway”. MysOasis formed, we had plans with BW, and hours before the blitz, someone got cold feet, “forcing” us in a truly typical manner. Who gets cold feet 2-3 hours before a blitz when they agreed to go in with another bloc, and is only okay with it upon the confirmation that Clock will take care of Rose for them? Yeah, it ain’t Clock.

Still, no one has given me a logical response to how bringing in more high infra targets, deters low infra nations from chaining. The plausible net damage in that situation, IMO, seems to almost entice pirates, raiders, and chaining.